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Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #300 on: January 05, 2012, 01:34:48 PM »
Sir balitaan mo naman ako kung okey tunog nung EC reverse dot head pag nalagay mo na.. :)
i also have a EC reverse dot head on my 14" snare drum.. ok naman ung tunog pero for me, i think mas bagay sya for wood snares.. i tune it high and still gives a nice sound.. many pro drummers are using that head also.. greetings from cebu kapatid!! :)

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« Reply #301 on: January 07, 2012, 09:06:18 AM »
Mga Sir ano kaya magandang tuning sa GRESTCH RENOWN MAPLE 14 x 6.5?I'm using Aquarian Hi-Energy(Batter side) and Evans hazy 300 (Reso side).Yun Phat crack or mas magandang crack niya na mapro produce...Thanks.. :-D

Bro parehas tayo ng snare...
Kung fat crack ang gusto mo palabasin, Remo Coated Ambasador... Ok ang Hazy 300 as reso pero mas maganda kung Ambassador Snare Side... medium tight on the batter, tight on the reso tapos, wag masyadong tight yung snare wires... also consider the stick, 5A plastic tip, gives you fatness but lots of ring so consider putting moongel or anything na makakapag- muffle... Pag 5A wood tip naman, dun maganda ang sound, ganda ng fatness, nice crack and nice ring...

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« Reply #302 on: January 08, 2012, 12:23:07 AM »
Bro parehas tayo ng snare...
Kung fat crack ang gusto mo palabasin, Remo Coated Ambasador... Ok ang Hazy 300 as reso pero mas maganda kung Ambassador Snare Side... medium tight on the batter, tight on the reso tapos, wag masyadong tight yung snare wires... also consider the stick, 5A plastic tip, gives you fatness but lots of ring so consider putting moongel or anything na makakapag- muffle... Pag 5A wood tip naman, dun maganda ang sound, ganda ng fatness, nice crack and nice ring...
Thanks sa advice bro,pero kakapalit ko lang ng batter heads ko eh.Anyway nakuha ko na tuning na gusto ko just give my time to tune it properly.Thanks :-D

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Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #303 on: January 11, 2012, 01:09:22 AM »
Buy a Drum DIAL!!! hahaha! swabeng swabe tono ng snare mo diyan. medyo costy nga lang   :mrgreen:

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« Reply #304 on: January 11, 2012, 04:03:53 PM »
Currently using an Evans EC1 Reverse Dot. And I'm satisfied. Ganda ng tunog nya kahit na sa isang cheapo snare drum siya nakasuot hehe. "Woody" ang dating. Ganda lalo nun attack sa gitna.


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Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #305 on: January 15, 2012, 03:52:36 PM »
Mga sir, pano po tanggalin yung "Pong or Tong" na sound sa snare w/o drum mute? Salamat po.

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« Reply #306 on: January 15, 2012, 11:42:48 PM »
guys anong magandang head para sa pdp 805? kabibili ko kasi kanina, and iniisip kong palitan bukas yung head niya. thanks!

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« Reply #307 on: January 18, 2012, 02:53:04 PM »
Mga sir, pano po tanggalin yung "Pong or Tong" na sound sa snare w/o drum mute? Salamat po.

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Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #308 on: January 18, 2012, 10:18:01 PM »
Moongel or Rem-0
Di po ba yun makukuha sa pag tono lang sir?

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« Reply #309 on: January 19, 2012, 08:20:08 AM »
Di po ba yun makukuha sa pag tono lang sir?

pwede pero konti lang... loosen up your batter head...

yung "tonk" sound kasi is produced if you have a tightly tuned batter head... especially for a steel snare or snare na mababaw and height...

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« Reply #310 on: July 06, 2014, 09:19:47 AM »
Question lang po mga ka drummers. What snare head should I get for my snare? I have a Tama Birch snare and I play punk/blues type of music  a la White Stripes/Black Keys/Foo Fighters type. Thanks for your input guys.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2014, 09:22:52 AM by ZherVin12 »

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« Reply #311 on: July 06, 2014, 09:27:03 PM »
Question lang po mga ka drummers. What snare head should I get for my snare? I have a Tama Birch snare and I play punk/blues type of music  a la White Stripes/Black Keys/Foo Fighters type. Thanks for your input guys.

