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Offline mang_disto

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« on: April 26, 2006, 10:29:18 AM »
guys tanong ko lng kung anu pinag kaiba ng solid state amp, tube amps, at pre-amp? my mga nababasa kc ako dito sa forum na ganun, ndi ako makarelate, basta ang alam ko sa amp ung pag saksak ng gitara e dun lalabas ung tunog....sori guys maliit lang kc knowledge ko kya pag pasensyahan nyo n mga studpid questions ko.... :(

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2006, 10:33:19 AM »
guys, konting lamig ng ulo... hehehe :D

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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2006, 10:38:06 AM »
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Offline Letour

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2006, 12:36:46 PM »
Quote from: Phil
http://www.geofex.com/tubeampfaq/taffram.htm


Great link. But as I posted this in another forum, I wanted to find out why tube amps are more expensive. It's old technology and I know that the patents on the electronics have expired and it would be harder to prove novelty on newer patent applications.

So, I have this theory that tube amps are made to be more expensive for the purists. Solid state amps and digital modeling should be more expensive because of the R&D involve.

Does my theory hold water?
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Offline stratman1

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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2006, 12:40:04 PM »
Quote from: mang_disto
guys, konting lamig ng ulo... hehehe :D


Wow... pre-emptive strike. I like that, hehe :lol:


Offline kaloyster

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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2006, 01:22:22 PM »
honga nagtataka din aco, bakit ba ang tube amps lintik ang presyo?
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Offline Ag3nt

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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2006, 01:23:55 PM »
ask oasyabang, he knows everything. just don't argue when he answers, like i said.. HE KNOWS EVERYTHING.

Offline teleclem

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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2006, 01:38:28 PM »
Hope i can help..  :)

Tubes: Well masmahal nga.. They sound different from solid states.. And i mean different..  :)  iba ang pagproduce niya ng sound, warmer, rounder(at least for me), fuller.. nakukuha niya lahat ng nuances of your playing.. meaning more defined.. mas accentuated ang notes and stuff..
thay're also harder to maintain, use (parang).. you gotta be more careful when you handle them..

Always wanted a tube amp..  :)  Fender twin reverb.. GAS..

Offline deltaslim

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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2006, 02:03:45 PM »
Quote from: Letour
Quote from: Phil
http://www.geofex.com/tubeampfaq/taffram.htm


Great link. But as I posted this in another forum, I wanted to find out why tube amps are more expensive. It's old technology and I know that the patents on the electronics have expired and it would be harder to prove novelty on newer patent applications.

So, I have this theory that tube amps are made to be more expensive for the purists. Solid state amps and digital modeling should be more expensive because of the R&D involve.

Does my theory hold water?


Sorry, it doesn't.

Tube technology is probably at their most advanced today. More r&d and inventions coming out of the woodwork everyday.  Sa gtr amps pa lang yan, lalo pa siguro sa mga tube stereos ng audiophiles.

Mas mahal ang r&d on tube. By itself, mas mahal kasi gumawa ng tube amp kesa sa solid state. Parts and labor yun. Pag sinama mo pa yung value-add from branding nya as tube, yung actual brand ng gumawa (eg, Matchless!), marketing, actual tonal improvement vs SS, etc... sobrang mahal talaga. I happen to think they're overpriced, whilst SS amps are closer to their actual r&d and manufacturing price.

Karamihan ng tube amp are still intended for regular guitarists.  Pero, tama ka, maraming boutique tube amps ngayong targeted talaga sa mga purists at snobs, altho ung ibang circuit copy lang ng lumang circuit.  They're feeding on the elitism to make $$$.

Offline buliwyf

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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2006, 02:39:49 PM »
i think sa manufacturing process nagkakatalo yung pricing nila.

kasi in creating tube amps, kelangan talaga may totoong tao na involved, maybe like inserting the tubes sa socket, soldering the socket pins to the wires etc. not to mention na napaka inconsistent ng mga tubes kaya siguro kelangan pa nila testingin isa isa yung mga tubes, then they have to throw away bad tubes, which they already paid for.

solid state amps kasi, pwedeng gawin ng robot. mag design lang sila ng PCB layout, tapos program nila si robot, then ayun tuloy tuloy na, sobrang consistent pa ang quality, kasi the IC's they are using also came from a factory na puro robot ang nag mamanufacture, tapos lahat ng ISO certification meron yung factory na yun kaya di kelangan mag alala sa consistency ng quality.

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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2006, 04:21:10 PM »
I agree.. production..

Offline mang_disto

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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2006, 04:58:09 PM »
guys, anu naman ung term na pre-amp? e anu ung mga amp na marshall, fender, laney, peavey etc... na makikita sa mga music store? pano malalaman na solid state amp or tube amp sya? hehe... ako na yta pinaka bano dito sa forum... :oops:

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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2006, 05:32:05 PM »
Preamp, in tagalog, bago dumaan sa main amplifier. There are actually many kinds, The term preamp actually is very broad. This are circuits that your signal pass thru before passing through the power amplifier, delays, distortions, overdrives are all examples of preamplifiers, although the most popular among musicians are the overdrive and distortion effects.