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Offline fuge

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« on: April 29, 2006, 03:07:58 AM »
any info or feedback using an electric drum set.

i know the feel is not the same with an acoustic drum. but due to space/room constraint. im considering this one.

and im planning to hook it up to my mac. tweak it to sync with garageband.  :roll:

thanks

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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2006, 08:48:31 PM »
meron ba sa inyo ritong gumagamit ng electronic drums? wala kasi akong masyadong nakikita e. iniisip ko lang, advantage nito talaga ang volume control.:)
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2006, 09:56:27 PM »
kung wala ka nang paglagyan ng pera mo ok yan hehehe.. yung pambibili ko niyan pambibili ko na lang ng acoustic drums...
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2006, 08:31:22 AM »
I've tried using Roland electric drums before..ok naman..its true dat volume control is a big aspect but I would have to take the side of acoustic as well. I dont like the response of the electric ones.. :D
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2006, 09:41:25 AM »
depende yan.
kung may pera ka, go for it.
i think, besides volume control, marami pang maiooffer ang electronic kits.
maraming sound effects and other settings na pwede mong mapatunog yung electronic kit.
pero kung di ka naman magte-techno, ok na yung acoustic drums.
plus, pag electronic drums ang lagi mong gamit medyo mabobobo ka pag bumalik ka ulit sa acoutic kit. kasi iba layout nila and iba rin yung feel.


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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2006, 11:56:06 AM »
i am not a drummer pero ito ang observation ko.
1. mas madaling mag record ng electronic drums saka mas maganda tunog kesa sa ordinaryong drum kit lang at moderate priced mics
2. makakapili ka ng shell ng drums, size ng drums at maitotono mo pa ilang clicks lang, plus mapipili mo ang room size, wall material, mic placements at mapapalitan mo ang decay ng instrument.
3 mas separate yung sound kaya mas magandang i mix nde tulad ng acoustic na maraming bleed sa nearby mic
4. puwede kang mag record in the middle of the night na hindi ka nakakabulahaw sa neighbor
5. kung hindi ka drummer puwede mong ikabit sa drum machine para makagawa ng sequence
6. puwede mong ikabit sa sequencer para madaling ayusin kung me mali that is kung tinugtog mo ito sa keyboard controller.
7. at kung naka midi ka na, pwede mong palitan yung tunog ng kick o snare o toms kapag hindi akma sa song.
8. hindi ito para sa serious sa drum skills kasi iba ang feel sa totoong drums.
ps
roland V drums ang recommend ko kasi sila ang pioneer dito saka maganda ang tunog at controls. 8)
ijust my opinion, i may be wrong...
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2006, 12:00:04 PM »
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pahabol lang.. mahal nga lang ang Roland Vdrums..totoo kung ala kang masyadong gastos e ..ito ang tunay na GAStos..nasa $2000 plus yung entry level nila at yung mid to top of the line e aabot ng $50000.. 8)
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2006, 12:09:38 PM »
at kung manalo ka sa lotto ay pwedeng pwede ito....

tignan niyo si akira jimbo. ang galing niya napag halo niya ang acoustic at electric drums.. napaka creative ng taong yun.
by the way ano bang model ng yamaha e.drums ni akira? nakagamit na ko sa dubai nun. hanep ang mga features. sobra!!!
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2006, 12:14:54 PM »
pards baka yamaha dtxpress?? yun lang alam kong gawa ng yamaha na electronic drums.. 8)
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2006, 12:24:20 PM »
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pards baka yamaha dtxpress?? yun lang alam kong gawa ng yamaha na electronic drums.. 8)

ewan ko lang. kasi dun sa store. maraming yamaha e.drums me nakita eh...... pinasubok pa nga sakin isa2
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2006, 12:25:19 PM »
Nakasubok ako nyan dito sa Shenzhen at Hongkong.Ok sya kaya lang Mahal nga! Totoong mabo-[grape] ka pag bumalik ka sa acoustic kasi,iba nga ang feel nya at iba ang Dynamics.
Advantage nya yung ibat ibang tunog na pwedeng effects.