Anung sound Muna ang gusto mo makuha?
Kasi you gave as your influence pero it doesn't mean na you like the sound they use.
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« Reply #312 on: July 08, 2014, 02:47:06 PM »
Good pm sir. Anong Evans ba ang maganda para sa gospel/rnb? Naka 12x7 at 14x5.5 ako na maple shell. Parehas sila naka Remo Ambassador coated at Ambassador Hazy sa baba. Gusto ko sana mag try ng evans since evans na yung heads ng toms ko. :) ano ba masasuggest niyo na Evans heads para sakin? Salamat sir!!! :)

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Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #313 on: July 08, 2014, 02:53:52 PM »
Good pm sir. Anong Evans ba ang maganda para sa gospel/rnb? Naka 12x7 at 14x5.5 ako na maple shell. Parehas sila naka Remo Ambassador coated at Ambassador Hazy sa baba. Gusto ko sana mag try ng evans since evans na yung heads ng toms ko. :) ano ba masasuggest niyo na Evans heads para sakin? Salamat sir!!! :)

Coated head na mejo makapal. Like G2 Coateds or yung may power center. :D
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« Reply #314 on: July 09, 2014, 09:55:45 AM »
Coated head na mejo makapal. Like G2 Coateds or yung may power center. :D

Hmmm. Ganto nalang sir. Yung 14x5.5 sana pang all around. Yung 12x7 gusto ko pang gospel talaga. Ano kayang skins ang maganda dito na Evans? Or mag stay nalang ako Remo ambassadors sa snare?
Ayoko sana yung G2 coated kasi 2-ply. Stick to 1 ply parin siguro ako. Hehe!!  :-D

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« Reply #315 on: July 09, 2014, 11:35:07 AM »
Hmmm. Ganto nalang sir. Yung 14x5.5 sana pang all around. Yung 12x7 gusto ko pang gospel talaga. Ano kayang skins ang maganda dito na Evans? Or mag stay nalang ako Remo ambassadors sa snare?
Ayoko sana yung G2 coated kasi 2-ply. Stick to 1 ply parin siguro ako. Hehe!!  :-D

yung 14 x 5.5, siguro try mo mag REMO Controlled Sound Reverse Dot. single ply siya, pero makapal sa gitna for less overtones and more focused attack.

Yung 12 x 7, stick with the ambassadors bro. can't go wrong with that. :)
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« Reply #316 on: July 09, 2014, 12:35:25 PM »
Focused sound is nice,planning to get one for my metal snare,pero ang dami gas,hehe,ehehe.
Pwede din ambassador x,ehehe,a little thicker than ambassadors.
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« Reply #317 on: July 09, 2014, 02:37:05 PM »
Hmmm. Ganto nalang sir. Yung 14x5.5 sana pang all around. Yung 12x7 gusto ko pang gospel talaga. Ano kayang skins ang maganda dito na Evans? Or mag stay nalang ako Remo ambassadors sa snare?
Ayoko sana yung G2 coated kasi 2-ply. Stick to 1 ply parin siguro ako. Hehe!!  :-D

alam ko ayaw mo ng double ply, but... Evans Onyx for the 14x5.5 :-D
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« Reply #318 on: July 09, 2014, 04:26:52 PM »
yung 14 x 5.5, siguro try mo mag REMO Controlled Sound Reverse Dot. single ply siya, pero makapal sa gitna for less overtones and more focused attack.

Yung 12 x 7, stick with the ambassadors bro. can't go wrong with that. :)

Sige sir. Salamat! Might stick to remo nalang.  :-D

Focused sound is nice,planning to get one for my metal snare,pero ang dami gas,hehe,ehehe.
Pwede din ambassador x,ehehe,a little thicker than ambassadors.

