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Offline sunny

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« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2006, 03:41:06 AM »
Sir try using Remo fibre skyn batter head and then tune the bottom head higher pitched than the batter head(top), dapat low pitch lang batter head para hindi syado litaw ang 'ringy' overtones.Dapat evenly tuned rin each lug para matalbog with lesser metallic overtones.

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Offline rage_27

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« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2006, 12:16:04 PM »
may binebenta si bam at si eni na picollo..

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Offline Eni

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« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2006, 03:15:33 PM »
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sir, anong ibig sbihin kpag picolo??b gawa s kahoy??? mgkano ang ganito??


picolo ung manipis na snare.

Offline Miggleness

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« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2006, 11:36:11 PM »
Mga peeps...

paano ba tamang pag-tono sa snare drum?

Noon kasi medium tension ako sa batter and tight yung bottom.  Problem ko was the sympathetic buzz when I hit the 12" tom. malakas talaga yung buzz. To reduce it, I tighten the wires.  Yun nga lang, nagiging one dimensional na ang tunog ng snare drum kasi mahina o malakas ang palo mo, pareho halos ang tunog.  Can be good but its not good when you want to play with the snare drum.

What I did was loosen the bottom a bit, tighten the top... so tight na halos di mo na ma-press down yung head.

The kanina yung isang snare drum sa perfect pitch napansin ko na sobrang higpit nga ng top and bottom heads tapos sobrang loose yung snares.  It sounded poppish.  Ayun, medyo ginaya ko. I tightened the batter a bit more and loosened the snares.

Heto ang samples:

Medium snare tension, pretty tight heads: http://dl.pinoyhaws.com/miguel/snare.wav

Loose snare tension, tight batter: http://dl.pinoyhaws.com/miguel/snareloose.wav

pagpasensyahan nyo na kasi bulok yung tunog. hehe.  And bulok din yung audio recorder ng camera, parang panay overtones ng lahat ng hampasin ko ang natutuha nya.

Anyway, madami po din naman interesado sa topic na ito so hopefully, papost naman ng samples ng tuning nyo sa snare drum nyo.

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« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2006, 12:11:13 AM »
Mejo OT pero ask ko na din dito. "Sensya na po Miggleness ha. share nalang tayo sa thread mo"  :oops:

Yung snare kong fernando na 16x6 ata yun (basta yung kasama sa fernando na set) pag pinalitan ko ba ng heads yun like remo ambassador, gaganda talaga tunog nya? Or bibili talaga dapat ako ng snare drum? Thanks.
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« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2006, 12:16:43 AM »
Quote from: autoexec
Mejo OT pero ask ko na din dito. "Sensya na po Miggleness ha. share nalang tayo sa thread mo"  :oops:

Yung snare kong fernando na 16x6 ata yun (basta yung kasama sa fernando na set) pag pinalitan ko ba ng heads yun like remo ambassador, gaganda talaga tunog nya? Or bibili talaga dapat ako ng snare drum? Thanks.

sir snare mo 16x6? ang laki naman ata??????
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« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2006, 12:29:58 AM »
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Quote from: autoexec
Mejo OT pero ask ko na din dito. "Sensya na po Miggleness ha. share nalang tayo sa thread mo"  :oops:

Yung snare kong fernando na 16x6 ata yun (basta yung kasama sa fernando na set) pag pinalitan ko ba ng heads yun like remo ambassador, gaganda talaga tunog nya? Or bibili talaga dapat ako ng snare drum? Thanks.

sir snare mo 16x6? ang laki naman ata??????


Ahehe! Di ako sure eh basta yung default po na kasama sa set... Sapat na ba ang magandang heads para mapaganda ang tunog nun? Or kailangan ng mas high end na snare drum? Tnx
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Offline jun_BALARAW

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« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2006, 02:20:26 AM »
14" yan sir. yan ang standard. bili ka remo ambassador coated. ayus yan. gaganda tunog niyan
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Offline g0d5_g1ft

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« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2006, 03:55:21 PM »
guys may naka try na sa inyo gumamit ng marching heads pra sa snare nyo? ok ba? super tibay din kc nila eh just wondering kung ok sila sa drumset setting...
matututo kaya ako magdrums? kelan kaya iyon...

