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Offline lucy_monostone

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« on: January 16, 2006, 11:56:48 PM »
dudes meron bang shop para sa pag shine ng mga crash, hihats at rides?? nag iiba na kase ung kulay ng cymbals ko, gusto ko yung itsuang brandnew ulit katulad sa ilalim.. mag kano kaya ang pa shine incase meron??



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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2006, 06:00:36 AM »
Whats your recommended cleaner for Cymbals? Ang alam ko kasi nakakanipis ng metal yung metal polish.. Ano po ba maganda? Ok po ba yung WD-40? Suggest naman jan mga dudes!  8)
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2006, 08:56:28 AM »
oily masyado ang wd-40 tapos may amoy pa. go nilagang cymbals dude...masarap yun

eto ingredients:

- plangana na kasya yung pinakamalaki mong cymbal
- mainit na tubig pero hindi kumukulo ha
- baking soda na mabibili sa inyong suking tindahan

bili ka ng baking soda sa grocery tapos pakulo ka ng tubig. opkors yung tubig mo dapat malulubog mo yung cymbal. tapos usually isang dakot na baking soda ang ihahalo ko dun sa tubig habang mainit. konting halo. tapos lipat mo yung hot water sa plangana. ilagay mo yung cymbal mo sa tubig for 5 minutes. di mo kailangan galawin, yaan mo lang sya magswimming. tapos alisin mo sa tubig at punusan mo ng dry cotton cloth. just dont expect it to be shiny like after applying metal polish.

i've first known about this watching the food network, italian chefs use baking soda/hot water combo to clean pots and pans. then i read about using it on cymbals from pinoydrums.

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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2006, 11:58:48 AM »
ah~ pagtapos "ilaga", immetal polish pa ba???

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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2006, 12:45:12 PM »
depende kung brilliant finish yung cymbals. pero kung traditional finish, no need to polish since hindi rin naman sya kikintab na parang salamin.

if you still want to use metal polish, look for non-abrasive ones. one good example is flitz metal polish. i use it on my cymbals but i order it abroad


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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2006, 05:42:43 PM »
teka, di ko alam kung ano yung brilliant at traditional finish eh~ pati pala, ang gusto ko kase bumalik yung orignal na kulay nito without those darkening green-like stains caused by sticks and dust..  mattanggal din yun pag nag laga ako ng cymbals???

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2006, 06:19:30 PM »
di na matatanggal yung stains na yun. signs of corrosion at nagpenetrate na sila sa finish nung cymbal. pwedeng malessen ng cleaning pero di totally na maalis. the green stains are called patina.

how to distinguish brilliant from traditional? i guess the best explanation is to give examples : yung K zildjian traditional finish yun while yung A Customs brilliant. get mo po yung idea?

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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2006, 07:16:50 PM »
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Whats your recommended cleaner for Cymbals?

Pro-Mark Groove Juice cymbal cleaner!

P520 only. Available at AUDIOPHILE stores.
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2006, 07:56:15 PM »
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Whats your recommended cleaner for Cymbals?

Pro-Mark Groove Juice cymbal cleaner!

P520 only. Available at AUDIOPHILE stores.


wow mukhang masarap yan ahh !? eehehehe, gagaling ba ako mag drums kapag uminom ako nyan.. joke ! ey sir tarkuz ? kaw po yung nagrecommend sakin na pumunta sa audiophile cubao para humingi ng 64bit driver pra sa TASCAM US224 ? dun ka ba sir nag ta trabaho ? actually nagpunt na ako dun kaso wala ako dala CD... ehehe nakausap ko yung medyo macho na lalake na balbas sarado.. kaw ba yun ?

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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2006, 10:33:48 PM »
hindi ako yun. sa main office ako.
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2006, 01:45:22 PM »
groove juice o kaya ung sa lazer cymbal cleaner
good for brilliant and traditional

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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2006, 03:46:53 AM »
Zildjian cymbal cleaner mas malaki na ngayon compared dun sa luma na maliit ang mahal..

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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2006, 05:15:00 PM »
Thanks po sa mga replies. :oops:

Mukang masarap yung nilagang cymbals nga ni sir peeves ah. Masubukan nga minsan.  :lol:
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2006, 11:27:45 PM »
There is a cymbal cleaner exclusively for ziljian cymbals
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2006, 03:52:36 AM »
Mga utol, share nyo dito kung paano nyo inaalagaan ang cymbals nyo para tumagal sa inyo.
Yung sakin ang ginagawa ko pagkatapos gamitin ilalagay ko kagad sa cymbal bag tapos naka plastic sila bawat isa. Masama ba yung ganun? Tnx.
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2006, 07:05:41 AM »
sipag mo naman  :D nahihiya akong paluin ang malinis na cymbal e kaya hinahayaan ko lang dumumi sila. naka setup lang sa kit, punas ng dry basahan once a month (kung sinipag ako)

i polish them only during new year's day and then let them rot again till next year  :lol:

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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2006, 09:36:28 AM »
xmpre, cleaning... meron thread dito about cleaning cymbals using diff. methods.. "nilagang cymbals" ika nga! tapos gamitan mo cymbal cleaner weder trad or brilliant finish yan.. aun.. wipe out moistures dahil magcause ng tarnish.. nu nga ulet tawag dun sa nagiging kulay green na dumi? hehe.. wag mong gamitan ng abrasive metal polish kundi sa katagalan, ninipis yan.. masisigra ung groove.. tska avoid metal contact between the hole of the cymbal and ung pinagsusuksukan niya sa cymbal stand (dont know the term.. sowee) to avoid keyholes..

hope it helps!

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2006, 02:23:00 PM »
^^The green thing is called patina. It's supposed to make your cymbals sound warmer. I don't mind having it or not.