Pag mas makapal ba sir na head mas focused ang tunog saka bawas overtone? Naka Die-Cast hoops ako sa 14x5.5 ko eh.
Naka moongel lang ako pero pag walang moongel sobrang lakas ng overtone. Hehehe

alam ko ayaw mo ng double ply, but... Evans Onyx for the 14x5.5 :-D

How about EC Reverse Dot(2-ply) or EC1 Reverse Dot(1-ply) over Hazy 300? Gusto ko sana yung batter skin na medyo makakatanggal ng overtone para hindi na ako mag moongel.  :-D
Nagtatanong tanong palang ako pero pag hindi ako naconvince sa snare heads ng evans. Baka mag Remo nalang ako sa snares then Evans sa toms.  :-D

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« Reply #319 on: July 09, 2014, 04:43:48 PM »
Sige sir. Salamat! Might stick to remo nalang.  :-D

Pag mas makapal ba sir na head mas focused ang tunog saka bawas overtone? Naka Die-Cast hoops ako sa 14x5.5 ko eh.
Naka moongel lang ako pero pag walang moongel sobrang lakas ng overtone. Hehehe

How about EC Reverse Dot(2-ply) or EC1 Reverse Dot(1-ply) over Hazy 300? Gusto ko sana yung batter skin na medyo makakatanggal ng overtone para hindi na ako mag moongel.  :-D
Nagtatanong tanong palang ako pero pag hindi ako naconvince sa snare heads ng evans. Baka mag Remo nalang ako sa snares then Evans sa toms.  :-D



Pag mas makapal yes usually mas focused yung sound plus less overtones. but always remember na a thick head can sound dead lalo na in big venues except pag mic-ed ang snare mo. so weigh your options.

IMHO, 2ply plus reverse dot it already over kill. 1 ply coated with Reverse Dot nalang para you get the best of both worlds.

Moongels if applied to heavily can easily kill the snare's "oomph" factor. nawawalan ng dating yung tunog ng snare pag masyadong pinatay ang overtones by moongel. better to get a head with lesser overtones.

EC1 reverse dot na coated or Remo CS na reverse dot would be great options here.

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« Reply #320 on: July 09, 2014, 04:59:28 PM »
Sige sir. Salamat! Might stick to remo nalang.  :-D

Pag mas makapal ba sir na head mas focused ang tunog saka bawas overtone? Naka Die-Cast hoops ako sa 14x5.5 ko eh.
Naka moongel lang ako pero pag walang moongel sobrang lakas ng overtone. Hehehe

How about EC Reverse Dot(2-ply) or EC1 Reverse Dot(1-ply) over Hazy 300? Gusto ko sana yung batter skin na medyo makakatanggal ng overtone para hindi na ako mag moongel.  :-D
Nagtatanong tanong palang ako pero pag hindi ako naconvince sa snare heads ng evans. Baka mag Remo nalang ako sa snares then Evans sa toms.  :-D

sir word of caution lang...and i agree with sir ralph, it may sound as you described (sobrang overtone) at the drummer's point of hearing, but that sound may be perfectly fine sa side ng audience...a tad more of mufling may produce a dead sound sa audience...an evans genera dry/hd dry may sound fine without moongels...on the other hand, the thicker batter heads were introduced including those with reinforced centers, if i'm not mistaken, for heavy hitters/players because they're more durable...
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« Reply #321 on: July 09, 2014, 05:07:19 PM »
sir word of caution lang...and i agree with sir ralph, it may sound as you described (sobrang overtone) at the drummer's point of hearing, but that sound may be perfectly fine sa side ng audience...a tad more of mufling may produce a dead sound sa audience...an evans genera dry/hd dry may sound fine without moongels, the thicker batter heads were introduced including those with reinforced centers, if i'm not mistaken, for heavy hitters/players

Here here. i learned this the hard way when I played live in a stage. my snare had too much overtone on the drivers seat so I muffled it with moongels. when I heard the soundclips and videos of the gig, sobrang dead nung snare ko. nwala yung crisp, nawala yung attack. so, better judge from an audience point of view
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« Reply #322 on: July 09, 2014, 05:30:05 PM »
Sige sir. Salamat! Might stick to remo nalang.  :-D

Pag mas makapal ba sir na head mas focused ang tunog saka bawas overtone? Naka Die-Cast hoops ako sa 14x5.5 ko eh.
Naka moongel lang ako pero pag walang moongel sobrang lakas ng overtone. Hehehe

How about EC Reverse Dot(2-ply) or EC1 Reverse Dot(1-ply) over Hazy 300? Gusto ko sana yung batter skin na medyo makakatanggal ng overtone para hindi na ako mag moongel.  :-D
Nagtatanong tanong palang ako pero pag hindi ako naconvince sa snare heads ng evans. Baka mag Remo nalang ako sa snares then Evans sa toms.  :-D

Thicker/two ply heads usually means more focused sound and less overtones, however katulad ng sabi ni Ralph, sa audience POV mas dead sya kaysa sa naririnig mo.

