VOX Pathfinder 15R - Review anyone?

[r_chino18]

Sir ano mas advisable na cab size? Newbie ako pagdating sa ganyan, hehehe... For church use po sana.

sa church gagamitin? hmm.. mass ba or parang mga worship jams?.. kasi kung mass, i would advise na PA nalang kesa cab para pwede marami ang maghati-hati dun.. pero kung tipong worship jam na para sa isang gitarista lang, it would still depend sa venue size..

kung hindi masyadong malaki, probably a 1x12" cab would do.. for bigger headroom, at pag mas malaki na room, edi 2x12" naman.. pero pag nasa field ang setting tapos cab lang at head ang meron (i mean, hindi miced ang amp then through a PA), 4x12" siguro..

pero you have to take into consideration kung ano gamit ng kasama mong gitarista (kung meron) at bassist mo, vocalist, etc.. baka kasi yung sayo sobrang lakas na eh ikaw lang maririnig.. kawawa naman sila.. dapat ipantay mo rin sa kung ano meron sila para balanced kayo.. it's not much in the gear but on how well you guys would blend on stage..   

wag lang sana sobrang liliit ng mga gamit nila..

[guitabot]

sa church gagamitin? hmm.. mass ba or parang mga worship jams?.. kasi kung mass, i would advise na PA nalang kesa cab para pwede marami ang maghati-hati dun.. pero kung tipong worship jam na para sa isang gitarista lang, it would still depend sa venue size..

kung hindi masyadong malaki, probably a 1x12" cab would do.. for bigger headroom, at pag mas malaki na room, edi 2x12" naman.. pero pag nasa field ang setting tapos cab lang at head ang meron (i mean, hindi miced ang amp then through a PA), 4x12" siguro..

pero you have to take into consideration kung ano gamit ng kasama mong gitarista (kung meron) at bassist mo, vocalist, etc.. baka kasi yung sayo sobrang lakas na eh ikaw lang maririnig.. kawawa naman sila.. dapat ipantay mo rin sa kung ano meron sila para balanced kayo.. it's not much in the gear but on how well you guys would blend on stage..   

wag lang sana sobrang liliit ng mga gamit nila..

For praise and worship po sir for weekends... By they way, may binebentang cab ba yung AP or other music store na fit sa Pathfinder? Anong brand po yung ok, again for church use.

Thanks

[r_chino18]

For praise and worship po sir for weekends... By they way, may binebentang cab ba yung AP or other music store na fit sa Pathfinder? Anong brand po yung ok, again for church use.

Thanks

basta ang kailangan mo lang tingan sa cab ay kung ano impedance niya.. sa pathfinder 8ohms yata dapat.. yes, meron sa AP na 4x12" cab.. Valveking at Windsor Cab yun.. yun yung around 12-15k if i'm not mistaken..
meron din ang behringer na 4x12", don't know the price pero i personally would not recommend that.. wag ka bibili ng cab just for the sake of getting a better headroom and having a cab.. you will buy a cab kasi gusto mo ng mas magandang sound quality at larger volumes and larger venues..

i think ok yung Valveking at Windsor cab..
try mo din ibang brands pero hindi ako sigurado kung san pa meron at kung ano price..

tingnan mo din muna bro kung 4x12" ba kelangan mo or kahit 1x12" lang oks na..

[dantuts]

Sir ano mas advisable na cab size? Newbie ako pagdating sa ganyan, hehehe... For church use po sana.

hmm.. why dont you consider miking your PF15R sa church ? less hassle..

[raybrig]

Quick question, as I'm about to buy my PF in just a few mins hehe. Kaya ba makipagsabayan ng PF15R sa drummer? Small gig venues lang naman

[markv]

^alternative genre pwedeng-pwede. Metal... baka mahirapan hehe

[Saturn/Return]

Quick question, as I'm about to buy my PF in just a few mins hehe. Kaya ba makipagsabayan ng PF15R sa drummer? Small gig venues lang naman

+1 with MarkV

Also.. With a drummer who's "light handed" in his playing, it won't be a problem and you will be heard especially in small venues. Also try to mount your amp above floor level para sure din, or better yet have it mic'd as well

[arkinet]

I use mine sa church, dude you can line it out to your PA system, me sarili ka pang monitor. Works perfectly for me.

[shredmonster]

basta ang kailangan mo lang tingan sa cab ay kung ano impedance niya.. sa pathfinder 8ohms yata dapat.. yes, meron sa AP na 4x12" cab.. Valveking at Windsor Cab yun.. yun yung around 12-15k if i'm not mistaken..
meron din ang behringer na 4x12", don't know the price pero i personally would not recommend that.. wag ka bibili ng cab just for the sake of getting a better headroom and having a cab.. you will buy a cab kasi gusto mo ng mas magandang sound quality at larger volumes and larger venues..

i think ok yung Valveking at Windsor cab..
try mo din ibang brands pero hindi ako sigurado kung san pa meron at kung ano price..

tingnan mo din muna bro kung 4x12" ba kelangan mo or kahit 1x12" lang oks na..

um nabasa ko sa net na buzzy daw ang mga speaker ng valveking at ung  windsor cab is muddy when played overdriven if im not mistaken but their heads are awesome but thats for another thread

[r_chino18]

Quick question, as I'm about to buy my PF in just a few mins hehe. Kaya ba makipagsabayan ng PF15R sa drummer? Small gig venues lang naman

ray, nakabili ka na siguro ng PF.. hehe.. yes, kayang-kaya niya makipag sabayan sa drummer.. here's my scenario.. we had a small battle of the bands sa church minsan..may mga nirentahang cheap cabs and amps pero malalaki.. mga 1x12..
i brought my PF kasi tingin ko kaya makipagsabayan pati less tweaking ng MFX.. naka multi pa kasi ako nun.. ayun, ang masasabi ko lang..

OWNING!!!!!  

haha.. kahit may mga 1x12s dun, rinig na rinig parin daw talaga yung sa PF sabi ng mga tao.. pati malinis.. hindi yung sabog at high volumes.. kaya kung volume lang, oo naman kaya makipag sabayan..

pag siguro mas malaking venues, handy rin na may extension cab ka for better headroom.. anyway, yung sa venue namin was an open space, hindi room or what.. tapos there were around 50-60 people yata.. ayun..  

[r_chino18]

um nabasa ko sa net na buzzy daw ang mga speaker ng valveking at ung  windsor cab is muddy when played overdriven if im not mistaken but their heads are awesome but thats for another thread

hindi ko pa talaga nattry bro pero it's better than behringer cabs.. to think na halos pare pareho lang sila ng price.. i think yung valveking cab has valveking speakers at yung windsor cab has blue marvel speakers..

pero i think, for the price nila, good buy na yun.. if you make your own cab with brand new celestion v30s or greenbacks, over the roof na siguro magagastos mo..
ayun bro.. bale ang akin lang, i think ok na buy yung valveking or windsor cabs for their price.. cheers!

OT: bili tayo.. akin valveking.. iyo windsor.. tapos compare tayo.. haha.. 

[kiiimpoiii]

i have pathfinder15r here... okie tlga xa....kumpara sa mga laney and marshalls na 30 watts..... masmgnda response kase ehh... ska hndi ngging sbog ung town.... ang ayoko lng sa vox..EQ nila.... 2 lng kxe.... madali i tweak kea lng xempre dba.... mas mgnda mas marami pra ung sound mo regulated tlga saka it blends...

i suggest kung bbili ka rin nmn ng cab.... buy a amp lng worth 8k.....E.G. orange.... or even DIY's or kht mga vintage fender amps or behringer amps( ok din ung amp nila) or kung mejo may pera.... un nga for a higher one.....

pagawa ka na lng ng cabinet..... tpos hanap ka sa raon ng loudspeaker na ang magnet alnico..... choose the desired diameter ng speaker.....

I think mas mgnda talaga ang lalabas pagka ganun...

try to find also Blackheart amps....

pero bro okie din yang ggwin mong style.... mas mura xa un nga lng konti n lng nmn idadagdag mo ehh dba???

go for the best one...... kht malaki nmn ung amp mo bsta marunong ka magcontrol na sasabay sa mga kasama mo is okie lng ehh

go for 8 inch and up para sumabay sa drummer

[burnthyfret]

guys. on my long journey to find a replacement for my marshall bedroom rockstar amp.. may nahanap akong pangtapat dito sa king of the solid state tone wise and value wise; the all new LANEY CUB 10. argh. magaamp shootout kami this week kun wala akong mga gigs between audiophile's pathfinder vs jb's laney CUB 10 all tube amp. haha. try kong magpost ng vid if ever. (buti friends ko yun both stores at friends din sila kaya i have the oportunity to test a lot of amps here) haha. pero if anyone encountered the LANEY CUB, please kindly test it and post your feedback as objectively as possible. haha.
 

[r_chino18]

guys. on my long journey to find a replacement for my marshall bedroom rockstar amp.. may nahanap akong pangtapat dito sa king of the solid state tone wise and value wise; the all new LANEY CUB 10. argh. magaamp shootout kami this week kun wala akong mga gigs between audiophile's pathfinder vs jb's laney CUB 10 all tube amp. haha. try kong magpost ng vid if ever. (buti friends ko yun both stores at friends din sila kaya i have the oportunity to test a lot of amps here) haha. pero if anyone encountered the LANEY CUB, please kindly test it and post your feedback as objectively as possible. haha.
 

bro may magandang demo niyan sa youtube.. i would have to agree based on what i hear na ok pangtapat ang Cub10 sa PF15.. pero syempre magkaiba naman sila, isa solid state, isa tube.. pero for the price.. mapapa-isip ka talaga kung alin sa dalawa.. halos magkaprice lang yung Cub8 pati PF15..

then again.. sabi ko nalang sa sarili ko, if i were to get a tube amp, yung mismo na.. kahit 2nd hand.. tapos may built-in na attenuator.. oks narin yun.. pati kung magttube amp ako, my main reason would be for the great drives when pushing tubes.. pag nagkaganun, aanhin ko pa drive pedals ko?.. hehe.. so i'll stick with my PF for the meantime.. sana wag pa muna tamaan ng tube amp gas.. wag muna.. haha..

here's the link bro..

[burnthyfret]

bro may magandang demo niyan sa youtube.. i would have to agree based on what i hear na ok pangtapat ang Cub10 sa PF15.. pero syempre magkaiba naman sila, isa solid state, isa tube.. pero for the price.. mapapa-isip ka talaga kung alin sa dalawa.. halos magkaprice lang yung Cub8 pati PF15..

then again.. sabi ko nalang sa sarili ko, if i were to get a tube amp, yung mismo na.. kahit 2nd hand.. tapos may built-in na attenuator.. oks narin yun.. pati kung magttube amp ako, my main reason would be for the great drives when pushing tubes.. pag nagkaganun, aanhin ko pa drive pedals ko?.. hehe.. so i'll stick with my PF for the meantime.. sana wag pa muna tamaan ng tube amp gas.. wag muna.. haha..

here's the link bro..

thanks for the links bro, but i've watch it na several times and was able to play with one actually, unfortunately, i didn't bring my pedals with me that time so i have no idea how this amp is on accepting pedals. hehe. actually, i like it's simple design, 3 knobs, very simple. hehe. as i've said, i'm looking only for a practice amp and dang.. this amp and the pathfinder is really two great amp that are both bang for the buck. only problem with pathfinder is that i's so hard to find sometimes. haha. etong laney naman kaya siguro nagkalat pa is bagong labas  palang siya sa market natin. hehe.  so i guess my main concern would be, how well this amp is on accepting pedals. hehe.

[r_chino18]

thanks for the links bro, but i've watch it na several times and was able to play with one actually, unfortunately, i didn't bring my pedals with me that time so i have no idea how this amp is on accepting pedals. hehe. actually, i like it's simple design, 3 knobs, very simple. hehe. as i've said, i'm looking only for a practice amp and dang.. this amp and the pathfinder is really two great amp that are both bang for the buck. only problem with pathfinder is that i's so hard to find sometimes. haha. etong laney naman kaya siguro nagkalat pa is bagong labas  palang siya sa market natin. hehe.  so i guess my main concern would be, how well this amp is on accepting pedals. hehe.

mismo.. bago palang kaya marami pang stock.. pero i don't want to get into the hype.. antay ko muna na magkaroon muna ng maraming reviews.. like yun nga, how well it accepts pedals.. we've seen and heard how it goes.. next question would be on reliability and hardware issues (if any).. antay nalang muna ng reviews para sakin.. and in time, if it has proven it's worth, then might consider getting one too..

i was struck by that hype narin kasi.. with my marshall MG.. dati pag nakita mong Marshl, ang initial reaction ay, "WOAH! holy grail of amps.. marshall eh..".. so bili naman agad ako nung MG.. just because of the name.. ayun.. found out sooner or later na for the price, i could've gotten a better amp.. haha.. lesson learned tuloy ako.. 

[burnthyfret]

mismo.. bago palang kaya marami pang stock.. pero i don't want to get into the hype.. antay ko muna na magkaroon muna ng maraming reviews.. like yun nga, how well it accepts pedals.. we've seen and heard how it goes.. next question would be on reliability and hardware issues (if any).. antay nalang muna ng reviews para sakin.. and in time, if it has proven it's worth, then might consider getting one too..

i was struck by that hype narin kasi.. with my marshall MG.. dati pag nakita mong Marshl, ang initial reaction ay, "WOAH! holy grail of amps.. marshall eh..".. so bili naman agad ako nung MG.. just because of the name.. ayun.. found out sooner or later na for the price, i could've gotten a better amp.. haha.. lesson learned tuloy ako.. 

same here pare. haha. MG sucks.
yeah, i wish na madagdagan ang review regarding this amp, pero kun hindi tayo, sino? haha.
kahit nga sa internet you'll see na bago palang talaga tong amp na to kaya wala pa masyado makapagcomment sa kanya, pero overall naman, maganda ang mga review ng mga first timer sa amp na to. hehe. duh.. bago e. hype mode. haha.
but honestly, if you've tried it, you;ll hear na ang warm ng tunog niya and it really has this characteristic of tube amps, duh.. tube nga pala siya. but wait.. i remember there's a small fender  all tube amp which unfortunately didn't sound too well imo. so depende pa rin talga yan e. hmm.. hirap noh? haha.

calling sir markv who introduced me sa pathfinder. sir, try nyo naman tong amp na to minsan o. haha.

oh yeah.. on the topic of hype.. pag etong laney cub ang nauso, i'm sure marami ang magbebenta ng mga pathfinder nila jan. haha.

[r_chino18]

same here pare. haha. MG sucks.
yeah, i wish na madagdagan ang review regarding this amp, pero kun hindi tayo, sino? haha.
kahit nga sa internet you'll see na bago palang talaga tong amp na to kaya wala pa masyado makapagcomment sa kanya, pero overall naman, maganda ang mga review ng mga first timer sa amp na to. hehe. duh.. bago e. hype mode. haha.
but honestly, if you've tried it, you;ll hear na ang warm ng tunog niya and it really has this characteristic of tube amps, duh.. tube nga pala siya. but wait.. i remember there's a small fender  all tube amp which unfortunately didn't sound too well imo. so depende pa rin talga yan e. hmm.. hirap noh? haha.

calling sir markv who introduced me sa pathfinder. sir, try nyo naman tong amp na to minsan o. haha.

oh yeah.. on the topic of hype.. pag etong laney cub ang nauso, i'm sure marami ang magbebenta ng mga pathfinder nila jan. haha.

haha.. kung hindi tayo, SILA... 
makikijoin nalang tayo pag sa tingin nila ay ok.. haha..
ah basta, pag nauso to.. hindi ko ibebenta pathfinder ko.. gagawin ko acoutic amp or mic amp or speaker ng laptop.. haha..

pero yung MG ko has Eminence OEM na made in USA.. really surprised to see that.. yung mga MG ngayon celestions na i don't know kung san gawa.. pero i was a little glad kasi made in usa speakers nia.. kung may MG ka, try mo gawin open back.. you'll hear the difference.. mababawasan yung pagiging masyadong scooped ng mids dahil closed back.. ginawa na nga ng kapatid ko na pedal board yung back panel nun eh.. haha..

warm din ang PF... at least for me, pag 12'o clock tung tone at bass settings..
yes, hype mode talaga.. may parating din na kalaban yang Cub10.. yung Vox AC4TC head+cad or combo version.. konti lang din difference.. i think meron nang ilan na meron nun..
still, i'm relying on my trusty PF.. extension cab ang gusto ko.. haha.. 

[burnthyfret]

ang hirap maghanap ng amp ngayon sa dami ng magaganda at sa mas marami pang panget. argh!! haha.
btw, what's the "attenuator" - i know it has something to do with the tubes right? haha

[r_chino18]

ang hirap maghanap ng amp ngayon sa dami ng magaganda at sa mas marami pang panget. argh!! haha.
btw, what's the "attenuator" - i know it has something to do with the tubes right? haha

in layman's term..
di ba pag gusto mo maging distorted na yung sound sa amp, you need to push the tubes hard and kick the gain knob high?.. pag ganun, more volume din most of the time.. ang alam ko sa attenuator, it's something that keeps your volume low while having that pushed tube drive.. parang pang bedroom practice pero *chug chugan* parin with the tubes..

attenuator-- a device which reduces the strength of a radio or audio signal (dictionary meaning)

[burnthyfret]

in layman's term..
di ba pag gusto mo maging distorted na yung sound sa amp, you need to push the tubes hard and kick the gain knob high?.. pag ganun, more volume din most of the time.. ang alam ko sa attenuator, it's something that keeps your volume low while having that pushed tube drive.. parang pang bedroom practice pero *chug chugan* parin with the tubes..

attenuator-- a device which reduces the strength of a radio or audio signal (dictionary meaning)

iba pba yun sa volume knob nun amp mismo kasi separate yun gain at volume knob ng laney cub e. hehe. thanks sa sagot pala.

[r_chino18]

iba pba yun sa volume knob nun amp mismo kasi separate yun gain at volume knob ng laney cub e. hehe. thanks sa sagot pala.

kasi normally yung mga attenuator a built-in sa amp, parang swith.. kunwari 20 watts tube amp mo.. tapos ay switch siya na parang gagawin na 1/2 watts, 5 watts, and so on na lower sa 20.. parang ganun.. heven't personally tried it pero sa alam ko more or less ganun ang concept.. 

[burnthyfret]

kasi normally yung mga attenuator a built-in sa amp, parang swith.. kunwari 20 watts tube amp mo.. tapos ay switch siya na parang gagawin na 1/2 watts, 5 watts, and so on na lower sa 20.. parang ganun.. heven't personally tried it pero sa alam ko more or less ganun ang concept.. 

ah ok ok. wala ngang ganun yun laney cub. but than again, the cub comes in 8 and 10 watts. parang imo, they can survive without sa said attenuator. hehe.

[Red_Strat]

The Cub10 has a gain knob & master volume. So I think, even without an attenuator, you can get those cranked tones without having a policeman knocking at your door. 

[raybrig]

Big and small voxes!


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