Ako, I never clean my cymbals.  La lang, tamad (hehe). If ever, tuyong basahan or slightly basang basahan ang ginagamit ko. No solvents except water, if ever.  I tried Groove juice, pero if you read closely, it's made for brass, not bronze.  I tried them on my A's dati, at naging dusky yung color at parang camouflage yung itsura. I've stopped using it on cymbals... it's great for hardware though.

Pag nasa cymbal bag, I make sure na walang metal-to-metal contact between 2 cymbals. Like now, I usually have 2 or 3 cymbals in one pocket ng bag... I'll have one cymbal (or yung in-between kapag 3 sila) wrapped in a t-shirt.  I don't do this with the hats though, kasi same size lang sila... they fit together snugly and won't slide or create that much friction compared to differenly-sized cymbals.

Plus, I don't put the bag down na nakatayo... always nakahiga. If I commute with my cymbals and I have to sit down (like sa jeep), I put the cymbals somewhere on my shoes where it wouldnt hurt (like yung sobrang space sa may toes).  Other than that, I just put it on my lap.

And... like legnacilyz said... no metal to metal contact sa stand.  Mortal sin of cymbal care yan.

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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2006, 03:21:45 PM »
Nakigamit ako ng Zildjian cleaner 2 months ago, ok naman ang naging resulta.

Nakapasok sa pillowcase ang bawat cymbal ko sa bag para walang friction, iwas sa moisture, at saka cushion na rin.
Ok lang para sakin ang nakatayo ang cymbal bag, basta hindi tutumba.

At saka sa gig, magdala ka ng electrical tape. Ok din siya bilang temporary felt or tubing sa stands. Huwag mo lang kapalan kasi baka ma-choke ang cymbal mo.

Oo, ingatan mo ang cymbal mo sa stand. Yung kupal na drummer na nanghihiram sakin ng cymbal lagi dati, nakita na nga niyang nawala ang felt sa ilalim at kumakaskas na sa metal wing nut, hindi man lang niya inayos kahit nasa pagitan na ng mga kanta nila. Umakyat pa ako ng stage para pagsabihan. Ayun, nakita ko parang may shavings na yung ride ko. Badtrip, vintage pa naman yun, gaganunin lang niya. Buti na lang, parang wala pa ring keyhole ang hitsura.

Kaya ang lesson dito: hindi na talaga ako magpapahiram ng cymbal kahit kanino.

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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2006, 04:54:35 PM »
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Kaya ang lesson dito: hindi na talaga ako magpapahiram ng cymbal kahit kanino.

Yan... cymbal care tip din yan. Sorry sa mga nanghihiram, pero mga chong, hindi mura ang mga cymbal. Mahirap-hirap sila pag-ipunan. Pis tayo, mga men.

In fairness, nagpapahiram naman ako sa mga drummer na alam kong maalaga sa cymbals (si Gep, papahiramin ko yan... hehehe).

OT: In a way, mahirap talaga maging drummer in terms of equipment. Minsan ka lang makakita ng taong hinahampas ang mga gamit na pinag-ipunan niya ng husto. :D
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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2006, 05:04:35 PM »
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OT: In a way, mahirap talaga maging drummer in terms of equipment. Minsan ka lang makakita ng taong hinahampas ang mga gamit na pinag-ipunan niya ng husto. :D


o nga no. so true. tapos hampas pa ng hampas pero ayaw naman magpahampas sa iba

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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2006, 07:51:33 PM »
pag tumatagal lalo gumaganda tunog.
di ko nililinisan.punas lng ng dry basahan
at hindi ako nag papahiram ng cymbals buhahah.
hirap maging drummer tsk tsk tsk/..

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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2006, 07:57:45 PM »
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Pag nasa cymbal bag, I make sure na walang metal-to-metal contact between 2 cymbals. Like now, I usually have 2 or 3 cymbals in one pocket ng bag... I'll have one cymbal (or yung in-between kapag 3 sila) wrapped in a t-shirt. I don't do this with the hats though, kasi same size lang sila... they fit together snugly and won't slide or create that much friction compared to differenly-sized cymbals.

Napansin ko nga mga cymbals mong dala nun sa EB kuya inigo. hekhek
Diba kaw yung may dalang cymbals na may mga butas?? Heheheh narinig ko sila tinatawag kang inigo hehe. Tnx po sa info

@Gep
Ganun po ba? lagi na kong mag babaon ng electric tape simula ngayon. Hehe  :D  Ako kahit ang cymbals ko yung zbt lang hindi talaga ko nag papahiram  :lol:

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In a way, mahirap talaga maging drummer in terms of equipment. Minsan ka lang makakita ng taong hinahampas ang mga gamit na pinag-ipunan niya ng husto.

Yep pero ang sarap ng feeling pag hinahanpas mo yung pinag ipunan mo diba?  :lol: Ewan ko pero para sakin ang sarap talaga ng feeling. Hehehe!!
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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2006, 08:03:53 PM »
Thanks po sa mga nag reply!  :oops:

May tanong po ako bakit parang may dumi na ewan yung gilid ng ilalim ng zbt hihat ko? Ayaw siya matanggal kahit ano gawin ko.. Eto po yung pic

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« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2006, 08:21:44 PM »
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pag tumatagal lalo gumaganda tunog.
di ko nililinisan.punas lng ng dry basahan
at hindi ako nag papahiram ng cymbals buhahah.
hirap maging drummer tsk tsk tsk/..


Totoo po ba yun pag tumatagal lalo gumaganda tunog???
Kahit po ba sa hi-hats? Di ba parang nawawala yung makalansing na tunog?
Tnx.
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