Siguro Ok 'to pang effects lang.Hindi isang set mismo ang gagamitin mo.
Masyadong "peke" ang dating sa tenga.Sobrang linis ng tunog!
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2006, 02:39:13 PM »
How about ung mga YAMAHA DD series, like this one:


YAMAHA DD55

Dati kc me nagbebenta nito sa ebay.ph ng 8 thou lng.

Ngaun meron nagbebenta pero 12 thou gusto.

Pang record lng ata ito e and pang jamming.  Sa gig I dont think na this will be appropriate.

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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2006, 04:30:02 PM »
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How about ung mga YAMAHA DD series, like this one:


YAMAHA DD55

Dati kc me nagbebenta nito sa ebay.ph ng 8 thou lng.

Ngaun meron nagbebenta pero 12 thou gusto.

Pang record lng ata ito e and pang jamming.  Sa gig I dont think na this will be appropriate.


that particular model isn't touch sensitive...I'll be the first one to discourage you.  Its a chops downer.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2006, 05:13:55 PM »
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Quote from: bulog
How about ung mga YAMAHA DD series, like this one:


YAMAHA DD55

Dati kc me nagbebenta nito sa ebay.ph ng 8 thou lng.

Ngaun meron nagbebenta pero 12 thou gusto.

Pang record lng ata ito e and pang jamming.  Sa gig I dont think na this will be appropriate.


that particular model isn't touch sensitive...I'll be the first one to discourage you.  Its a chops downer.


Oo pre. Di maganda yan. Di ka matuto ng mga mga proper techiniques dyan. Sabi touch sensitive daw, kaso parang tatlong levels lang ang velocity values nya (soft, medium, hard). Kaya yun, binenta ko agad yung akin. :lol:
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2006, 09:08:10 PM »
How about my drumkit?!!  :lol:

Depende po yan kung paano nyo gagamitin yung edrum nyo.  Sa akin kasi malaking tulong ang nagagawa ng electronic drums ko ngayon para sa development ng techniques ko..  Nakakapag-ensayo din ako anytime nang wala akong naiistorbong mga kapitbahay..  Isa lang ang sinisiguro ko, siguradong di ako magiging [grape] pag balik ko sa acoustic drums! :)

Anyways, kahit acoustic o electronic drums, kung di magagamit ng tama siguradong walang improvement na mangyayari sa playing..

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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2006, 09:16:11 PM »
naka try na ako niyan sa tommy lee store sa HK. hehehe, ibang iba yung feel! hehe. i'd prefer acoustic drums over e-drums anyday, para kahit brown-out, rak-on paren tayong mga tamboleros! =)

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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2006, 10:09:08 PM »
ive tried the DD55....maganda pag gusto mo ng sound effects, downside nga lang eh hindi maganda ang response at mabilis masira
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2006, 12:48:17 PM »
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meron ba sa inyo ritong gumagamit ng electronic drums? wala kasi akong masyadong nakikita e. iniisip ko lang, advantage nito talaga ang volume control.:)


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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2006, 09:44:02 PM »
I use Arbiter E400 now as my practice kit here sa UK before buyin this i use the uni's yamaha dtx. i only bought this coz of my flat's limited space plus super sensitive yung mga neighbours ko with noise, even pag start lang ng auto ko nagrereklamo na sarap suntukin talga. anyway, it is expensive pero the market for electric drums here is very big that i could easily sell it off without any problem, plus i bought it second hand so the loss wont be that much if in case i cant pass it off as slightly used/almost brand new condition. so in the end i wont be spending anything kasi i intend to sell it when i return to manila na for good. pang practice lang talaga.