I suggest getting the EC1 Reverse Dot or the Genera Dry, maybe even a Remo Ebony Ambassador as single ply options. Enough dampening to reduce overtones but less likely to kill your sound  because they're still fairly open. For two ply options, never go for dampened heads: Evans G2 Coated/Remo Coated Emperors are already very good and pretty popular choices. If you want a fat sound, I wouldn't go further than Evans Onyx or Remo Ebony Emperors. I have Evans Blue Hydraulics on my snare and while it still has overtones audible on at the driver's seat, it's waaaaaaaaaay dead to the audience (molasses

If you want to have an idea of how it might sound to the audience without leaving the kit, try wearing some ear protection and play the kit. I have Mack's Ear Plugs (P750 at True Value, pretty good investment!), and it translates the sound pretty well; but normal carpenter's earmuffs will do (P150-300 lang yan). Play the snare wearing them, that's probably how the audience hears it. "Less" overtones perceived.
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Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #323 on: July 09, 2014, 05:47:03 PM »
If you want to control the openness of its sound a bit, Genera Dry must do the action.. A controlled snare drum sound without applying moon gels or mufflers.. It has a built in muffler underneath the head that doesn't show visibly.. It also has tiny holes for a bit dryness.. Actually its pretty much for any genres.. I highly recommend Genera Dry.. I never tried and wasted money anymore finding my preferred sound when I have experienced this already..  :-D

sir jviado share ko lang yung advise ni sir musicianurse28 sa evans drumheads thread when i was in the same situation before (i see that you've posted there also)...i was consulting about the right head for a 14-inch maple snare with flanged hoops...i took his advise and i'm happy ever since : )...i hope you find the batter/snare head combination you're looking for...

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Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #324 on: July 09, 2014, 06:06:17 PM »
Thicker/two ply heads usually means more focused sound and less overtones, however katulad ng sabi ni Ralph, sa audience POV mas dead sya kaysa sa naririnig mo.

I suggest getting the EC1 Reverse Dot or the Genera Dry, maybe even a Remo Ebony Ambassador as single ply options. Enough dampening to reduce overtones but less likely to kill your sound  because they're still fairly open. For two ply options, never go for dampened heads: Evans G2 Coated/Remo Coated Emperors are already very good and pretty popular choices. If you want a fat sound, I wouldn't go further than Evans Onyx or Remo Ebony Emperors. I have Evans Blue Hydraulics on my snare and while it still has overtones audible on at the driver's seat, it's waaaaaaaaaay dead to the audience (molasses

If you want to have an idea of how it might sound to the audience without leaving the kit, try wearing some ear protection and play the kit. I have Mack's Ear Plugs (P750 at True Value, pretty good investment!), and it translates the sound pretty well; but normal carpenter's earmuffs will do (P150-300 lang yan). Play the snare wearing them, that's probably how the audience hears it. "Less" overtones perceived.

Mukhang EC1 siguro or Genera Dry over Hazy 300. Well hindi pa naman ako tumutugtog ng walang mic except sa bahay. Laging miced yung snare (Top and Bottom). Ano ba pinagkaiba ng Remo Ambassador sa EC1 Reverse Dot or EC Reverse Dot? I'm happy with my 12x7(Ambassador(Batter), Ambassador Hazy(Reso)).  :-D Pero yung sa 14x5.5 ko parang may kulang talaga. Hahahaha!! Meron rin akong earmuffs sir parang naka miced yung tunog niya para sakin.  :)

sir jviado share ko lang yung advise ni sir musicianurse28 sa evans drumheads thread when i was in the same situation before (i see that you've posted there also)...i was consulting about the right head for a 14-inch maple snare with flanged hoops...i took his advise and i'm happy ever since : )...i hope you find the batter/snare head combination you're looking for...

Sir naka die-cast hoops ako up and down sa 14x5.5 ko eh. Hehe. Oo sir nag post rin ako. Kayo sir? Ano ba gamit niyong batter/reso sa snare niyo? :-D nagpalit kasi ako heads ng toms ko from Remo to Evans so i'm thinking of changing my Snare heads to Evans na rin. Pero kung hindi ako maconvince sa evans heads. Play safe nalang ako and stay with Remo Ambassadors on my snares.   :)