Author Topic: Crell CA-20 vs. Soundstandard CA-20 (Read 42480 times)

Bellissima · « **on:** April 16, 2009, 10:02:58 AM »

Hi, meron na po ba sa inyong nakasubok na ng mga power amps na'to? Kindly give your feedback kasi balak kong bumili ng 1 sa mga 'to. Pero di ko alam kung alin ang mas ok ang performance. May mga nabasa ako na forum na mas ok daw ang Crell, yung iba nmn sabi mas ok daw yung Soundstandard. Sana po may mga music gurus na mag-share ng feedback nila sa topic na'to kasi it will really help me to decide.

skyjammer · « **Reply #1 on:** April 16, 2009, 06:43:11 PM »

Quote from: Bellissima on April 16, 2009, 10:02:58 AM

Hi, meron na po ba sa inyong nakasubok na ng mga power amps na'to? Kindly give your feedback kasi balak kong bumili ng 1 sa mga 'to. Pero di ko alam kung alin ang mas ok ang performance. May mga nabasa ako na forum na mas ok daw ang Crell, yung iba nmn sabi mas ok daw yung Soundstandard. Sana po may mga music gurus na mag-share ng feedback nila sa topic na'to kasi it will really help me to decide.

As far as I know they're the sam -- literally. Soundstandard CA-20 becomes Crell CA-20 in the philippines. Soundstandard is cheaper if purchased in China (and you can't find Crell there).

DJdave · « **Reply #2 on:** January 14, 2011, 02:04:41 PM »

@skyjammer

wala ka makikitang crell sa china bec. sariling tatak lng yun parang kevler. Crell is just an imitation of soundstandard. soundstandard ang may pinakamalaking factory sa china. yun ibang company dun kumokopya sa soundstandard then nilalagay nila sariling brand parang
Cdr-king.

barracks01 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 14, 2011, 02:39:31 PM »

Quote from: skyjammer on April 16, 2009, 06:43:11 PM

As far as I know they're the sam -- literally. Soundstandard CA-20 becomes Crell CA-20 in the philippines. Soundstandard is cheaper if purchased in China (and you can't find Crell there).

tama..dito lang yan sa pinas ang crell. malamang dito na rin yan tinatakan.

eirol_99 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 14, 2011, 05:42:13 PM »

sir baka pina oem ng crell sa soundstandard ng mga businessman dito then tinatakan na,, meron nga sa UK DarQ ata ang tatak ng CA series

barracks01 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 14, 2011, 05:49:27 PM »

Quote from: eirol_99 on January 14, 2011, 05:42:13 PM

sir baka pina oem ng crell sa soundstandard ng mga businessman dito then tinatakan na,, meron nga sa UK DarQ ata ang tatak ng CA series

hawahawa na ba pati europe

DJdave · « **Reply #6 on:** January 14, 2011, 09:11:23 PM »

Quote from: eirol_99 on January 14, 2011, 05:42:13 PM

sir baka pina oem ng crell sa soundstandard ng mga businessman dito then tinatakan na,, meron nga sa UK DarQ ata ang tatak ng CA series

No, di gawa/OEM ng soundstandard ang crell. malayo performance nila. crell kasi nag dc out. karamihan ng small factory sa china ginagaya ang soundstandard then yun mga business men dito sa pinas/UK naglalagay ng sariling brand. ni di mo makikita sa exibit sa ibang bansa ang crell,

eto official website ng soundstandard. http://www.saeaudio.com/products_detail.aspx?id=9&zhu=4 sila ang original na CA series.

eirol_99 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 14, 2011, 09:53:48 PM »

kevler website http://www.kevlerpro.com/index.php

mants · « **Reply #8 on:** January 14, 2011, 11:40:12 PM »

crell is distributed by Kolin electronics,, http://www.kolin.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=50&Itemid=97

TheHunter · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2011, 01:35:42 AM »

I don't recommend Crell amp...maybe if you use for mid

DJdave · « **Reply #10 on:** January 15, 2011, 09:30:22 AM »

good to hear na may ginawa narin pala silang website. but still crell & other brand of CA series is just an imitation of sounstandard. malalaman nyo yan pag galing kayo ng china. ni di nga kilala ang crell sa china.

@TheHunter tama ka, dami kong nakilala na mobile na binenta yun crell nila.isa lng sagot nila kung bakit nila benta yun amp. ""DC out""

@Bellissima
soundstandard ang the best choice.

mr. ultimate · « **Reply #11 on:** January 15, 2011, 09:58:24 AM »

Mga sir hindi pareho ang factory ng crell at sound standard magkaiba sila oem ang crell ibang brand sa china
Ang sound standard yun na ang ginamit na brand nang importer , hindi pareho ang design ng dalawang amp
Mas stable ang sound standard pero hindi ganon ka lakas pero safe ang speaker mo, ang crell mas malakas pero malakas din masunog ang speaker niyo, pili na kayo sa gusto niyo

spacejam · « **Reply #12 on:** January 15, 2011, 11:41:18 AM »

Quote from: barracks01 on January 14, 2011, 05:49:27 PM

hawahawa na ba pati europe

sir barracks halos lahat ng parte ng Mundo china products na.... Mura labor and walang union kc communist country kay a walang strike....magaling kumopya ang mga factory ng china, bill Lang branded copy na nila... Sa quality na Lang ng components nagkakaiba and konti change Lang sa branded due to patent reasons.... Peo halos 90% copy nilA.... Punts k Lang sa roan

damming kamukha ng rcf jbl plastic speaker doon

....
Ang china maraming oem factory na pang European and US standard.... D Lang pinaparating ng importers kc mahal.... Kung konti Lang difference kasi sa branded ang price.... Syempre sa branded tayong lahat

spacejam · « **Reply #13 on:** January 16, 2011, 07:17:30 AM »

Quote from: DJdave on January 15, 2011, 09:30:22 AM

good to hear na may ginawa narin pala silang website. but still crell & other brand of CA series is just an imitation of sounstandard. malalaman nyo yan pag galing kayo ng china. ni di nga kilala ang crell sa china. sariling brand lng yun ng kolin gaya ng ibang appliances nila.

@TheHunter tama ka, dami kong nakilala na mobile na binenta yun crell nila.isa lng sagot nila kung bakit nila benta yun amp. ""DC out""

@Bellissima
soundstandard ang the best choice.

sir magkaibang company ang kolin na appliances sa kolin na speaker And amplifier
Ito naman po ang website ng appliance
http://www.kolinphil.com.ph/company/kolin_taiwan

triciaaruba · « **Reply #14 on:** January 16, 2011, 02:24:55 PM »

iba po

CodeOne · « **Reply #15 on:** January 16, 2011, 11:22:23 PM »

Well as far as i know ang orig na ''CA" amps ay gawa po ng ''Crest Audio''... Imitated but not equaled.. IMHO...

spacejam · « **Reply #16 on:** January 17, 2011, 09:13:32 AM »

Quote from: CodeOne on January 16, 2011, 11:22:23 PM

Well as far as i know ang orig na ''CA" amps ay gawa po ng ''Crest Audio''... Imitated but not equaled.. IMHO...

Yes may mosfet transistor daw ang CA series ng crest audio

eirol_99 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 17, 2011, 04:49:01 PM »

Quote from: spacejam on January 17, 2011, 09:13:32 AM

Yes may mosfet transistor daw ang CA series ng crest audio

yung mosfets, six pcs per positive and negative high rail voltages, are used sa voltage step switching circuit nya kasi class H yung crest audio CA, 7 pairs ang output power transistors nya,

amplifier internal can be seen here.. http://forum.speakerplans.com/the-amplifier-internals-thread_topic23787.html

pedge22 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 20, 2011, 05:59:58 PM »

Sino po ba ang dealer ng Soundstandard dito sa pinas at magkano kaya ang CA20 nila?

willy caloocan · « **Reply #19 on:** January 22, 2011, 07:29:55 AM »

mga sir,ito lng po ang masasabi ko about sa crell,lalo na yng CA 25,malakas ang ang mga crell,nasubukan kong gumamit ng CA 25,1,100 something ang watts nyan at 8 ohms,cguro kailanagn lng gamitin ng tamaang load,kung hanggat maari 4 ohms lng,kc d nman ganon ka stable sa 2 ohms load ang mga gawang china dba,like ng mga branded na power amp,and cguro yng tamang design na rin ng enclosure mo at transducer,yng fit din sa amp....

king_james · « **Reply #20 on:** January 22, 2011, 06:50:50 PM »

Quote from: willy caloocan on January 22, 2011, 07:29:55 AM

mga sir,ito lng po ang masasabi ko about sa crell,lalo na yng CA 25,malakas ang ang mga crell,nasubukan kong gumamit ng CA 25,1,100 something ang watts nyan at 8 ohms,cguro kailanagn lng gamitin ng tamaang load,kung hanggat maari 4 ohms lng,kc d nman ganon ka stable sa 2 ohms load ang mga gawang china dba,like ng mga branded na power amp,and cguro yng tamang design na rin ng enclosure mo at transducer,yng fit din sa amp....

I think only a few branded power amplifiers can really handle low impedance loading - Crown, QSC, Lab Gruppen, Crest Audio etc. are proven to be stable under these circumstances. Let's remember that modern 18" drivers are designed below 8 ohms - usually around the 5 ohms area. When you do the usual parallel patching, your 18" drivers are actually working around the 2.5 ohms range. This is the breaking point on most common China amps whether it's a Crell or Soundstandard.

mr. ultimate · « **Reply #21 on:** January 25, 2011, 12:36:58 AM »

Demo ng live sa battle amp 8pcs naka load sa battle amp test nila kung kaya 2 ohms load 1 hour nila testing walang nasira

luffy · « **Reply #22 on:** January 25, 2011, 06:10:04 AM »

Quote from: mr. ultimate on January 25, 2011, 12:36:58 AM

Demo ng live sa battle amp 8pcs naka load sa battle amp test nila kung kaya 2 ohms load 1 hour nila testing walang nasira

2 ohms, but what is the power rating of the subs being used in RMS, or what brand of speaker? anong type ng box ang ginamit, ang horn length, or is it orig design or not? sensiya na, one amp will sound differently in different box enclosures - specifically responding to the compression ratio between speaker and the box's throat. i am also interested in the different types of amps pouring into the Phil coming from China. a good amp's secret is 2 ohms stable and of course, good service and support. this is just me.

mr. ultimate · « **Reply #23 on:** January 25, 2011, 09:18:23 AM »

2 ohms, but what is the power rating of the subs being used in RMS, or what brand of speaker? anong type ng box ang ginamit, ang horn length, or is it orig design or not? sensiya na, one amp will sound differently in different box enclosures - specifically responding to the compression ratio between speaker and the box's throat. i am also interested in the different types of amps pouring into the Phil coming from China. a good amp's secret is 2 ohms stable and of course, good service and support. this is just me.

They use live sub 18.5 8 pcs 5 inch in out 4 layer vc 6.5 ohms , they are try to destroy the amp but the amp works fine didnt break down if you want the spec i can give it to you, battle amp was design by a french guy who gave it to a china factory to assembly it design was different from others

mr. ultimate · « **Reply #24 on:** January 25, 2011, 09:38:22 AM »

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx175/super5digital/securedownload1.jpg
Battle amp 1.0 3000W@ 4 ohms

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Author Topic: Crell CA-20 vs. Soundstandard CA-20 (Read 42480 times)