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Offline meinldrummer

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« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2006, 07:06:55 PM »
I have an Alesis DM5 that I use for practice. Ang drums ko e lumang fernando. Nilagyan ko ng foam yun mga toms at snare ko at bass drum para super muffled sila. Gumawa ako ng triggers using piezo elements from Raon for that set up at yun may instant ekit for practice na ako without spending much. Pwede ka rin bumili sa Lazer ng regal practice pad at lagyan mo ng trigger at ayan may instant drumpad ka na. Importante may good good drum module ka. Alamin mo rin yun purpose mo. Kung pangpractice lang why spend money on hi-end equipment with so much features nga pero in the end gagamitin mo lang pala eh yun standard set na pre programmed na.

Nabili ko yun Alesis ko sa TOM LEE po. hindi po si Tommy Lee may-ari nun.:-)
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« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2006, 10:57:29 PM »
ey peeves24, doesn't matter kung ano gamit mo na set pang-ensayo.. expensive or cheap, basta't nag-eenjoy ka at lagi kang inspired para bumalik sa set mo para sumaytay.  Wag kang makikinig sa sasabihin ng iba, kung ano ang tama o mali regarding sa paggastos (unless they're your financial adviser..).  Alam mo kung kaya ng budget mo or hindi.  Balanse lang lahat bro! Nagiging mali lang naman ang paggastos kung sobra ang gastos mo sa kaya mong bilhin o bayaran.  Yung tipong maghihirap ka na dahil sa nilabas mo na pera.  Priorities lang yan!  It's like choosing wether you buy a high end gear(drums) or buy a car?!  Yung kotse madalas maglalabas pa sa iyo ng pera (gastos) at yung gear naman magpapasok ng pera (income).

Nabili ko ang TD20 Vdrums ko galing sa 1 year attendance BONUS ko sa company kung saan ako nagtatrabaho.  I worked hard for it, di ako nag-absent! :lol: Actually, I was really planning to buy an acoustic set, pero di talaga yun uubra kung nakatira ka sa flats or buildings dito sa HK.  Balikan mo na lang yung previous posts ko.  Inilagay ko dun yung mga reasons why I chose to get an edrum (TD20 Vdrums in particular).  Pero mas masarap talaga tumugtog sa acoustic drums!  I prefer an acoustic set over edrums sa pag-ensayo at pagtugtog live.  Pero kung ikaw ang nasa situation ko, bakit ka bibili ng acoustic set na hindi mo naman magagamit?  Some may say, I'm crazy.. I don't care!  One thing for sure, I'm getting better!

Mabuhay ka peeves24!  Mabuhay tayong lahat!!!

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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2006, 08:40:03 AM »
im still contemplating on the edrums but im 90% sure that i'll be taking home a pdp kit soon. the other 10% is saying that i should just build a tiny kit to lessen expenses and channel the funds to recording gear.

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« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2006, 09:21:13 AM »
Quote from: Teedee20

Nabili ko ang TD20 Vdrums ko galing sa 1 year attendance BONUS ko sa company kung saan ako nagtatrabaho.  I worked hard for it, di ako nag-absent! :lol: Actually, I was really planning to buy an acoustic set, pero di talaga yun uubra kung nakatira ka sa flats or buildings dito sa HK.


Hey Teedee, nice kit. I've tried Vdrums in music stores (hanggang try lang!) and they seem to have the best feel among edrums. I also saw this Roland clinic in Frankfurt once (MusikMesse) where this pro drummer from Belgium had a go at and it sounded exactly like well mic'ed acoustic drums. Do you play drums for HK Disney 5x a week or do you do something else for Mickey?

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« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2006, 11:03:56 AM »
Ey pinoymusika!

TD20 Vdrums rocks! :lol:
The best professional edrums by Roland!  
Anyways, Regarding your question, Nick Manso is the drummer of the band in HK Disneyland Hotel.  Unfortunately, I don't play the drumset here.  I play for the HK Disneyland 15-piece marching band (bass drum player or sometimes I also play the snare drum..).  That's why I really have to get a good edrums na pinakamalapit sa feel ng totoong drums.  I really have to practice my chops everyday coz may plano pa naman ako na bumalik sa drumset (Ipon lang muna ako dito)!  But getting an acoustic set here in HK to practice is not a good idea unless nakatira ka sa tabi ng dagat or you rent a studio which will cost you around HK$60 per hour.

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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2006, 12:38:43 PM »
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How about my drumkit?!!  :lol:

Depende po yan kung paano nyo gagamitin yung edrum nyo.  Sa akin kasi malaking tulong ang nagagawa ng electronic drums ko ngayon para sa development ng techniques ko..  Nakakapag-ensayo din ako anytime nang wala akong naiistorbong mga kapitbahay..  Isa lang ang sinisiguro ko, siguradong di ako magiging [grape] pag balik ko sa acoustic drums! :)

Anyways, kahit acoustic o electronic drums, kung di magagamit ng tama siguradong walang improvement na mangyayari sa playing..

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It depends on the music that you'll be playing siguro.
Im sure edrums won't make two distinctive sounds between 5B to 7A drumsticks; or wire to nylon brushes, compared to acoustic drums which has natural dynamics.

Pero Ok talaga pang practice di ba? Ako nga nung mag try sa TomLee,mga one & a half hour akong naglaro e! :lol:
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« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2006, 01:22:58 PM »
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kung wala ka nang paglagyan ng pera mo ok yan hehehe.. yung pambibili ko niyan pambibili ko na lang ng acoustic drums...
magkano ba ang mga available dito sa atin na mga ganyan? me binebenta pa ba ang Yupangco na ganyan?
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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2006, 01:29:51 PM »
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I've tried using Roland electric drums before..ok naman..its true dat volume control is a big aspect but I would have to take the side of acoustic as well. I dont like the response of the electric ones.. :D
i haven't tried an electric drum. i'm sure iba talaga feel ng acoustic. pero hirap controlin ng stage volume namin sa Church. pag naglakas na drummer lumalakas pati instrument amps. minsan natatabunan vocals (feedback kapag lalakasan pa) at naiingayan attendies.. d ba ito ang solution?
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« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2006, 01:31:54 PM »
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depende yan.
kung may pera ka, go for it.
i think, besides volume control, marami pang maiooffer ang electronic kits.
maraming sound effects and other settings na pwede mong mapatunog yung electronic kit.
pero kung di ka naman magte-techno, ok na yung acoustic drums.
plus, pag electronic drums ang lagi mong gamit medyo mabobobo ka pag bumalik ka ulit sa acoutic kit. kasi iba layout nila and iba rin yung feel.

magkano ba ito? wala bang magandang edrum na worth mga 50k more or less?
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« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2006, 01:34:02 PM »
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pahabol lang.. mahal nga lang ang Roland Vdrums..totoo kung ala kang masyadong gastos e ..ito ang tunay na GAStos..nasa $2000 plus yung entry level nila at yung mid to top of the line e aabot ng $50000.. 8)

wah!! mahal. me nagbebenta ba dito nyan? wala na bang mas mura?
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« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2006, 01:36:29 PM »
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ive tried the DD55....maganda pag gusto mo ng sound effects, downside nga lang eh hindi maganda ang response at mabilis masira

panong mabilis masira? me nagrerepair ba dito sa atin nyan?
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« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2006, 01:42:21 PM »
mahal pala ng edrums.. mas maganda talagang solution siguro sa amin eh maglagay na lang ng drumshield-acrylic. :)
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« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2006, 04:52:31 PM »
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mahal pala ng edrums.. mas maganda talagang solution siguro sa amin eh maglagay na lang ng drumshield-acrylic. :)


ey in_the_tent!  Saang church ka tumutugtog?
Mahal talaga ang edrums.. pero di pa ako nakakita ng edrums sa mga churches sa Pinas.  Dito sa HK, my Chinese friend told me that their church bought a Roland TD20 Vdrums.  But the kit is really expensive kaya yung mga mayayaman na churches lang ang nakakaafford nun.  You can also check Roland US website.  Meron silang "Worship connection site."  Very interesting coz I never knew that Roland music are sponsoring Christian music.. nagulat nga ako nung napanood ko yung mga videos.  TD20 Vdrums din ang gamit ng drummer dun
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« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2006, 05:02:43 PM »
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mahal pala ng edrums.. mas maganda talagang solution siguro sa amin eh maglagay na lang ng drumshield-acrylic. :)


Nweys, common problem nga sa mga churches ang volume ng drums..  Gaano ba kalaki ang church nyo?  You can talk to your head pastor or kung sino man ang in-charge..  Ask them to soundproof your church..  Maraming kurtina, ipacarpet nyo, Paligiran nyo ng fiberglass yung drums or yung sinasabi mo na drumshield-acrylic.. etc..  Magastos talaga!  Maghihina ka rin sa pagpalo..

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« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2006, 08:18:42 PM »
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ey in_the_tent!  Saang church ka tumutugtog?
Mahal talaga ang edrums.. pero di pa ako nakakita ng edrums sa mga churches sa Pinas.  Dito sa HK, my Chinese friend told me that their church bought a Roland TD20 Vdrums.  But the kit is really expensive kaya yung mga mayayaman na churches lang ang nakakaafford nun.  You can also check Roland US website.  Meron silang "Worship connection site."  Very interesting coz I never knew that Roland music are sponsoring Christian music.. nagulat nga ako nung napanood ko yung mga videos.  TD20 Vdrums din ang gamit ng drummer dun

Jesus Our Good Shepherd Globl Outreach po. pero pag youth service lang ako pumapalo. thanks for the info sir.
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« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2006, 08:25:08 PM »
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Quote from: in_the_tent
mahal pala ng edrums.. mas maganda talagang solution siguro sa amin eh maglagay na lang ng drumshield-acrylic. :)


Nweys, common problem nga sa mga churches ang volume ng drums..  Gaano ba kalaki ang church nyo?  You can talk to your head pastor or kung sino man ang in-charge..  Ask them to soundproof your church..  Maraming kurtina, ipacarpet nyo, Paligiran nyo ng fiberglass yung drums or yung sinasabi mo na drumshield-acrylic.. etc..  Magastos talaga!  Maghihina ka rin sa pagpalo..

