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Offline acdsee

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question about sound system....
« on: November 14, 2007, 10:14:38 PM »
good day....tanong ko lang ano pa kulang sa set-up namin para mas gumanda at maging competetive na ang aming sound system ...may mga puede pa bang idagdag bukod sa usual na set-up...o kaya baguhin o palitan para mas maganda tunog. baka kasi may mga kulang pa kami na kailangan pala para mas gumanda tunog. help po mga sir.

here's our set-up:

behringer 24 channel mixer
crossover
compressor limiter
2 eq's
alesis midiverb 4 vocal efx
5 power amps
4 sub zero speakers
4 jbl dual 15 mid hi speakers
6 stage monitors speakers
16x4 proco snake cable
pearl drumset with zildjian cymbals
samson drum mics
shure and wharfedale mics
guitar, bass and keyboards amps
smoke machine
8 par64
follow spot

pano mas gaganda tunog especially sa tugtugan na may banda?  kailangan pa ba ng regulated power supply? may gadget pa ba ginagamit pare gumanda tunog ng drums? do i need D.i. box for bass, guitar and kbords o puede mics na lang....?
suggestions po............tnx


Offline edtech

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Re: question about sound system....
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2007, 09:57:01 AM »
isang magaling na sound tech kailangan nyo hehehe.... syempre pag may sira yung iba kailngan nyo rin ng tech at nandito lang ako hehehe..... base sa experience ko ok na yug mga set up nyo... basta may mixer, equalizer at effects ok na ang tunong depende na lang talaga sa tumutugtog at set up...

Offline BALDO

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Re: question about sound system....
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2007, 05:16:05 PM »
ano yung 8 par 64?? di ba bulb yun? hmmm nakakaganda ba ng tunog yun? JK o padagdag pogi points ng sound tech?  :-D :-D :-D
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Offline Tarkuz Toccata

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Re: question about sound system....
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2007, 05:47:56 PM »
24 channel mixer -- ok
crossover -- ok
compressor limiter -- ok
2 eq's -- ano specs? isa para sa FOH + isa lang para sa floor monitors?
alesis midiverb 4 vocal efx -- ok
5 power amps -- specs? isa sa mid/hi + isa sa subs + tatlo sa monitors?
4 sub zero speakers -- specs?
4 jbl dual 15 mid hi speakers - specs?
6 stage monitors speakers -- specs?
16x4 proco snake cable -- ok
pearl drumset with zildjian cymbals -- ok
samson drum mics -- ok
shure and wharfedale mics -- shure sa vocals at wharfedale sa instrument amps?
guitar, bass and keyboards amps -- ok

kung may balanced (low Z) line out ang bass amp at keyboard/acoustic amps, hindi na kailangan ng D.I. box.

kailangan pa ng mini mic stands (preferably with boom arm) para sa guitar amp mics.

yung EQ para sa FOH, okey na kahit dual 15-band (2/3-octave) lang.

yung EQ para sa floor monitors, dapat 31-band (1/3-octave).


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Offline bhenard

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Re: question about sound system....
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2007, 07:18:47 AM »
Nandyan pala si sir Tarkuz....ok yan

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Offline smarty

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Re: question about sound system....
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2007, 01:20:13 PM »
sir tarkuz, size ng venue tulad nung mga barangay gym sa makati, mga ilang watts kaya requirement para sa loudspeakers?

me ratio ba na kailangan para sa FOH againts monitors?

thanks


Offline Tarkuz Toccata

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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2007, 02:46:39 PM »
size ng venue tulad nung mga barangay gym sa makati, mga ilang watts kaya requirement para sa loudspeakers?
outdoor?
length x width?
estimated venue capacity (seats)?
loudspeaker's horizontal angle of coverage?
sensitivity rating of loudspeaker?

me ratio ba na kailangan para sa FOH againts monitors?
FOH to monitors, wala.
mid/hi to sub, meron.
The common saying that the ears are the ultimate judge in music production? To some extent they certainly are, but as we are now aware, they can also be fooled extremely easily. -- "How The Ear Works" (2011) by Emmanuel Deruty

Offline smarty

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Re: question about sound system....
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2007, 05:10:34 PM »
outdoor = nope (indoor)
length x width = about 30m x 45m
estimated venue capacity (seats) = the venue is the size of a basketball court, with about six rows of seats on three sides and a stage infront. about 3 to 4 thousand i guess if full capacity.
loudspeaker's horizontal angle of coverage =  specs ng jrx125 sir
sensitivity rating of loudspeaker = specs ng jrx125 sir

mga ilang pares ng speakers ang recommended?

thanks



Offline Tarkuz Toccata

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Re: question about sound system....
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2007, 08:03:00 PM »
outdoor = nope (indoor)
length x width = about 30m x 45m
estimated venue capacity (seats) = the venue is the size of a basketball court, with about six rows of seats on three sides and a stage infront. about 3 to 4 thousand i guess if full capacity.
loudspeaker's horizontal angle of coverage =  specs ng jrx125 sir
sensitivity rating of loudspeaker = specs ng jrx125 sir

mga ilang pares ng speakers ang recommended?

i wanted to assume that the people in this 30m x 45m area were comfortably seated. at the minimum space for each person given by most local fire codes, you arrive at the estimated venue capacity of approximately 1620 seats only.

with two pairs of jrx125 (2 per side) and total power of 4000 watts (2000 watts per side), the system can achieve 92 decibels at a distance 35.52 meters away on axis outdoor.

i tended to be conservative in my estimations as far as coverage capacity. i did not allow for a dance floor. you could certainly provide louder sound for the same number of audience indoor. if the user can't obtain quality performance with this system in that size venue, i would have to fault the person driving, not the "vehicle" itself. however, there is a 10-decibel window here that can allow a skilled system operator to obtain good performance in even larger venues, but because many venues can go beyond the typical rectangular room, it is very difficult to place a fixed figure as to the maximum capacity that can be covered with good results. with that said, i hope that you find this information helpful.

« Last Edit: November 19, 2007, 08:24:43 PM by Tarkuz Toccata »
The common saying that the ears are the ultimate judge in music production? To some extent they certainly are, but as we are now aware, they can also be fooled extremely easily. -- "How The Ear Works" (2011) by Emmanuel Deruty