What separates a good recording from a bad one. (Sound samples)

[skunkyfunk]

I tell you guys it's all about LOVE.

When the recording engineer hits the red button while in a state of LOVE, the recording comes out perfect.

But when a recording engineer feels grumpy, like say after eating some bad canned fish, then the recording comes out ugly, no matter how good the performance of the band members.

Nice theory, whatchathink ?

When you eat a bunch of rotten canned fish, you are not hapi este happy, because your Vest este best is not up to par.  

[LouieAzcona]

When you eat a bunch of rotten canned fish, you are not hapi este happy, because your Vest este best is not up to par.  

kesa nanggaganyan ka, makinig ka kaya sa mga sinasabi sayo. andami na oh!

 

[BAMF]

Eh.

Aysee tom mga 7 pm onwards. Dumating kayo. Sama mo si Ms.Morales.

May official policy lang ang Philmusic about lam nyo na Blackbeard and Jack Sparrow.

Pero duon sa Aysee...wtf we can talk about it all we want.  Team AiR saka H20 ba ? Hahehehe. Lalo na pag medyo lasheng na hehehe.

Basta...it's all about Love

[alvincflorentino]

I tell you guys it's all about LOVE.

When the recording engineer hits the red button while in a state of LOVE, the recording comes out perfect.

But when a recording engineer feels grumpy, like say after eating some bad canned fish, then the recording comes out ugly, no matter how good the performance of the band members.

Nice theory, whatchathink ?

I agree it's all about the LOVE, brotha'. And if you ain't got da love, en you ain't got da chops, den you ain't goin' get de bread, man...

Couldn't have said it any better, BAMF.

[mikep]

I agree for the most part, but have a different paradigm, sir.

It's the 21st Century already and so much has changed. Back in the 70's-90's, to be a recording artist you really needed to be talented, otherwise you'll really have to spend so much time in the recording studio.

While I do espouse honing an artists skills, some fairy dust is nonetheless available should he fall short. And I believe, we should use it if the need arises.

I still believe that whether the 18th or 24th century, the artist's skills is still tops on the agenda.  Nothing has really changed much.  The process might be a little different because of digitalization - easier way of putting things into action or in changing, but the system is the same (they still put play, fast forward, rewind, etc even in commuter DAW programs because that is what people are accustomed to).  This is much the same way as in photography, video and similar disciplines.  But it is still the artist's skills that is bought and hailed here.  Yes, there are fairy dusts available, but these are used only with utmost care and with consent.  You can also classify the sound engineer as an artist because he puts in a certain worth of creativity in the entire process.

Yun lang siguro.

[s2ry0fdyr]

bad playing with big budget =  can still sound good
good playing with a tight budget = sounds at par
seasoned artist with big budget = sounds amazing

 

MONEY MATTERS'

[skunkyfunk]

I have a feeling that some people tend to underestimate the masses.  Whenever you put out a very cleanly produced (or should I say OVERPRODUCED) album like Paris Hilton's, it is the tidiness of the album that gets subject to criticism.

For me, the magic that the audio engineer chooses NOT to do is just as important as the magic he chooses to do.  (Or arguably, what the producer tells him to do).  At the end of the day, it is all about knowing the bare minimum requirements of a project, and knowing when you are approaching "manufactured" status.

[skunkyfunk]

kesa nanggaganyan ka, makinig ka kaya sa mga sinasabi sayo. andami na oh!

 

This is a public forum.  Lahat dapat makinig sa isa't isa.  Hindi lang ako ang nakikinig.  Hindi nagsisiraan.  Di kagaya ng iba kailangan pa ng clone para mangumpitensya. 

[rakrakan]

bad playing with big budget =  can still sound good
good playing with a tight budget = sounds at par
seasoned artist with big budget = sounds amazing

 

MONEY MATTERS'

Dude, while I'm inclined to agree on all points. Manny Pacquiao and Willie Revillame records always debunk that opinion.

[BAMF]

This is a public forum.  Lahat dapat makinig sa isa't isa.  Hindi lang ako ang nakikinig.  Hindi nagsisiraan.  Di kagaya ng iba kailangan pa ng clone para mangumpitensya. 

Huy! Let go na ! Aysee day na !

[skunkyfunk]

Huy! Let go na ! Aysee day na !

Oo nga.  SM Light drinker ako. Medyo nag-aalangan lang ako kasi kagabi nanaginip ako habang inaatras ko kotse ko may 3 mamang pumigil sa akin.  "Holdap to!"  Sabay binilisan ko atras tapos ayun... binaril ako 4 or 5 times tapos nagising ako sa gulat.

Naalala ko pa mukha nung gunman.  Hindi naman ikaw BAMF.    Hindi rin kahit sinong kakilala ko. 

[starfugger]

tuloy ba?

[LouieAzcona]

This is a public forum.  Lahat dapat makinig sa isa't isa.  Hindi lang ako ang nakikinig.  Hindi nagsisiraan.  Di kagaya ng iba kailangan pa ng clone para mangumpitensya.  

Sinong nangumpitensya at kinumpitensya? sana malupit yung kinumpitensya para exciting basahin yung thread  

Anyway. may isang thread tungkol sa clone, alam ko yun, pero sa kumpitensya, wala akong nababasang ganon.

"kumpitensya." haha!

Listen to BAMF. let go.

[skunkyfunk]

Sinong nangumpitensya at kinumpitensya? sana malupit yung kinumpitensya para exciting basahin yung thread 

Anyway. may isang thread tungkol sa clone, alam ko yun, pero sa kumpitensya, wala akong nababasang ganon.

kumpitensya. haha!

Listen to BAMF. let go.

Ah ok, I stand corrected.  Di pala mangumpitensya pero manira.  Wahahaha. 

Now you know how hard it is to clean up someone else's mess when your partner is the one who's supposed to do that here. 

There are two types of people who say sorry.  First is the one who says he's sorry to bail himself out of a bad situation conveniently.  The other is the one who says he's sorry with the effort to save his relationship with the person he mistreated, or tries to build/rebuild a better relationship with the one mistreated. 

Ang sakit ng kalingkingan damdam ng buong katawan.  That's why I never hired people to work in my studio.  Even if I had two very willing gentlemen who worked as OJTers and they were very helpful. 

[LouieAzcona]

Ah ok, I stand corrected.  Di pala mangumpitensya pero manira.  Wahahaha.  

Now you know how hard it is to clean up someone else's mess when your partner is the one who's supposed to do that here.  

There are two types of people who say sorry.  First is the one who says he's sorry to bail himself out of a bad situation conveniently.  The other is the one who says he's sorry with the effort to save his relationship with the person he mistreated, or tries to build/rebuild a better relationship with the one mistreated.  

Ang sakit ng kalingkingan damdam ng buong katawan.  That's why I never hired people to work in my studio.  Even if I had two very willing gentlemen who worked as OJTers and they were very helpful.  

hindi ko kasi siya employee o OJTer. tropa. binail out ko sa jail dahil nahuling nagyoyosi sa jeep... mula nun, andito siya halos araw araw. Nagluluto, nagaassist sa siter ko, saakin. Yeah nahirapan ako sa paglilinis ng mess niya dito sa philmu, pero mas mahirap kung ilalaglag ko. May mga tropa ka din. alam mo yan.

ang ibig ko lang sabihin.... magAYSEE daw kayo mamaya!

[skunkyfunk]

hindi ko kasi siya employee o OJTer. tropa. binail out ko sa jail dahil nahuling nagyoyosi sa jeep... mula nun, andito siya halos araw araw. Nagluluto, nagaassist sa siter ko, saakin. Yeah nahirapan ako sa paglilinis ng mess niya dito sa philmu, pero mas mahirap kung ilalaglag ko. May mga tropa ka din. alam mo yan.

ang ibig ko lang sabihin.... magAYSEE daw kayo mamaya!

Bakit kami lang? 

[LouieAzcona]

Bakit kami lang? 

date. ano nalang sasabihin niya kapag nalaman niyang pinagpalit ko siya sa mga lalaking nameet ko sa internet? haha!

[skunkyfunk]

date. ano nalang sasabihin niya kapag nalaman niyang pinagpalit ko siya sa mga lalaking nameet ko sa internet? haha!

Sa Aysee ka na lang makipag-date mura pa. 

[skunkyfunk]

hindi ko kasi siya employee o OJTer. tropa. binail out ko sa jail dahil nahuling nagyoyosi sa jeep... mula nun, andito siya halos araw araw. Nagluluto, nagaassist sa siter ko, saakin. Yeah nahirapan ako sa paglilinis ng mess niya dito sa philmu, pero mas mahirap kung ilalaglag ko. May mga tropa ka din. alam mo yan.

Actually mas mahirap nga pag ganyan, kasi pag business level lang ang responsibilidad mo sa isang tao, pag gumawa siya ng kalokohan in the line of duty, o kapag gumawa siya ng kasiraan sa business affiliations niya, madali mo lang siya matsugi sa trabaho. 

Alam mo may kaibigan ako halos isang taon nakikitira sa bahay ng boss niya na may-ari ng computer shop na pinagtatrabahuhuan niya.  Mabait yung may-ari kasi pastor, kaya kahit gustong-gusto na paalisin ng mga anak niya yung kaibigan ko sa bahay nila, di nila magawa.  Palamunin pa, kasi minsan kulang pera niya.  Pero nung nalamang nasasabit siya sa pagkawala ng ibang mga peripherals, ayun... babay.  Siya yung kusang umalis...

Sorry OT na.

[titser_marco]

Ganyan dati sa EMI Studios when the Beatles were recording their first albums.  All of the engineers were in white long coats - parang mga doktor; supposedly the recording studio is a lab.  It has since changed. Maong at T-shirt na lang.

To chime in, for us at TRACKStudios, the main aim is to record the performance in the best possible manner.  Therefore, the engineer can always suggest to the artists or producer on the best way to capture or record, but never take charge of the recording.  If he believes that the acoustic guitar will sound better with ambient mics all over, so be it; he has to tell the producer.  But not to the extent of suggesting that the song be done on D instead of C.

The main purpose of recording for us, is to capture the performance.  Hence, it is a must that the recording process faithfully records the performance.  If there are flats or sharps, these are to be corrected.  What is the use of the multi-track for, if those mistakes are not given take twos.  What is recorded or put on archive (record or CD) should be able to be reproduced faithfully live by the artist. Otherwise, people will feel shortchanged in the live performance if the recorded version is totally doctored. Kung baga, plakang-plaka and more dapat.  I agree that pros do certainly sound better than beginners, and given the right kind of instruments (brand, condition and all - pros are suppose to be using pro instruments), the performance really shines.  In all purposes, whether as a demo, CD release, personal use, etc., the performer is suppose to put in 100% performance level.  And if there are problems, should revert first to the practice or rehearsal room to iron out all the kinks of the performance.  When all is acceptable, then, he goes back into the recording studio (recording time wasted is money down the drain).  In this respect, the engineer is to perform his best capturing the performance, for whatever purpose.  It is inherent that the recording engineer puts in his 100% effort in getting the sound necessary for the performance.

My 2 cents.

I agree with MikeP on this. As a corollary, I remember an interview with Steve Albini and at one point he mentioned that the dislikes the idea of someone interfering with an artists during recording, and he analogises it with "telling someone how to f**k his wife".

[skunkyfunk]

I agree with MikeP on this. As a corollary, I remember an interview with Steve Albini and at one point he mentioned that the dislikes the idea of someone interfering with an artists during recording, and he analogises it with "telling someone how to f**k his wife".

Steve Albini is a god.

[Bale]

Alam mo may kaibigan ako halos isang taon nakikitira sa bahay ng boss niya na may-ari ng computer shop na pinagtatrabahuhuan niya.  Mabait yung may-ari kasi pastor, kaya kahit gustong-gusto na paalisin ng mga anak niya yung kaibigan ko sa bahay nila, di nila magawa.  Palamunin pa, kasi minsan kulang pera niya.  Pero nung nalamang nasasabit siya sa pagkawala ng ibang mga peripherals, ayun... babay.  Siya yung kusang umalis...

Sorry OT na.

parang kilala ko ito ha...hmmm...
ganun ba yung nangyari noon?
medyo may pagkapichapie ba siya? 

[skunkyfunk]

parang kilala ko ito ha...hmmm...
ganun ba yung nangyari noon?
medyo may pagkapichapie ba siya? 

Pichapie?  Wahehehehe

[BAMF]

Oo nga.  SM Light drinker ako. Medyo nag-aalangan lang ako kasi kagabi nanaginip ako habang inaatras ko kotse ko may 3 mamang pumigil sa akin.  "Holdap to!"  Sabay binilisan ko atras tapos ayun... binaril ako 4 or 5 times tapos nagising ako sa gulat.

Naalala ko pa mukha nung gunman.  Hindi naman ikaw BAMF.    Hindi rin kahit sinong kakilala ko. 

K lang yun. For true Christians, death should be a welcome event. You'll be rejoining the Father. . But in heaven there is no beer, only absynth...that's why we drink it here.