  :D


wala namang problem sa acoustics. sa stage lang. once naglakas drummer, lahat mapapalakas na rin. fiberglass/acrylic na nga solution talaga.:) try na ring maghina. hirap ding magcontrol ng me snap pa rin sa tugtugan e. kelangan talagang magensayo para maging katulad ng mga jazzer. :D
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« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2006, 11:25:34 AM »
Me gumagamit ba sa inyo ng module at triggers sa acoustic drum?

Pano ginagawa ninyo? Para madampen yung drums?

Same feel pa rin ba? Makakapagrimshot ka ba dun?

Saan nakakabili dito nun?
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« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2006, 05:07:19 PM »
Posted by meinldrummer ( http://talk.philmusic.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=25382 )...

Quote from: meinldrummer
I use an Alesis DM5 drum module tapos gumawa ako ng triggers using piezo parts na nabili ko sa radioshack dati.

I trigger only my toms and bass drum kse ayoko mawala yun natural na tunog ng snare ko. I use it only in certain songs where it is needed kase dun sa dating band ko we used to play techno. Pero nagagamit ko rin sya pag sablay talaga yun drumset up sa mga out of town gigs where outdoor ang set-up pero wala man lang mic ang drums.

Tune your drums loose para mawala yun resonance kse yun piezo trigger picks up the vibrations produced by the drums. Yun trigger na ginawa ko kse eh head mounted kaya medyo sensitive sya. Kailngan muffled sya up to the point na hindi sya nagdodouble trigger o yun pag pumalo ka ng single stroke eh hindi double stroke ang labas nya. Natitimpla din yun sa drum module mismo. Kelangan lang ng maprosesong pag eexperimento para makuha yun tamang pagtimpla.

Magaadjust ka nga lang ng technique mo when using this set-up kse iba yun feel ng drums.

You can also use drum pads to augment your drum set-up. Bili ka ng practice pad tulad ng regal tapos gawa ka ng trigger tapos i-trigger mo yun practice pad. May instant drum pad ka na na pwede mo program ng different sounds. Mala Akira Jimbo.

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« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2006, 06:29:50 PM »
^^^Magkano score mo sa module?
Naka MuffleHead kasi yung kit ko e,kaya walang tunog.Pwede kaya yung trigger dun?
O kaya instead of buying a pair of bongo,timbales,bells, or any additional percussions,mas maganda nga siguro 'to! Magkano,bro?
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« Reply #44 on: September 15, 2006, 06:28:40 AM »
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How about ung mga YAMAHA DD series, like this one:


YAMAHA DD55

Dati kc me nagbebenta nito sa ebay.ph ng 8 thou lng.

Ngaun meron nagbebenta pero 12 thou gusto.

Pang record lng ata ito e and pang jamming.  Sa gig I dont think na this will be appropriate.


that particular model isn't touch sensitive...I'll be the first one to discourage you.  Its a chops downer.


Oo pre. Di maganda yan. Di ka matuto ng mga mga proper techiniques dyan. Sabi touch sensitive daw, kaso parang tatlong levels lang ang velocity values nya (soft, medium, hard). Kaya yun, binenta ko agad yung akin. :lol:



How about yun DD55C? touch sensitive na daw?

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« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2006, 09:22:49 PM »
What is your honest evaluation about this instrument..   DD-55 from yamaha. Is it convenient to use than conventional drums?
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« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2006, 03:55:41 PM »
ano yung mga pros and cons pag triggers ang gamit mo instead of drum mics?
mas gusto ko kasi ung triggers eh...
kasi dami ng tunog na magagawa tska isang channel lang yung gagamitin sa mixer,
hehe

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« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2006, 09:20:57 PM »
let me guess, you record metal  :-D triggers are fine i guess since it helps hide the drummer's defects (e.g. playing double bass na di consistent yung level), allows you to record fast beats that would sound bad using mics (assuming the trigger doesnt mis fire), helps you do recording quicker too since you dont need to fine tune each and every drum to their utmost potential.

sobrang mabusisi sa tuning, placement at hocus pocus ang mics pero it can capture the drummer's dynamics while playing

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« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2006, 01:42:33 PM »
hey guys,

just wanted to get your opinion on electronic drums... i'm currently using one. i really wanted to get an acoustic but i was afraid that my neighbors will start complaining, especially that i can only play during night time (after work).

i just started learning how to play the drums and my first kit is an electronic. i would greatly appreciate if you can give me some inputs like pros and cons of both as far as my learning how to play is concern.

salamat po. :-)

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Re: electronic drums and acoustic drums
« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2006, 06:02:06 PM »
iba pa rin kasi ang feel ng acoustic drums pero ang pag kakaalam ko meron ng mga electronic drums na my feel ng acoustic
nways depende yan sau sir if u want to get acoustic drums i think meron ka mabibili na drum mufflers or silencers

something that looks like this





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