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Offline skunkyfunk

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Big fish in the RP, small fish in the USA
« on: December 08, 2006, 11:33:33 PM »
I just wonder why all these great rock bands in the country suddenly become faces in the crowd when they go to the US to pursue a musical career?  Maybe a few have flousrished, but they hardly can achieve the popularity they have here.

Take Lokomotiv for instance.  I would call them ROCK GODS in the local scene since I love both Wolfgang and Razorback.  But when they went to LA, it seemed like they were practically unmarketable.  Same goes for the people like Juan Miguel Salvador who tried his luck with Rage in the '80s in the US but came home empty-handed. 

Damn I think Lokomotiv deserves much more recognition in the US.

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Re: Big fish in the RP, small fish in the USA
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2006, 12:37:07 AM »
What about Leah Salonga ?  :-D

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Re: Big fish in the RP, small fish in the USA
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2006, 01:29:14 AM »
Even artists from Canada like The Tea Party or from the UK like Texas (yes, *that* popular band in the UK) have a very limited dedicated fanbase.  This can only be deeply comprehended when one sets foot in the US.  There's a dearth of bands and the competition is very fierce.  If you go to these artist showcases like South by Southwest in Austin every spring or the CMJ Music Festival in New York in October, these cities will have a string of clubs booked back-to-back with bands vying for your loyalty and hopefully would eventually land the ever-elusive major label support.  Ah, and here's one reason why some deserving Pinoy bands don't have the success they deserve.  I hadn't seen any of them give it a shot to participate in these showcases so that some A&R from some label could sign them.

The geographic scope is also very challenging for any touring musician.  They'll need an awful lot of capital to cover a land mass that encompasses three time zones.  That's why bands like Lokomotiv tend to only keep their coverage within the California area and the odd gig in Chicago or New York.  These bands usually have to cough up the money from their own pockets to cover the expenses of their tour.   Even bands from the UK embarking on their first US tour seem intimidated by the country's size.  To them, slogging it out trekking from North Wales to London can be done within the span of a week or so.  That can't be true out here.

Another thing I noticed about most Pinoy-type bands is that they seem to put their ethnicity first and their identity as a musician second.  Death Angel, The Pixies, and Versus are examples of bands that made the music do the talking.  They only happened to be Pinoys (or have Pinoy band members).  I think it's a turn-off for some listeners to deal with identity politics before having to listen to their music.

Aside from that, the average American's "leisure money" also competes with books, films, video games, or even starting their very own band, thus leaving even less time and money to follow another musician's career.
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Re: Big fish in the RP, small fish in the USA
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2006, 01:37:41 PM »
What about Leah Salonga ?  :-D

Hmmm let's ask her bro Gerard, he's somewhere on this board :)
And it's Lea, not Leah.
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Re: Big fish in the RP, small fish in the USA
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2006, 01:39:13 PM »
Damn I think Lokomotiv deserves much more recognition in the US.

It's all about the Business - not even chops. They need good representation.

Maybe they should look up Apl de Ap of the BEP for a leg up.

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Re: Big fish in the RP, small fish in the USA
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2006, 12:56:15 AM »
Ain't the band Moonpools & Caterpillars pinoys too? except the vox of course....
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Re: Big fish in the RP, small fish in the USA
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2006, 02:34:28 AM »
Ain't the band Moonpools & Caterpillars pinoys too? except the vox of course....

tlga? d ko lam un ah..

thanks 4 d info :)
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Re: Big fish in the RP, small fish in the USA
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2006, 04:12:22 PM »
dude, sabi rin lang sa akin, not too sure eh, di na ako makahanap ng album nila eh.... pero yun ang sabi sabi nung mga barkada kong bands dati. dunno if it's really true though. kaya nga patanong ako diba?  :-D
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Re: Big fish in the RP, small fish in the USA
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2006, 04:35:41 PM »
What about Leah Salonga ?  :-D

Hmmm let's ask her bro Gerard, he's somewhere on this board :)
And it's Lea, not Leah.


ooopsss sorry lea pala ehehe, meant she's a big fish in the US... hit na hit siya dun sa mga theatro diba ? saka may napanood ako sa hallmark channel nagulat ako isang US movie andun si lea salonga ... di ko lang alam kung anong title at diba nag vo voice over siya sa ibang walt disney cartoons ?

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Re: Big fish in the RP, small fish in the USA
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2006, 01:41:17 AM »
Ain't the band Moonpools & Caterpillars pinoys too? except the vox of course....

3/4 of the band is pinoy, yup.

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Re: Big fish in the RP, small fish in the USA
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2006, 10:24:21 AM »
Its very hard to break into the mainstream music scene in the US. Not just for Filipino-American bands but for everyone.

Americans aren't really biased towards music. They will listen to you as long as you got talent.

There are some Pinoys who made it though. That guy with the Black Eyed Peas. They even have a Pinoy song on their album. Theres also that Pinoy guitar player with Switchfoot. He is Pinoy and proud of it.  :-D

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Re: Big fish in the RP, small fish in the USA
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2006, 12:55:42 PM »
Nice pic of Andrew Cunanan. Whats the point???