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Offline Eni

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« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2006, 04:04:44 PM »
to miggleness,
mas maganda ung snare loose. kc parang na choke ung isa.

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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2006, 02:53:10 AM »
di ok yun.
iba kasi ang material nun. mas makapal.
you have to crank it up sa tuning which would possibly damage your snare.
marching snares are built differently than drumset snares.
i wouldn't do it if i were you.

Offline legnacilyz

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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2006, 11:15:33 PM »
Sir Benii uses that on his snare right?
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« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2006, 12:03:24 AM »
dunno kung cno po si sir benii eh eheheh... curious lang naman ako sa kanila eh
matututo kaya ako magdrums? kelan kaya iyon...

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« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2006, 12:23:21 AM »
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14" yan sir. yan ang standard. bili ka remo ambassador coated. ayus yan. gaganda tunog niyan


Ah talaga bro? Sige try ko nalang muna drum heads bago snare drum  :D
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Offline legnacilyz

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« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2006, 01:30:27 AM »
ay! sorry! si Sir Benii is the owner of the DW kit nung nagkaron ng EB3 ang Pinoydrums! tas nkita ko ung snare niya, black ung batter head! mei thread dito about questions sa EB3 ng pinoydrums eh.. nndun p ung tnong ko ata.. tnong ko kung ano ung batter ni sir benii.. nklimutan ko n ung sinabi nilang tatak pero for marching daw un! hehehe super tight!

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« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2006, 09:58:32 PM »
ei pano ba i-loosen ung snare wires?

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« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2006, 06:13:15 PM »
may ikutan sa gilid.

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« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2006, 06:31:42 PM »
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may ikutan sa gilid.
ah un lang ba un.. ok thanks

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« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2006, 02:03:38 PM »
mga master... tanong lang po... ok din ba tunog ng remo controlled sound na head?
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« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2006, 04:35:27 PM »
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mga master... tanong lang po... ok din ba tunog ng remo controlled sound na head?

hindi pa ko naka try niyan... pero parang yan ang gamit nila portnoy, simon philips..
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Offline Miggleness

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« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2006, 08:59:25 PM »
Remo controlled sound...

Fatter ang tunog nya.  I use evans reverse dot, similar to remo CS pero nasa ilalim yung dot. Compared sa unmuffled head, mas-fat and warm ang tunog nya.

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« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2006, 10:39:37 PM »
try this combination

fernando piccolo snare, metal shell (sa JB meron)
remo soundmaster (ang problema wala na ata nito sa pinas)
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overtones s fernando piccolo snare!!! pano tanggalin??? tnx!
« Reply #47 on: August 30, 2006, 09:22:13 PM »
i've already changed the batter head to remo coated ambassador, and 13"
gibraltar snare wires... i've tighten all the lugs, both the batter and
the resonant side... but still, it don't sound too cracky and has
overtones like echoes... what do you think is the best way to make it
sound like other piccolo snares? tnx!!!

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« Reply #48 on: August 30, 2006, 09:27:21 PM »
two words....remo muffler!  :lol:
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overtones s fernando piccolo snare!!! pano tanggalin??? tnx!
« Reply #49 on: August 30, 2006, 11:29:26 PM »
did you tighten the snare wire?

If you did, then untighten it. Really really loose dapat sya, but not too loose that it just rattles.

if you can barely press your finger into the resonant head, loosen a bit. Wag masyadong mahigpit.

overtones are normal but can be minimized with proper tuning.  Dont worry, pag tutugtog ka na, di na maririnig yan.  Dont put mufflers kasi flatter ang magiging tunog ng snare mo.  At magiging lower ang tone ng snare mo.

Best help you can get it visit music studios and observe how they tuned their snare.  That was what I did.  Took me 6 months to get my snare drum to sound great.