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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2009, 02:15:33 AM »
...and i bought the 85 1.4 for the autofocus to keep up with my boy.

I WAS WRONG.   It was still slow......INDOORS.

The only shot of him that i was happy with :oops:
Ang daming shots na sana ang gaganda pero OOF.


Here is my favorite spot at second na paborito na still subject.

ISO640...wide open.

Not much difference with the 50 1.4MF. above, maybe just a tad slower sa shutter but still not a big gap.

I have a lot of learning to do.

Any tips?
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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2009, 08:30:52 AM »
...and i bought the 85 1.4 for the autofocus to keep up with my boy.

I WAS WRONG.   It was still slow......INDOORS.

The only shot of him that i was happy with :oops:
Ang daming shots na sana ang gaganda pero OOF.


Here is my favorite spot at second na paborito na still subject.

ISO640...wide open.

Not much difference with the 50 1.4MF. above, maybe just a tad slower sa shutter but still not a big gap.

I have a lot of learning to do.

Any tips?
buy another lens  :lol:

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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2009, 08:36:33 AM »
buy another lens  :lol:


My wife will kill me :lol:
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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2009, 09:21:13 AM »
85 f1.4 wow. hanggang panagarap lang maafford ko ang prime na yan. anyhow prime user ako sa d80 ko(50 1.8). primes are the fastet lens you can get. ito usually ginagamit ko pag ndi well lit yung room:

set mo to aperture priority. tapos lagay mo iso ng mga 1000 to 1250, since naka prime ka naman ndi ganong kalala noise niya lalo na at f1.4. then set your pop up flash to manual then select mo yung pinaka mahinang power(1/128).

pag gusto mo ng full control talaga:
set to manual mode. basta make sure na ang shutter mo ay ndi baba sa 1/focal lentgh so sa iyo 1/85 pero since wala namang 1/85, at least nasa 1/80 or 1/100 ka and sure na sharp yan(assuming you have normal steady arms)

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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2009, 12:45:31 PM »
ano ba yung slow? yung pag autofocus ng 85mm?


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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2009, 02:07:59 AM »
ano ba yung slow? yung pag autofocus ng 85mm?

Yup.

Pretty slow for a hyper 17 month old kid :-D
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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2009, 02:09:51 AM »
85 f1.4 wow. hanggang panagarap lang maafford ko ang prime na yan. anyhow prime user ako sa d80 ko(50 1.8). primes are the fastet lens you can get. ito usually ginagamit ko pag ndi well lit yung room:

set mo to aperture priority. tapos lagay mo iso ng mga 1000 to 1250, since naka prime ka naman ndi ganong kalala noise niya lalo na at f1.4. then set your pop up flash to manual then select mo yung pinaka mahinang power(1/128).

pag gusto mo ng full control talaga:
set to manual mode. basta make sure na ang shutter mo ay ndi baba sa 1/focal lentgh so sa iyo 1/85 pero since wala namang 1/85, at least nasa 1/80 or 1/100 ka and sure na sharp yan(assuming you have normal steady arms)

Manual control plus shutter speed na 1/80 or 1/100.

Kapisch....will try.

Thanks.
O Rose, Thou art sick! The invisible worm that flies in the night, In the howling storm, Has found out thy bed of crimson joy: and his dark secret love, Does thy life destroy.   

William Blake, The Sick Rose

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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2009, 02:26:33 AM »
Here is the lens with the ISO jacked up.

Group shot f2.8 at the rest wide open.





O Rose, Thou art sick! The invisible worm that flies in the night, In the howling storm, Has found out thy bed of crimson joy: and his dark secret love, Does thy life destroy.   

William Blake, The Sick Rose

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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2009, 02:45:21 AM »
ano ba yung slow? yung pag autofocus ng 85mm?

Yes and a bit no.

I can do shots wherein fast shutter and sharp ang kuha pero under exposed and vice versa.

Also the autofocus together sa d80 tsaka sa lens is a bit slow compared to my
18-70mm dx lens.

Haayy upgraded the lens NOW feeling like dapat upgrade rin ang katawan.

Alam ko itong feeling na ito all too well :oops:
O Rose, Thou art sick! The invisible worm that flies in the night, In the howling storm, Has found out thy bed of crimson joy: and his dark secret love, Does thy life destroy.   

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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2009, 02:48:38 AM »
Here are some more shots wide open.


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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2009, 09:44:13 AM »
Yes and a bit no.

I can do shots wherein fast shutter and sharp ang kuha pero under exposed and vice versa.

Also the autofocus together sa d80 tsaka sa lens is a bit slow compared to my
18-70mm dx lens.

Haayy upgraded the lens NOW feeling like dapat upgrade rin ang katawan.

Alam ko itong feeling na ito all too well :oops:
what mode are you using?
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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2009, 12:16:32 PM »
AF-C most of the time bro.
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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2009, 03:37:11 PM »
imo, grabe soft ng mga images mo. which is weird, dapat tact sharp sila. brandnew niyo po ba nabili?
try using AF-A, madedetermince naman ng cam kung anong af dapat gamitin.

try niyo po mag shoot ng maliwanag, try shooting at f1.4 to f4.  primes should be really sharp lalo na at f4.

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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2009, 01:58:30 AM »
imo, grabe soft ng mga images mo. which is weird, dapat tact sharp sila. brandnew niyo po ba nabili?
try using AF-A, madedetermince naman ng cam kung anong af dapat gamitin.

try niyo po mag shoot ng maliwanag, try shooting at f1.4 to f4.  primes should be really sharp lalo na at f4.

Yup bago pre.

I think ako lang ang may learning curve. Its still a joy to use and im still on my 1.4-2.8 phase. Basta di gumagalaw yung subject sharp sya even wide open and when you frame the subject at the center of the frame.

Those uploaded pics look a lot better before i upload them so maybe its the conversion or compressing thats happening. What do you call that anyway.
They look much better on my hard drive.

Yung 50 1.4 manual focus had the same problem but maybe dahil sa focal length nya mas mabilis pa rin sya. I was just disappointed sa autofocus nya....mabagal pa rin for a toddler running around.

I bought it for that reason in the first place...i can blame the d80 for this i guess.

O Rose, Thou art sick! The invisible worm that flies in the night, In the howling storm, Has found out thy bed of crimson joy: and his dark secret love, Does thy life destroy.   

William Blake, The Sick Rose

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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2009, 09:48:36 AM »
hmm things you can do, kung under warranty pa yung lens, have it calibrated with your body. ganito ginawa ko sa kit lens ko dati and ganda ng naging result, faster focusing, sharper images.

pwede ding bumili ka ng cheap na flash(nissin di622, sunpak, nikon sb-600, basta pwedeng ma rotate)


mabilis na talaga dapat ang prime pero kung hindi ka pa rin satisfied, sell your 85mm and get a sigma 24-70 hsm or 70-200hsm. ang bilis na nung motor niyan or dagdag ka pa ng konti and get those fast nikkors with vr and motors.
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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2009, 02:20:26 PM »
try to use  a tripod and focus on something, timplahin mong maigi yung settings para ma-achieve mo yung gusto mong makuha. or better use a flash, para hindi maunder expose or maover expose ang subject.


kung ganun pa rin eh baka kailangan pacalibrate ang lens.. IMHO lang po

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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2009, 09:41:16 PM »
ayos ng shots.  :lol:
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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2009, 11:58:11 PM »
hmm things you can do, kung under warranty pa yung lens, have it calibrated with your body. ganito ginawa ko sa kit lens ko dati and ganda ng naging result, faster focusing, sharper images.

pwede ding bumili ka ng cheap na flash(nissin di622, sunpak, nikon sb-600, basta pwedeng ma rotate)


mabilis na talaga dapat ang prime pero kung hindi ka pa rin satisfied, sell your 85mm and get a sigma 24-70 hsm or 70-200hsm. ang bilis na nung motor niyan or dagdag ka pa ng konti and get those fast nikkors with vr and motors.

Yeah i was thinking of the calibrating thing pero i just had it for a week so ill just soldier along for now.

Was thinking of those lenses youve mentioned but i really fell in love with the 85 1.4.

Hopefully in the near future with lots of trial and error.....will open itself up :-D

Thanks sa comments pre.
O Rose, Thou art sick! The invisible worm that flies in the night, In the howling storm, Has found out thy bed of crimson joy: and his dark secret love, Does thy life destroy.   

William Blake, The Sick Rose

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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2009, 09:41:12 AM »
i struggled with my 35mm prime too but i found out that i get the sharpest images using the lowest ISO setting possible and i've turned the auto-ISO off too.

i never needed to go higher than 800 and im at 200 90% of the time. d40 lang pala gamit ko. im using shutter priority kapag madilim yung lugar tapos P mode kung mabilisan

my 2 cents...


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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2009, 08:03:13 PM »
uy! d80 ayus yan! welcome to the dark side!  :-D
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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2009, 06:55:53 PM »
wow sana  may money im gonna buy that

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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2009, 11:54:56 AM »
You may wana check your distance from you subject. 85mm is really created for portraits. it would have difficulty to focus its near.

Sir you my wanna try to set  your focus point manually, metering indoors use Spot then Aperture priority keep iso below 800. Be aware of the focus distance of you lens.

85mm 1.4 is an awesome lens..

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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2009, 12:09:20 AM »
You may wana check your distance from you subject. 85mm is really created for portraits. it would have difficulty to focus its near.

Sir you my wanna try to set  your focus point manually, metering indoors use Spot then Aperture priority keep iso below 800. Be aware of the focus distance of you lens.

85mm 1.4 is an awesome lens..

Yeah bro. Its pretty awesome when shooting static subjects. Mabagal lang sa kiti kiti ko na anak.

Im pretty aware that it is a short telephoto lens with the d80 and its small depth of field wide open.

Ive had success using the built-in flash though.

Its all good......at the moment.

« Last Edit: June 02, 2009, 01:28:18 AM by pallas »
O Rose, Thou art sick! The invisible worm that flies in the night, In the howling storm, Has found out thy bed of crimson joy: and his dark secret love, Does thy life destroy.   

William Blake, The Sick Rose

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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2009, 09:32:01 AM »
Photographing Kids is really one of the hardest thing to do in photography But once you captured the moment... THE BEST...  :mrgreen:

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Re: God gave me a D80, The devil made me do something else...
« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2009, 09:41:23 PM »


nice subject.. and i love the bokeh!!!  :wink: