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Offline kulapoot

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Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
« on: February 21, 2006, 04:44:30 AM »
im just a beginner..i just bought a fernando drumset and my snare drum lacks snare sound...   noong mejo bago p ung snare drum, pinatono ko dun pinagbilan s sta mesa at maganda tunog..   ngaun parang kulang s snare ung tunog..parang wala n ngang snare sound.  parang tomtom lng ung tunog.. hinigpitan at niluwagan ko n ung mga skin s taas at baba..hinigpitan at niluwagan ko n ren ung wire s ilalim...ayaw p den khet anong combination...  cnubukan ko lagyan ng masking tape ung wire s ilalim mejo ngkasnare n tunog n, pero bitin p ren..  pano ayusen to??? or bili n lng ng bago..  thanks..



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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2006, 01:51:57 PM »
maluwag siguro yung strainer mo

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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2006, 09:51:28 AM »
I TUNE MO SA PINAKAMASIKIP UNG SIDE ENDS NG SNARE UNG BUONG BILOG MGA SCREW SA GILID. LUMULUWAG TLGA SA GAMET.

OR BKA LOSTRED NA UNG MGA SCREW NG SNARE MO, BILIE KA NA NG BAGO.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2006, 06:54:59 AM »
Sir paano nyo tinotono ung snare nyo?? ung sken kc tunog bakal..parang "klunk".gus2 ko ung bawasan ung tunog bakal..pano??..  pantay b dapat sikip ng taas at baba o dapat masmasikip ung baba?? tips nman

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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2006, 08:30:45 AM »


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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2006, 08:06:56 AM »
hahaha! naiinis din ako sa tunog na "klunk". bad trip..  :lol:
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2006, 09:31:54 PM »
there are lots of ways tuning a snare, or even the entire set.
you can make the resonant head/batter head tight if you prefer a higher pitch on your kit. But what is important is you make the lugs equally tightened, producing them to have equal sounds at each lug. about 1-1.5 inches. that goes to your toms palang.
Sa snare, try removing first the wires, kc ako i tend to make the least tension for my resonant head/bottom head. tapos i tighten the snare to the extent, pwede din naman at your own pitch, as long as equal ang produced sound ng bawat lug. tapos its better to make your left tom 3 notes higher to your snare.

hope that helps man. 8)
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2006, 01:28:55 PM »
dito rin pala si sir peeves!

di ko pa nababasa ang link.. anyway, natry ko itono ang snare ko (crappy heads). Yun nga lang mukhang naka-tono nya yung high tom ko kasi pag hampasin ko high tom, tumutunog din ang snare belt. bleh!

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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2006, 02:05:20 PM »
buy new heads
remo coated ambasador/evans g1 over snare side reso
and read the link what mr.peeve posted

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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2006, 02:07:08 PM »
Quote from: Miggleness
dito rin pala si sir peeves!

di ko pa nababasa ang link.. anyway, natry ko itono ang snare ko (crappy heads). Yun nga lang mukhang naka-tono nya yung high tom ko kasi pag hampasin ko high tom, tumutunog din ang snare belt. bleh!


hindi tlaga maiiwasan yan.
tune ur high tom lower

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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2006, 02:36:30 PM »
Quote from: judithp_shredder
I TUNE MO SA PINAKAMASIKIP UNG SIDE ENDS NG SNARE UNG BUONG BILOG MGA SCREW SA GILID. LUMULUWAG TLGA SA GAMET.

OR BKA LOSTRED NA UNG MGA SCREW NG SNARE MO, BILIE KA NA NG BAGO.


bad.dont choke ur snare.
tune it fairly tight
if u want more crack,high pitched, tune the reso tighter than the batter
dont crank ur snare wires, it will affect the dynamics.
no muffling, i mean no paper,tapes,tissue

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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2006, 09:25:44 PM »
good day,

I suggestmaglagay ka ng donut o yun O-ring na nilalagay sa ibabaw ng batterhead ng snare to reduce overtone. May nabibili nito sa audiophile.

If you dont want metal sound or overtones, might as well buy a wood snare. Kse personality na at characteristics talaga ng mga metal snares(brass, bronze, etc..) yun sound na ito which some drummers do like naman.

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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2006, 09:33:50 PM »
put Oring pag sa bahay ka lng praktis pero pag live or wit the band tanggalin mo na para open ung tunog. remember iba naririnig ng audience at drummer.

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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2006, 10:09:16 PM »
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put Oring pag sa bahay ka lng praktis pero pag live or wit the band tanggalin mo na para open ung tunog. remember iba naririnig ng audience at drummer.


Ok din itong suggestion. Pero parang baligtad yata, kse a lot of times sa live playing the tech will ask me kung paano ko marereduce yun overtones sa snare ko. Sa bahay naman ok lang may overtones kse ikaw lang naman ang nakikinig or kung gusto mo walang overtones use whatever means possible. pero kung preference nga nung player ma reduce yun metal sound or overtones be it live or at home use whatever means possible to get your desired sound, personal taste yun ng drummer lalo na sa snare drum sound. A lot of great drummers have distinct snare drum sounds na kapag sila na yun pumamapalo alam mo na na siya yun like Steve Gadd kse preferred sound nya yun. An open sound does not always mean a good sound. Again preference yan ng drummer. Sa live playing naman naka mic yun drums so more often than not controlled yun sound na lalabas wag mo nga lang hahatawin ng malakas yun snare drums dahil ndi ito mapapatunog ng tech ng maayos.

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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2006, 12:08:46 AM »
its just me.
IMHO...in general na lng basta,.. learn to tune!! waaah!! u will get the sound u want if u can tune properly! hehe peace. syempre pag me magandang heads ka. bilin mo muna ung tamang heads base dun sa  tunog na gus2 mong makuha.

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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2006, 12:39:58 AM »
Thanks s mga suggestions sirs!!!!


Mga sirs kc ang gus2 ko sanang  tunog ung parang snare drum ni carter beauford of DMB(Asa p.hehe).  or closer to that sound. any suggestions on my cheap ass fernando snare.. thanks...

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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2006, 01:04:12 PM »
IMO,u cant get it, kc naka mic un. iba na labas nun kc na mix na un. pangalawa iba snare nya sa snare mo and the heads.

sa snare mo naman.
i suggest bili ka ng new heads.
remo coated ambasador over clear ambasador snare side sa JB music
500 pesos each.
basahin mo ng paulit ulit ung tuning bible. lahat ng mga tunog (fat,wet,cracky,open,pop,highly resonant etc) makukuha mo pag natutunan mo and experiment! hanapin ang sweet spot ng current snare mo. un lng talaga.... ok kaya, ganito na lng, tune mo ung batter side base dun sa 'feel'
meaning pag hinampas mo, makukuha mo ung tamang 'rebound' ng stick mo. sa resonant side naman tune mo ng mas mahigpit kesa sa batter side. kakalabasan nito high pitched,cracky sound. ayan. isang example. :P  :roll:
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2006, 03:10:46 PM »
Quote from: kulapoot
Thanks s mga suggestions sirs!!!!


Mga sirs kc ang gus2 ko sanang  tunog ung parang snare drum ni carter beauford of DMB(Asa p.hehe).  or closer to that sound. any suggestions on my cheap ass fernando snare.. thanks...


yep as Eni mentioned, you cant get it because aside from being miced, they also applied compression.

the closest thing is by replacing your batter head with evans genera dry. tune the batter slightly tighter than the resonant to get that dry crackling sound. use a wood snare for an even drier sound.

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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2006, 08:46:39 AM »
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Quote from: kulapoot
Thanks s mga suggestions sirs!!!!


Mga sirs kc ang gus2 ko sanang  tunog ung parang snare drum ni carter beauford of DMB(Asa p.hehe).  or closer to that sound. any suggestions on my cheap ass fernando snare.. thanks...


yep as Eni mentioned, you cant get it because aside from being miced, they also applied compression.

the closest thing is by replacing your batter head with evans genera dry. tune the batter slightly tighter than the resonant to get that dry crackling sound. use a wood snare for an even drier sound.


kuya peeves san ba nakakabili dito ng evans g1 o kaya remo coated emperor, o kaya sa malaking variety ng heads? di kc ako nakakalabas masyado o nakakapunta sa ibang lugar tulad sa raon etc :roll:

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2006, 09:12:25 PM »
g1 sa audiophile at iba pang models ng evans

di pa ata talaga nagbenta ng emperor ang jb. dati coated ambassadors at cs dotted at pinstripes lang ang nabili ko sa kanila

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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2006, 12:16:39 PM »
ok lng ba ung tunog ng fernando na picolo then lagyan ng ambassador na remo tapos palitan ung parang spring ng mas makapal????
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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2006, 02:40:14 PM »
changing heads is always a good idea. hehe. ano ang snare side ba nyan? Maganda yung manipis na snare side para sensitive sya sa wires tlaga.

tapos... about sa pagpalit ng wires I dont know. Kasi manipis na ang picolo kaya masmabilis ang snare reaction na sya compared sa deeper drums.  Yung wire pinapalitan from 20 to 40 for deeper drums kasi minsan parang bitin na ang tunog nya.

Masmabuti kung ma-try mo muna yung wire bago mo bilhin.

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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2006, 03:40:54 PM »
remo amb over snare side amb.wak mo na palitan ung spring.ingatan mo na lng. wag mo tabingiin

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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2006, 09:57:24 PM »
sir, anong ibig sbihin kpag picolo??b gawa s kahoy??? mgkano ang ganito??

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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2006, 03:20:50 AM »
Sir pano tanggalin ung bakal n tunog s fernando stock steel snare?? ung sken hnde ko matanggal tlga..lahat ng adjustment and combinations ginwa ko n.(frm pearl forum and drum tuning bible)- no go.tlga... pinalitan ko n ung heads. remo ambasador coated on top, remo clear hazy at the bottom.. mejo nbawasan pero mabakal p den ung tunog... tsaka nung pinalitan heads , lumakas ung tunog sobra.nasasapawan n ung iba.. tips nman... kelangan ko n yata tlga bumile bagong snare n kahoy.. kwarto pala nka setup ung drums.. tips...thanks
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tips nman den on buying new snare drum.. ung hnde masyado mahal, pero mganda n den tunog..gusto ko kc ung tunog n mejo makahoy.. ung mejo malapet s snare ni carter beauford of DMB..kung kaya..hehehe.. khet lazer or fernando n lng ulet n kahoy..how much n den ok b to??
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