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Offline chuck sabbath

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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2007, 09:44:24 AM »
@alkemi and x_taxi: binibigay sa akin ang *.avi file na edited na at may dialog na tapos ini import ko 'to sa cubase tapos dun na lahat ng music at sfx. so basta naka sync lang sa video yung sfx at music, oks na kami. kung may edit sila sa video later on sila na bahala mag adjust sa music or sfx. low budget/short deadline, alam mo na...so is smpte useful/necessary in this scenario?

ahm nalilito pa nga ako, maybe i do some reading/research first

hindi ako nag score ng porno no :x? ako na nga actor, ako pa din music?? :roll:
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« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2007, 09:52:12 AM »
@alkemi and x_taxi: binibigay sa akin ang *.avi file na edited na at may dialog na tapos ini import ko 'to sa cubase tapos dun na lahat ng music at sfx. so basta naka sync lang sa video yung sfx at music, oks na kami. kung may edit sila sa video later on sila na bahala mag adjust sa music or sfx. low budget/short deadline, alam mo na...so is smpte useful/necessary in this scenario?

If I may, no, di na kailangan smpte dito. Your client will do the final edits pala. smpte will be important later on siguro when you start doing full length movies or videos.

hindi ako nag score ng porno no :x? ako na nga actor, ako pa din music?? :roll:

 :-D So kelan lalabas ang "chuck_sabbath scandal"?  :lol: ma-google nga!
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« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2007, 10:14:11 AM »
@alkemi and x_taxi: binibigay sa akin ang *.avi file na edited na at may dialog na tapos ini import ko 'to sa cubase tapos dun na lahat ng music at sfx. so basta naka sync lang sa video yung sfx at music, oks na kami. kung may edit sila sa video later on sila na bahala mag adjust sa music or sfx. low budget/short deadline, alam mo na...so is smpte useful/necessary in this scenario?

ahm nalilito pa nga ako, maybe i do some reading/research first

hindi ako nag score ng porno no :x? ako na nga actor, ako pa din music?? :roll:

eh lumampas na pala sa smpte ang alam mo.. non linear systema kana.. da best nayan at mas mabilis at yan na ang bagong systema. Tama si sir KITc, ang video editing na mag problema nang iba mong cue kung nagbago pa sila ng edit.. sa audio kalang bahala naman.

so penge kopya ng scandal mo ha

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« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2007, 10:20:55 AM »
@alkemi and x_taxi: binibigay sa akin ang *.avi file na edited na at may dialog na tapos ini import ko 'to sa cubase tapos dun na lahat ng music at sfx. so basta naka sync lang sa video yung sfx at music, oks na kami. kung may edit sila sa video later on sila na bahala mag adjust sa music or sfx. low budget/short deadline, alam mo na...so is smpte useful/necessary in this scenario?

kung avi and you'll use it sa cubase, then no need for smpte.

furthermore, kung may edit pa, it's better if you'll do the adjusting - or at least be there at the final cut.  no such thing as a "locked film" here kasi.  it's only locked at final distribution, whether broadcast or dvd.  so it's either you trust the editor or he ends up makin you look stupid pag di sync'ed properly, or if the levels aint right.

did some softcore porn-ish scoring myself.  ikaw kaya yun?  haha.  perfect drum n bass dun!  pambayo!  haha!

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« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2007, 04:38:28 PM »
trivia: sir mike p is or was a member of the"real" smpte club sa america
         tama po ba sir mike? 
         kaya dati twing nag stripe ako smpte naalala ko kayo, elementary ako     nun..hehehe .. ika nga ni sir KITc oops nagkakaalaman na.  SArap sa forum you get to hide your age.


Am still an active full voting member, as an International member.  You mean when you were in the elementary, member na ako?  Tagal na pala nuon.

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« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2007, 04:47:55 PM »
Are there really folks who vote for what time code should be the "standard"?

Gosh!  :lol:


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« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2007, 04:49:37 PM »
Am still an active full voting member, as an International member.  You mean when you were in the elementary, member na ako?  Tagal na pala nuon.

Regards

sir roughly, that was 20 yrs ago..whew.. i was part of pedero music at nasabi po ni hector na you were a member ng smpte na mahilo hilo kami at that time and we were doing a film score from hongkong at sabi namin buti nalang may smpte!
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by the way, npj is doing a personal project po samin so talgang napakasaya ko na may reunion kami.

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« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2007, 05:50:12 PM »
Are there really folks who vote for what time code should be the "standard"?

SMPTE and other forms of time code such as MTC, word clock, 'black-burst', etc. have been around longer than we probably have a right to question as which should be standards. SMPTE, for ex., stands for Society of Motion Pictures and Television Engineers, so it really is a group of engineers from 2 different entertainment groups, film and TV. They saw a need for standardized timing because film is 24 or 25 frames per second (fps), video is 29.97 fps, while audio is typically at 30 fps - try to sync that!

Each discipline developed it's own timing system. The 30 fps standard was derived from early black and white TV and since audio was synced to that, it kinda took. The advent of color TV saw the need to put in timing references that would be sort of adaptable to the B&W technology at the time so (to make a long story short) the 29.97 fps standard emerged. Film has always been at 24 fps (US) or 25 fps (EU). And then there's Japan, but let's not go there for now.

The 2 disciplines of film and TV had a clash of sorts when it became uhh... time to transfer movies to television. The difference in frame rates meant you can't do a frame-for-frame transfer. Since audio was also embedded in the movie's frames, that meant audio would be distorted in the transfer as well. Not only that, audio was often recorded to a separate tape recorder while filming a movie. The resulting frame rate difference would mean that audio would slowly lag behind the video as the movie progresses - kinda like those pirated dvds.

To make a long story short, everyone just got together and decided that in order for everything to line up, they had to come up with a common timing reference, hence SMPTE was born. Tsaka na natin pagusapan ang MTC and LTC and black burst, ha?
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« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2007, 08:43:58 PM »
SMPTE is an organization of people and companies involved in TV or film industries that decides on policies regarding motion picture and TV standards and other issues regarding the industry, much like what AES does to audio and NAB for broadcast.  The SMPTE time code is, like what KitC had explained, the answer for standardization of synch'ing audio to video, video to video, etc.  It is just one of the agreed standards institutionalized by the organization.  Others include color, motion picture theater specs and others.  The THX spec in reality is somewhat similar to SMPTE's.  SMPTE preceded THX.  The organization has been in existence ever since the advent of film and TV, so it is an old body.

Do they really vote on things like the code, for instance?  Yes.  All members are made to study the standards being proposed through the org's journal and cast their yes or no votes regarding it.

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