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Offline Hebron

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Appropriate Drumset/Cymbals for Church Set Up? *merged*
« on: October 13, 2009, 09:43:43 AM »
Mga bro patulong naman.

Our church is planning to buy a new drumset kaya lang di namin alam kung acoustic ba o digital drumset ang bibilin.
Alin ang mas maganda sa church setting? at bakit?
Ano ang advantages and disadvantages ng dalawa?
Meron ba kayong alam na church na digital drumset ang gamit?
 
Eto po pinagpipilian namin:
Digital:
http://www.yupangco.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_catalogue.tpl&product_id=1039&category_id=16&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

Acoustic:
http://www.yupangco.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_catalogue.tpl&product_id=128&category_id=14&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

Thank you and God bless us all!!!
« Last Edit: October 13, 2009, 10:12:07 AM by Hebron »



Offline jefisipbata

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or digital?
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2009, 09:47:56 AM »
can you give us a brief description of your church? list down ko para naman makapag bigay kame ng medyo magandang advice.

- size ng worship hall (dimension)
- current sound system setup (lagay mo na din kung may drums na kayo dati)
- ok lang ba sa drummer nyo yun?


Offline Hebron

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or digital?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2009, 09:54:53 AM »
Mga 400 regular members ang laki ng church namin.
Ang building ay 2 storeys high at madaming windows (hindi kulob).
Meron na kaming (very old) pearl drum set 1993 pa binili kaya nag mamakaawa na palitan na sya
3 ang drummers ng church yung isa reserba (hehe ako yun)
Yung isang drummer gusto digital yung isa acoustic ako ang tie breaker (hehehe hirap maging PK)
« Last Edit: October 13, 2009, 10:09:49 AM by Hebron »

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or digital?
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2009, 10:10:37 AM »
para sa akin sir, as long as wala naman nagrereklamo sa mga kapit bahay or katabing establishment eh ok lang gumamit ng acoustic drums(budget wise).. mas maganda kasi feel ng acoustic than digital/electric drums.. kung malaki rin naman yung church niyo bakit hindi acoustic drums na lang.. pero kung may nagrerklamo sa kapitbahay, eh no choice kung may budget lang din naman eh d bili nga ng digital..
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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or digital?
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2009, 10:11:23 AM »
Mga 400 regular members ang laki ng church namin.
Ang building ay 2 storeys high at madaming windows (hindi kulob).
Meron na kaming (very old) pearl drum set 1993 pa binili kaya kaya nag mamakaawa na palitan na sya
3 ang drummers ng church yung isa reserba (hehe ako yun)
Yung isang drummer gusto digital yung isa acoustic ako ang tie breaker (hehehe hirap maging PK)


parang samin din pala halos yung size. yun naman pala ikaw ang PK, ikaw na magdecide (PK din ako,hahahaha). sa ngayon ba may mga mics yung drums nyo or wala?


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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2009, 10:19:13 AM »
Sa ngayon hindi naka mic kasi no need malalakas palo nila kaya ilang palit na ng drumheads (huhuhu).

para sa akin sir, as long as wala naman nagrereklamo sa mga kapit bahay or katabing establishment eh ok lang gumamit ng acoustic drums(budget wise).. mas maganda kasi feel ng acoustic than digital/electric drums.. kung malaki rin naman yung church niyo bakit hindi acoustic drums na lang.. pero kung may nagrerklamo sa kapitbahay, eh no choice kung may budget lang din naman eh d bili nga ng digital..

Noong una may nagrereklamo sa ingay ng tugtugan pero ngayon yung nagrereklamo na born-again na (hehehe). Sa ngayon wala pa namang nagrereklamo takot siguro ma-born again o kaya nasanay na sa ingay.
« Last Edit: October 13, 2009, 10:26:25 AM by Hebron »

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2009, 10:24:52 AM »
Bro if you want a long term investment for the church, Choose the acoustic set.

Pros and cons of Electric Set

Pros
-You can control the volume.
-yun lang

Cons
-Feel and sound is so unreal. At 1st you're excited with a Digital Kit but after few weeks of playing it, you'll still long for an acoustic kit.
-Repair is pain in the ARSE!!!
-After sales is so poor.You can't even buy extras for that.

Acoustic kit is the winner. You only need to adjust yourself of playing light depending on the situations.
But hey.... It's all good!!!

If you're serious you can contact me at 0917-8388783/0922-4728783

Ciao!!!
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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2009, 10:47:19 AM »
Bro if you want a long term investment for the church, Choose the acoustic set.

Pros and cons of Electric Set

Pros
-You can control the volume.
-yun lang

Cons
-Feel and sound is so unreal. At 1st you're excited with a Digital Kit but after few weeks of playing it, you'll still long for an acoustic kit.
-Repair is pain in the ARSE!!!
-After sales is so poor.You can't even buy extras for that.

Acoustic kit is the winner. You only need to adjust yourself of playing light depending on the situations.
But hey.... It's all good!!!

If you're serious you can contact me at 0917-8388783/0922-4728783

Ciao!!!

ayan, answered prayer na.

Offline Hebron

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2009, 10:36:19 PM »
Mga bro salamat! Acoustic kit is the winner! Tipid pa sa kuryente!  :-D
GBU!

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2009, 07:19:48 AM »
Mga bro salamat! Acoustic kit is the winner! Tipid pa sa kuryente!  :-D
GBU!

ayus. post ka ng pics pag nakabili ka na.

Offline StickMan

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2009, 08:37:56 AM »
Mga chong Good Am! pasali naman dito!:)


Offline uglyguy

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2009, 09:27:21 AM »
sir ... kami sa VCF Fort naka TD 21 ...... lahat ng drummers nag rereklamo ... iba kasi ang feel ...

sa akin .. at sa akin lang naman .. big NO ang electronic drums ..... not a good investment ... wala pang isang taon butas na yun bass drum skin nun TD 21 ... you will have to set up a very good monitor system sa stage ... para marinig ng lahat ng musician yun drums unlike sa acoustic kasi rinig naman na ....  ang pinaka ayaw ko dyan eh yun height adjustment .... fixed na yun pag nag set up ka ... iba iba naman ang height preference ng bawat drummers ... so ang hirap ... and isang clip lang ng kuryente mag reset na yun module mo ... minsan error pa pag reset .. so reset ka ulit ... mga kasam amo tumutugtog na ikaw wala pang tunog .... at eto madalas na prob .. pinapaki alaman ng mga drummers ang setting ng module .. alam mo na problema dyan ....

tama si sir sandy .... gusto m ng good investment ... go for acoustic drums ...

Offline paeng16

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2009, 09:30:15 AM »
Electric drums naman eh pang practice lang or if you're still stuck at the 80's bands!! hehehe...

Another pro's ng electric drum eh
1) Always naka TONO.
2) Madaling itransport
3) madaling i-setup at iligpit.

Pero.. takaw nakaw lang... kasi madaling ipackup eh..  :-D :lol:
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Offline StickMan

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2009, 09:34:23 AM »
mas ma feel mo yng drums pag accoustic kc, natural yng tunog nya, para saken accoustic drums ako, kahit simpleng setup yng accoustic drums bsta maganda yng pag kakatono and magnada yng cymbals, oks na oks yng mga chongs... :-)

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2009, 11:02:00 AM »
get the best of both worlds kuya... bumili k ng acoustic tapos set upan mo ng mics astig un...! panget kc sound ng electric kc puro kuryente... wala nang acoustics... hindi ko type ang electric kc pra kang ngddrums ng techno music hehehehehe...

buy ka na lng ng magandang drumset tpos setupan mo ng astig na mics! tska ang madalas kc na tugtugan sa church eh live... panget pati ang electric sa live music...

Offline makinao

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2009, 09:21:39 PM »
Teka, anong kondisyon ng Pearl set nyo? Baka naman heads at hardware lang ang kailangan. Heads (as in Ambassadors) for a 5 piece set should cost under 6k. If the shells are still in good shape, and depending on the condition of the hardware (lugs, tom arms, tension rods), replacement parts will cost about the same. So you could overhaul your existing drumset for a fraction of the price of a new one. And doing the overhaul yourselves will teach all of you a lot about how to maintain it.

