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Offline in_the_tent

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #50 on: September 03, 2008, 11:13:20 PM »
sir marky, post ka naman pics dito ng mga setups mo.  salamat.:-)
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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2008, 12:42:03 AM »
Probably the biggest variable and the most important factor in the success or failure of any Sound System is how the system is operated. Even the most perfectly designed system can be rendered useless if the engineer operates incorrectly.  By: Charles R. Boner May 1973 45th AES Convention

its is not on the equipment itself but on the operator's capabilities, is he trained enough to operate?

did he knows about basic electronics?

did he knows the TECHNICAL FUNDAMENTALS OF AUDIO?
PRACTICAL OPERATING TECHNIQUES?

did he knows what are the guidelines how to choose proper audio equipement for their church?

is the audio system has been designed professionally or designed by a professional audio consultant?

becuase the money that we use to buy audio equipment is GOD'S money, we need to know the factors to consider in choosing the RIGHT equipment for our church.

That's why AUDIO SOLUTIONS IS HERE TO EDUCATE CHRISTIANS.




Live Sound Reinforcement Training for House of Worship Applications

on Sep 13, '08 09:00am

Location:      Christ Centered Baptist Church, Bureau of Jail and Management Building (on top of Metrobank), near Ramos Hospital, Mindanao Avenue,Bahay Toro, Project 8, Quezon City

Hands on Audio Training for worship team members and church sound technicians.

Topics :
A. Technical Fundamentals of Audio
B. Practical Operating Techniques (HANDS ON)
C. Job description and Characteristics of a Good Sound technician


for interested and details pls do contact us at 920 4103 / 09204652916 / 0915 2761902 or email us at lotabyulo@yahoo.com

P 700.00/person inclusive of training certificate and hand outs.

early bird 10% discount for registrants until September 11, 2008

Deposit to:
Banco de Oro
Account Name : Mark Anthony L.Yulo Audio Solutions
Account Number : 4268007402
Fax the deposit slip to avail the discount

Kung meron lang kayo makati area sir sali ako jan. :)

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« Last Edit: September 04, 2008, 12:46:31 AM by markyulo »
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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2008, 01:39:36 AM »
sa church namin sa our lady of the pillar parish, we have a pair of bose 802 as the main, 4 pairs ng bose 151 as side fills, our mixer is a yamaha 01V96 digital console, we have a dbx drive rack, pair of behringer ultramizers, behringer compressor/limiter gate(just forgot the model),  a furman power conditioner, 4 pairs of yamaha p series power amps and an old yamaha amp(which i cant remember also), tascam cd/tape deck, a 60 ampere UPS/AVR, 4 shure beta 58 mics, 3 peavey vcm 3 chior microphones, behringer B5 condenser mic, Korg Sp-100, Yamaha PSR-550, Fender KXR 60, Genesis KA-100, Line 6 Guitar amp, Fender Bassman 60 Bass amp, Vintage Maya drum set.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2009, 11:04:35 PM by densmodina »

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2008, 03:04:25 AM »
This may be a little OT but any kind of "super" sound system will not function properly without these.  I hope you don't mind my chiming in on the topic.

There are several factors that contribute to a natural, intelligible, neutral and good sounding sound system.  First, the acoustics of the space (if a church is with walls) should be right.  Remember that long time ago there were no sound reinforcement systems.  Churches had to rely on good acoustics so that the praise and worship and the word were heard properly.  When sound reinforcement systems came into being, they were used to aid in the intelligibility and to reach the back portions of the Churches audibly.  Every word, good singing and music has to be heard well everywhere.  Remember, a very good sound system will sound mediocre in a space with a badly designed acoustics; a mid range sound system will sound good in an acoustically well-designed space; a very good sound system will sound excellent in an acoustically well-designed space or Church.  So, acoustics takes precedence.  Second, the sound system must be designed to suit the Church's needs and requirements.  I have seen over-designed systems, and have seen under-designed ones as well.  Both are a waste of precious money.  I have seen wrong speaker placements (very common) and wrong speaker-amp matchings. I have seen equipment that are not used just because somebody from the Church's worship team said it will be good for praise and worship purposes and it was bought but in the end, it did not have any use.  Sound system design and equipment selection must be left to those who know and understand these things.  Not the cousin of a friend of the mother of the assistant of the pastor who does hifi or karaoke stuff.  Finally, the operators must be trained and understand the fundamentals of sound, audio and acoustics.  Also, the basics of sound system operation.  That way, they understand what they are doing.  I have conducted several Church sound seminars and after the sessions, most Christian Churches operators are in awe.  They finally realize what they are doing is completely opposite of what the proper practice is (I did not mention wrong). 

So, what I am saying here is, let's use our creative talents properly to spread God's word, and continue improving ourselves to achieve a high level of Christian Church sound proficiency.  That way, we use the Church's sound equipment to its fullest capacity.  Also, we should use the Church's money properly.  We should be good stewards.  Church's money is not that plenty (although definitely everyone will say our Father in heaven will always give use the blessing.  Our Father is so rich, money is no object to him),  But there are other concerns that had to be looked at by the Church where money will also be needed.  Stewardship is the key.

The Philippine Council for Evangelical Churches (PCEC) conducts an audio seminar every now and then.  We just finished two sessions and there will be more.  We hope to have this as a continuing education for our Christian brothers who do Church sound and operate it properly.  If you are interested in attending the sessions, get in touch with Pastor Henry Santos (ptrhenrysantos@gmail.com) for some info.  As a matter of fact, one will be held this September 20 at the Knox Church in Manila. 

I personally conduct the seminars.

Thanks for your time.  God bless.

Mike N. Pedero
TRACKSAcoustics
www.facebook.com/TRACKSAcoustics/Studios
guitars: gretsch 6122-1962; rickenbacker 330; epi elite casinos; gibson les paul standards, tribute, faded, double cut; gibson sg standards, faded; fender strats MIAs, MIJs, MIMs; fender tele MIAs, MIJs, MIMs; etc


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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2008, 08:34:23 AM »
Mike: Amen.

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2008, 11:19:47 AM »
Photos of our previous AUDIO TRAINING FOR CHURCHES here and in abroad, pls. check the links.... :-D

We give Solutions and Answers to your Questions, we visit churches and make an assesment for free!!

we help churches (small to large churches) with adequate knowledge and appropriate equipment in sound management and reinforcement.
 
Most of our staff are CHRISTIAN Engineers, Communication Graduates, Experience Technicians in the Field not just on the paper but doing hands on projects.

We conduct Hands on training not just " seminars" only for churches.

We use pro audio equipment during the session not just Powerpoint presentations.


http://yuloaudiosolutions.multiply.com/photos/album/36/Audio_Training_-_Dwelling_Place_Christian_Fellowship

http://yuloaudiosolutions.multiply.com/photos/album/34/Audio_Training_-_Trinitarian_All_for_Jesus

http://yuloaudiosolutions.multiply.com/photos/album/33/Audio_Training_-_ICS_Church_Mandaluyong_A.G.

http://yuloaudiosolutions.multiply.com/photos/album/32/Audio_Workshop_in_the_middle_east_

http://yuloaudiosolutions.multiply.com/photos/album/31/AUDIO_WORKSHOP-UNIVERSITY_BAPTIST_CHURCH

http://yuloaudiosolutions.multiply.com/photos/album/25/Hands_on_Audio_Training_-_Upper_Room_Church

http://yuloaudiosolutions.multiply.com/photos/album/22/Hands_on_Audio_Training_-_CGPMI_

http://yuloaudiosolutions.multiply.com/photos/album/19/Audio_Training_-_CGPMI_Middle_East_

http://yuloaudiosolutions.multiply.com/photos/album/5/Audio_Training_-_Jesus_Sanctuary_

http://yuloaudiosolutions.multiply.com/photos/album/16/Audio_Training_-_Gods_Warrior_Church_

http://yuloaudiosolutions.multiply.com/photos/album/10/Audio_Training_-_Post_Ad_Events_Company

pls. do calls us at 920 4103, 0915 942 1813, 0920 465 2916  look for Mark or Lota
or email us at markanthonyyulo@yahoo.com

CHRISTIANS LETS HELP TOGETHER FOR HIS GLORY!



mark anthony yulo
audio solutions
(christian company)
« Last Edit: September 13, 2008, 12:38:39 AM by markyulo »
Audio Solutions (engineering & design)
http://audiosolutions.weebly.com
920 4103 / 0922-600-3174

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #57 on: September 04, 2008, 06:17:39 PM »
I have conducted several Church sound seminars and after the sessions, most Christian Churches operators are in awe.  They finally realize what they are doing is completely opposite of what the proper practice is (I did not mention wrong). 

So, what I am saying here is, let's use our creative talents properly to spread God's word, and continue improving ourselves to achieve a high level of Christian Church sound proficiency.  That way, we use the Church's sound equipment to its fullest capacity.  Also, we should use the Church's money properly.  We should be good stewards.  Church's money is not that plenty (although definitely everyone will say our Father in heaven will always give use the blessing.  Our Father is so rich, money is no object to him),  But there are other concerns that had to be looked at by the Church where money will also be needed.  Stewardship is the key.

The Philippine Council for Evangelical Churches (PCEC) conducts an audio seminar every now and then.  We just finished two sessions and there will be more.  We hope to have this as a continuing education for our Christian brothers who do Church sound and operate it properly.  If you are interested in attending the sessions, get in touch with Pastor Henry Santos (ptrhenrysantos@gmail.com) for some info.  As a matter of fact, one will be held this September 20 at the Knox Church in Manila. 

I personally conduct the seminars.

Thanks for your time.  God bless.

Mike N. Pedero
TRACKSAcoustics


mikep
ASA, AES, SMPTE, IAA


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The common saying that the ears are the ultimate judge in music production? To some extent they certainly are, but as we are now aware, they can also be fooled extremely easily. -- "How The Ear Works" (2011) by Emmanuel Deruty

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2008, 05:28:04 PM »
wow, you guys have been giving very useful info.

please keep it coming!

God bless!

Post em guys!  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #59 on: September 11, 2008, 09:44:22 AM »
Audio Solutions Company (a christian company) is offering free church audio system assesment or technical ocular during your church service for Metro Manila Churches only.

We can give good advice, recomend and asses your existing Audio System and Acoustical Problems

for interested pls do call us at 920 4103 / 0915 942 1813 / 0928 412 0417 look for Mr. Mark Anthony Yulo of Audio Solutions for the schedule.


 
« Last Edit: September 11, 2008, 09:47:19 AM by markyulo »
Audio Solutions (engineering & design)
http://audiosolutions.weebly.com
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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2008, 05:37:08 PM »
in line with the topic, i would like to share to you guys our setup for the soundsystem. Here it goes:

Mixer
Mackie 24x4x2 - very versatile and durable mixer

Rack processors:
American DJ Power Distribution Rack
1 unit Behringer dual 31 band equalizer
DBX Driverack PA
Alesis Compressor/limiter/gate
Alesis Midiverb4 Digital Effects processor
BBE Sonic Maximizer
Pioneer Dual Tape Deck

Speakers:
2 units Wharfdale LIX15-FR (3 way system)
2 units Celestion wedge monitors

Amps:
QSC USA 900
QSC 1500

Mics:
Shure SM58
Shure Wireless mics
Behringer mics (sulit to for the price!)
BARDL Drum mics
AKG Mics
Audio Technica

Playback and recording devices
PC running Easyworship and Vegas during services
M-Audio Firewire 1814 to record the band and the sermons
*Basically we run MP3's for playback

Our church is based in Las Pinas City

one of my businesses is sound system rentals so when our business did good. We donated some of the instruments and equipment to the church.

We deserve the best!

Thanks guys for the space.

God Bless you all :-D :-D



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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2008, 06:01:32 PM »
Wow! Mukahang astig sa inyo sir ah! Pictures naman jan!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2008, 06:04:56 PM »
Audio Solutions is inviting you to join our

Digital Audio Recording Seminar/Training

Topics:

Fundamentals of Audio Recording
Microphone Techniques
Basic Audio Editing
Recording Mixing Techniques
Signal Processors

1 to 2 times sessions of 3 hours per week
limited to 8 students per session only
Total of 8 sessions per student
Tentative  Start : Last week of October up to  first week of December

Fees will be send to the interested individuals only via email:

All interested should send us the following information:

Complete Name:
Complete Address:
Mobile Number and Landline Number:
Email :
Profession or current work:
Company Name:
Course Taken:
Age and Birthday:
Relgion:
Musical Knowledge:

send your inquries and your above said complete information to our email address only not on the forum....

markanthonyyulo@yahoo.com

0915 942 1813
0928412 0417
920 4103
mark anthony yulo
Audio Solutions (engineering & design)
http://audiosolutions.weebly.com
920 4103 / 0922-600-3174

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #63 on: September 16, 2008, 06:28:34 PM »
tingnan mo ung friendster profile.. di ko ma upload photos... faceplate7@yahoo.com GOd bless :-D

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2008, 12:00:56 AM »
This may be a little OT but any kind of "super" sound system will not function properly without these.  I hope you don't mind my chiming in on the topic.

There are several factors that contribute to a natural, intelligible, neutral and good sounding sound system.  First, the acoustics of the space (if a church is with walls) should be right.  Remember that long time ago there were no sound reinforcement systems.  Churches had to rely on good acoustics so that the praise and worship and the word were heard properly.  When sound reinforcement systems came into being, they were used to aid in the intelligibility and to reach the back portions of the Churches audibly.  Every word, good singing and music has to be heard well everywhere.  Remember, a very good sound system will sound mediocre in a space with a badly designed acoustics; a mid range sound system will sound good in an acoustically well-designed space; a very good sound system will sound excellent in an acoustically well-designed space or Church.  So, acoustics takes precedence.  Second, the sound system must be designed to suit the Church's needs and requirements.  I have seen over-designed systems, and have seen under-designed ones as well.  Both are a waste of precious money.  I have seen wrong speaker placements (very common) and wrong speaker-amp matchings. I have seen equipment that are not used just because somebody from the Church's worship team said it will be good for praise and worship purposes and it was bought but in the end, it did not have any use.  Sound system design and equipment selection must be left to those who know and understand these things.  Not the cousin of a friend of the mother of the assistant of the pastor who does hifi or karaoke stuff.  Finally, the operators must be trained and understand the fundamentals of sound, audio and acoustics.  Also, the basics of sound system operation.  That way, they understand what they are doing.  I have conducted several Church sound seminars and after the sessions, most Christian Churches operators are in awe.  They finally realize what they are doing is completely opposite of what the proper practice is (I did not mention wrong). 

So, what I am saying here is, let's use our creative talents properly to spread God's word, and continue improving ourselves to achieve a high level of Christian Church sound proficiency.  That way, we use the Church's sound equipment to its fullest capacity.  Also, we should use the Church's money properly.  We should be good stewards.  Church's money is not that plenty (although definitely everyone will say our Father in heaven will always give use the blessing.  Our Father is so rich, money is no object to him),  But there are other concerns that had to be looked at by the Church where money will also be needed.  Stewardship is the key.

The Philippine Council for Evangelical Churches (PCEC) conducts an audio seminar every now and then.  We just finished two sessions and there will be more.  We hope to have this as a continuing education for our Christian brothers who do Church sound and operate it properly.  If you are interested in attending the sessions, get in touch with Pastor Henry Santos (ptrhenrysantos@gmail.com) for some info.  As a matter of fact, one will be held this September 20 at the Knox Church in Manila. 

I personally conduct the seminars.

Thanks for your time.  God bless.

Mike N. Pedero
TRACKSAcoustics

Sir mikep! Ang lupet mo talaga. You are heaven sent! For only P200 I have found more than half of our church's "noise". This guy is a teacher at heart. You can see in his face (when he talks to you) that he is happy to teach you and is more than glad to help you understand the topic so you could apply it. I didn't expect to see such enthusiasm from a pro-audio guy. if you find pro-audio complicated then attend this guy's seminars. Isusubo nya sayo ang sagot for no extra charge... with humor pa.  :-D :-D Di mo nga aakalaing big time to eh. napaka-humble. Sana punuin ka pa ng Dos and Siyete ng projects.  :wink: :wink:

mikep, you've got 4 thumbs up from me! Saludo ako sayo, master! Kitakits sa mga susunod na seminars. God bless you more!

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2008, 12:26:09 PM »
Thank you, skyjammer.  I hope I was able to impart something which will contribute to your knowledge about church audio.  To God be the Glory!
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guitars: gretsch 6122-1962; rickenbacker 330; epi elite casinos; gibson les paul standards, tribute, faded, double cut; gibson sg standards, faded; fender strats MIAs, MIJs, MIMs; fender tele MIAs, MIJs, MIMs; etc

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2008, 02:03:09 PM »
Thank you, skyjammer.  I hope I was able to impart something which will contribute to your knowledge about church audio.  To God be the Glory!

You were able to do that sir. Thank you! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #67 on: October 04, 2008, 03:11:03 PM »
Mga bros, I just want to share our humble PA setup. It has been serving for 12 years in our church and counting. Mismo ako bilib sa durability ng mga ito...

Mixer: Yamaha MX12/4
Power Amp: Yamaha P3200
Speakers: Yamaha s112v
Mics: Shure SM58

Pics will follow soon...

I would like also to share our experience in the church particulary in the worship ministry. Three months ago, the  worship ministry in our church drove a fund raising program for the upgrade of our existing PA system. We have been praying for it for so long and finally, by God's timing we receive packages straight from our brethren abroad.




JBL JRX 125


Neutrik connectors


Hard Case for Mics


Gator Mixer Rack Case


Crown XLS 802




Hartke Bass amp and cabinet


Gibraltar Drum Throne and Boom Stands


Gator Hard Case for Acoustic, Bass and Guitar


Proel Snake Cable


dbx Driverack PA


Shure wireless mic


Gator Softcase for the wireless mic


I will also post pictures of the actual setup in the church soon so that I can solicit some advices for further enhancement of the system because He deserves non the less but excellence.

For His Glory and Honor!

Church of Christ @ San Isidro
General Santos City


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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2008, 09:43:27 AM »
Mga bros, I just want to share our humble PA setup. It has been serving for 12 years in our church and counting. Mismo ako bilib sa durability ng mga ito...

Mixer: Yamaha MX12/4
Power Amp: Yamaha P3200
Speakers: Yamaha s112v
Mics: Shure SM58

Pics will follow soon...

I would like also to share our experience in the church particulary in the worship ministry. Three months ago, the  worship ministry in our church drove a fund raising program for the upgrade of our existing PA system. We have been praying for it for so long and finally, by God's timing we receive packages straight from our brethren abroad.

I will also post pictures of the actual setup in the church soon so that I can solicit some advices for further enhancement of the system because He deserves non the less but excellence.

For His Glory and Honor!

Church of Christ @ San Isidro
General Santos City



WOW! indeed yan ang tinatawag na God's Favor! We only deserve the BEST!

Champion na system setup yan sir... Maganda pa tono nyo na din ung room kay sir Markl Yulo!

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #69 on: October 07, 2008, 02:10:49 PM »
I would like also to share our experience in the church particulary in the worship ministry. Three months ago, the  worship ministry in our church drove a fund raising program for the upgrade of our existing PA system. We have been praying for it for so long and finally, by God's timing we receive packages straight from our brethren abroad.

 :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o

Pano ko ba sasabihing "nakakainggit" na hindi halata?  :-D :-D :-D

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #70 on: October 07, 2008, 04:38:32 PM »
It was an overwhelming experience also for us... For how many years din namin itong hinintay. And yes pinagdaan din nmin yung mga experinces na maingit din sa mga gamit ng ibang church... Just proclaim God's promise and Favor and by God's timing dadating din yan...

Oo nga sir telemetry kelangan tlaga namin ng professional help,. although we know a bit of knowledge about basic sound reinforcement but iba tlaga mga experienced professional sound engineer just like sir Mike and Mark... Pero ang problema kasi is malayo kami sa inyo eh... Sana makaabot dito ang ministry nila sir Mike and mark, it would be of great help...

« Last Edit: October 07, 2008, 06:11:21 PM by Jason@gensan »

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2008, 01:56:06 PM »
I hope I was able to impart something which will contribute to your knowledge about church audio.  To God be the Glory!

Sir, I have learned a lot though di na ko naka attend ng 2nd session. But it was a great time learning the fundamentals
« Last Edit: October 08, 2008, 01:57:11 PM by dequi09 »
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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2008, 03:06:54 PM »
We must do it again sometime.  Glad to impart some knowledge.  Of course, all comes the Source - to God be the Glory!
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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2008, 03:33:22 PM »
We must do it again sometime.  Glad to impart some knowledge.  Of course, all comes the Source - to God be the Glory!

I'm working on it sir. see you at our church. :)

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Re: Show off time: Church Sound System
« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2008, 03:54:05 PM »
Nice, skyjammer.  God bless.
www.facebook.com/TRACKSAcoustics/Studios
guitars: gretsch 6122-1962; rickenbacker 330; epi elite casinos; gibson les paul standards, tribute, faded, double cut; gibson sg standards, faded; fender strats MIAs, MIJs, MIMs; fender tele MIAs, MIJs, MIMs; etc