pero nothing beats the feel and completeness of an acoustic kit, no question about this. i wouldnt recommend an e-kit for recording because the sound is so limited, you cannot simply adjust the depth and other sound characteristics of each drum/cymbal sound which is already pre-configured into the console. unless you have an expensive roland/yamaha ekit that has a lot of drumcymbal sounds built-in that could be used separately from each other. kasi yung sakin only a few sounds like latin, jazz, big band, rock, punk, hard rock, modern rock, electronic, etc. pero for example i cant criscross sounds or i cant use the jazz ride sound with latin piccolo, pag jazz-jazz set lang, cannot be interchanged sila. pero with pro ekits amounting to more than 150k at least im sure kaya ito. but with this money, wouldnt you rather buy a starclassic or pearl masters or gretsch renown?

moreover, even if the drum module can give you different drum sounds, you need to expand the kit to accommodate effects cymbals or more crash sounds, i couldnt do much with just a hihat, 1crash and a ride. mahal yung mga extra pads or expansion kits plus you have to determine if the console can accommodate more pads or an expansion kit. plus they dont feel the same if you will go for the rubber/plasticy pads. the one that i bought is of mesh heads and you can actually adjust its tension and this actually is close enough to standard acoustic head feel, plus i can change the mesh heads with standard skins that are also tunable so that the ekit now turns into an acoustic kit with this change.

if i can only play an acoustic kit in this quiet neighbourhood i wouldnt even make a second glance at ekits. on a more friendly suggestion tone, i suggest that you spend your money on acoustic kits, you'll feel a lot better. but at the end of the day its your call, this is just my opinion. whichever way you'll have it, i'm sure you'll make a good decision. Thanks!

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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2006, 09:54:01 PM »
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How about my drumkit?!!  :lol:


sir curious lang ako, kamusta ang mesh heads ng vdrums on wear and tear? kailangan mo rin ba syang palitan periodically tulad ng regular drumheads?

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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2006, 09:57:48 PM »
To bangbus..  AMEN!!!!  :lol:
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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2006, 10:25:06 PM »
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How about my drumkit?!!  :lol:


sir curious lang ako, kamusta ang mesh heads ng vdrums on wear and tear? kailangan mo rin ba syang palitan periodically tulad ng regular drumheads?


Sir?! Huh?!  Di pa ako nyor!!! :lol:

Regarding your question, matibay ang mesh heads ng Vdrums.  I'm using Roland TD20K Vdrums.  Di mo kailangan palitan lagi.. mahal yun! Hehehe.. Pati bass drum mesh head ko bugbog na bugbog coz I'm always practicing my double pedals.  Kung papaluin sya using right technique, I doubt na mabubutasan ka agad ng mesh heads.  You can check Roland US website for demo videos.

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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2006, 10:33:02 PM »
To Peeves24:

Tanong ko lang po if you have plans of buying Vdrums using mesh heads?  I recommend TD20 or TD 12 Vdrums, or Hart drums.  Very expensive ngalang po but if you've got the money and you're really interested in edrums (na pinakamalapit ang feel sa acoustic set) go for it!!!  
Tagasaan po kayo?  Kasi kung sa Pinas mo gagamitin pang-ensayo, I suggest you just buy a good acoustic drumset tapos ipasoundproof mo na lang yung room.  Pero walang makakapigil sayo kung gusto mo talaga ng Vdrums!  Sama-sama tayong sumaytay magdamag! :lol:
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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2006, 10:54:33 PM »
peeves24, photos po ng Vdrums ko..

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« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2006, 07:47:14 AM »
hart dynamics lang po...cant afford vdrums.



prodigy model about 55k pesos shipped from the US to manila, walang kasamang drum module but i can buy an alesis dm5 here (25k brand new, 9k second hand)

para kasing cheaper alternative sya kesa bumili ng decent microphones for recording demos and sound proofing. no more excuses na din para di makapag practice after office hehehe

on my budget right now, i have more than enough to get that prodigy and the 2nd hand alesis dm5. my only worry is that my sound will only be as good as my drum module, i tested a ddrum and the dm5 side by side and the dm5 is noticeably poor on the sound libraries. then again, the ddrum is 250k  :(