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2009, 05:36:14 AM »
parang samin din pala halos yung size. yun naman pala ikaw ang PK, ikaw na magdecide (PK din ako,hahahaha). sa ngayon ba may mga mics yung drums nyo or wala?

ui mga pk oh hehe pk din ako eh la lng church din namin 400 ang capacity kaya lang kulob kaya pag medyo napasarap ang palo at medyo napalakas pinagsasabihan ako na hinaan ang palo hehehe
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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2009, 11:29:33 AM »
Kanya kanya tayo ng preferences. Pabor ako sa e-drums. I agree na medyo iba ang feel but it'll just take a little while para masanay ka. With your choice (TD9K), mesh na yung snare mo so halos pareho na ng feel ng real snare head yun. Ganyan ang first kit ko and wala naman problem sa akin yung rubber toms. I then upgraded to TD9KV na puro mesh na pati toms (and iba ang module).

Adjustable naman ang velocities ng e-drums. Cymbal chokes, snare buzzes etc. emulated naman. Napaka bilis iset-up. 2 channels lang kakainin sa mixer niyo. Nakamix na yung sound.

Regarding e-drums sounding too digital (unnatural, robotic whatever), Roland factory sounds are good naman. With the right tweaking sa main house mixer, lalabas ang natural drum sound (basta hindi bias ang sound engineer sa acoustic drums).

Nowadays, drum vsts are the main ingredient of e-drums and that's what I've been using. I paired my e-drum with Toontrack Superior Drummer and IMO, can blow any good sounding drum (with proper micing, eq etc sa mixer) away with its natural tone.

Check this out and see kung tunog peke pa ang e-drums ngayon:


Lahat nagawa, Rudiments, ghost notes, snare buzzes etc.


Eto factory sounds lang ng TD9K pero ang ganda na:


Depende talaga.

« Last Edit: November 10, 2009, 11:48:29 AM by MYN11 »

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2009, 12:01:12 PM »
depende sa lawak ng church.

Church kasi namin, almost 100 person lang yung capacity tapos acoustic drums gamit namin. Ayun, hirap pumalo. Parang bumubulong ako. hehe.
So for me, mas ok kung electronic drums na lang. Para controlled yung tunog.
drumming is my greatest way to praise the Lord!

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Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2009, 12:02:29 PM »
MAs happy ako sa Acoustic Set. Hehe. Parang hindi ko kasi feel yung electronic drums eh.
drumming is my greatest way to praise the Lord!

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Appropriate Drumset/Cymbals for Church Set Up? *merged*
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2009, 09:13:52 PM »
drummer po ako sa church bibili po kami ng bagung drum set wala naman akong idea kung anung bagay help po<><

mga worth 30k to 35k lang poh<>

tsaka po cymbals na hangang 10k<> meron po buh nun ganun?
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Re: anu po suggest nyung bagay na cymbals sa sonor at sa gretsch???
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2009, 09:39:53 PM »
im now a fan of big cymbals

Paiste Signature
Paiste 2002

Maganda yan

or my fave

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Re: anu po suggest nyung bagay na cymbals sa sonor at sa gretsch???
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2009, 09:41:35 PM »
maganda nga yun hehehe checheck ko yan hehehe

affortable naman po buh yan?mag kanu po yun

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Re: anu po suggest nyung bagay na cymbals sa sonor at sa gretsch???
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2009, 09:41:35 PM »
anu po maganda cymbals salamat sa inyu...

lahat... unlimited ang choices mo bro. try to be more specific...
watch your problem? ;p

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Re: anu po suggest nyung bagay na cymbals sa sonor at sa gretsch???
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2009, 04:53:24 AM »
actually bro, it's better to base it by genre.. that way mas matutulungan ka namin mahanap ung right sound sa tugtugan mo.. mahirap kasi mag-base depending sa set na gamit mo.. cheers! :wink: