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Offline uy12umainer

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2010, 09:17:32 PM »
wala pakong nakikitang famous na drummer na nakamuffs eh hehe

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2010, 09:52:35 PM »
wala pakong nakikitang famous na drummer na nakamuffs eh hehe

kasi afford na nila na bumili ng in-ear isolation monitors. hehe

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2010, 11:35:15 AM »
during practice/recordings/small-room gigs, i use earmuffs para malinis ung dating ng sound sa tenga ko.. usually ung noise or "wall of sound" nakaka-overwhelm paminsan kaya i need to control ung sounds na naririnig ko para di din ako mawala sa bilang.. masarap din kung may click na kasabay para plakado talaga! cheers! :wink:

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2010, 12:47:53 PM »
nag eear muff na ko.. pagkapasok ko na sa isang bar, na nag sstart na ng tugtugan.. kasi pag di ko ginawa un, may tendency lumakas ang palo ko.. kaya nasasapawan ko na ung mga ka-bandmates ko. at di ko na marinig palo ko pag ako na ang nakasalang.. nabingi na ata ako sa mga naunang tumugtog..

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2010, 11:26:50 PM »
gumamit ng ear muff pag nagppraktis at pra d mrinig kpag cnasaway ng kpitbahay pag naiingayan na...haha!


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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2010, 01:12:09 PM »
gumamit ng ear muff pag nagppraktis at pra d mrinig kpag cnasaway ng kpitbahay pag naiingayan na...haha!
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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2010, 01:27:40 PM »
mga sir. ang alam ko kasi na earmuffs eh yung ginagamit ng
mga construction worker na gumagamit ng jackhammer sa
ibang bansa. parehas lang b yun?

tska my nkita din ako n parang earmuffs pero
my wire/chord. headset n ata un.

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2010, 01:35:55 PM »
mga sir. ang alam ko kasi na earmuffs eh yung ginagamit ng
mga construction worker na gumagamit ng jackhammer sa
ibang bansa. parehas lang b yun?

tska my nkita din ako n parang earmuffs pero
my wire/chord. headset n ata un.

either way same principle din yun... the difference is the style of the muffs... syempre more high end and drummer's ear  (specially designed for drums/musical instrument isolation) compared to the constructicon types... same with the head set, it can also be used as ear muffs yun nga lang, meron parin sound na makakapasik since its a head-set not muffs

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2010, 03:55:11 PM »
para sakin importante sya para protektahan yung ears natin. prolonged exposure to loud music can have a permanent damage sa hearing natin. siguro di mapapansin agad since gradual na makakadegrade ng hearing.

i think if you love music and drums, it would really suck if you wont be able to hear it.

better be safe than sorry.  :-D

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2013, 06:47:09 PM »
Tagal na tong topic na to but what I will share is very imptortant from a medical point of view. As musicians,
The sense of hearing is the most important "gift" that we have. According to my ent colleague, hearing loss can be acute or chronic. Acute hearing loss/damage occurs when our ears are exposed to a very loud noise depending on how much our ears can take. This happens during loud concerts,  being too close to a jet plane, etc.. It resolves spontaneously.
   Chronic/permanent hearing loss develops insidously, meaning, through time (more than 10yrs). We are not able to distinguish it at first until symptoms are significant. All of us will develop hearing loss as we grow old but it depends on how much and how fast. Early symptoms of which is tinnitus. Risk factors of which is age, environment and occupation. Significant noise levels that can cause chronic hearing loss is being exposed to sound of more than 90db for a prolonged period of time. 85 db dw un bagong value. Examples are street noise during heavy traffic, factory noise during peak hrs of production, practicing OUR craft without protection. There is no treatment. Prevention is the cure. One way to know kung ng sstart na to is to have a pure tone audiometry. Available ito sa hospitals, cheaper sa mga maliliit na diagnostic clinics. Costed me 500php but it ranges from 500 to 800php. Kung bata kp, ok ka pa. Im 30 and im planning to play drums for as long as I can . So far good pa daw ang tenga ko, though hindi naman talaga ko tumutugtog sa gig ng madalas bec of my profession. Mas high risk daw yung mga me regular gigs. so yes, i wear earmuffs for this reason during practice, planning to wear one during gigs. I hope me naitulong po ako. Cheers!

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2013, 06:57:20 PM »
Add ko pa pala. One way para malaman kung more than 85db ang environment is if you have to make your voice louder kung  kaharap mo lang yung kausap mo.

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2013, 08:24:12 PM »
hindi masakit sa tenga pag practice...disadvantage,pag live na,hindi kayo magkarinigan...



haha. Tama, sinubukan ko yung  and nagulo ako sa tugtog namin because naka earmuff ako and hindi ko marinig yung boses and guitar. I can only hear eh yung vibration ng bass.
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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2013, 08:36:17 PM »
Sa umpisa medyo mahirap gumamit ng earmuff kahit sa practice lang but when you already fixed yourself with it, madali na lang.

Kaya nga tiis muna sa umpisa, kailangang masanay for your health. Parang bagong size ng drumstick yan eh, hindi ka sanay sa umpisa but kapag tumagal na, masaasanay ka din.

Mga sir, ask ko naman kung anung suggestion niyo dito:
Naka enclosure po ng glass ang drums namin sa church and with that sobrang nabibingi ako kapag tumutugtog ako. I tried to use earmuff pero wala akong marinig.
What do you think is the best way?
>>should i use monitor speakers inside the enclosure (the snare may vibrate)? or...
>>should i use headphone monitors para sa boses (malayo yung drums sa sound mixer)?

thanks mga sir.
Keep on rocking.  :-D
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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2013, 08:40:09 PM »
try  mo po gumamit ng hi-fidelity ear plugs. balanced po ang sound reduction nya kaya maririnig mo pa din yung voice at instrument. ok sya gamitin.
http://www.etymotic.com/hp/er20.html

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2013, 08:56:59 PM »
try  mo po gumamit ng hi-fidelity ear plugs. balanced po ang sound reduction nya kaya maririnig mo pa din yung voice at instrument. ok sya gamitin.
http://www.etymotic.com/hp/er20.html

salamat sir, pero marinig ko pa rin kaya yun even nasa enclosure ako? Try ko magsearch about that.
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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2013, 09:52:49 PM »
try  mo po gumamit ng hi-fidelity ear plugs. balanced po ang sound reduction nya kaya maririnig mo pa din yung voice at instrument. ok sya gamitin.
http://www.etymotic.com/hp/er20.html

mismo yan!  hi-fidelity ear plugs e gamit ko palagi.wala naman ako problem,daily ko siya ginagamit sa turo,halos isang taon siya bago nasira,i got mine kay vinci. medyo pricey pero worth the investment,balanced talaga.
pero compared sa price ng vic firth na etymotic ear plugs ng jb e maappreciate mo kay vinci dahil sobrang mahal ng sa jb no joke
i got mine kay vinci.best investment for yourself if you are concerned with your ears. nasanay ako isuot siya,minsan hinahanap na siya ng tenga ko.hehe. from jazz gig at metal mismo siya,wala kang madidinig ng hi ringing thingy after mo tumugtog dahil sa ingay,

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2013, 05:49:39 AM »
mas na-aattenuate nya yung higher frequencies. yun kasi ang mas nagcacause ng ear damage eh. so yung frequencies na mas mataas pa sa voice range ay dampened na.

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2013, 04:54:51 PM »
To lessen the sound volume or decibels... Specially if the drummer is a basher... 8-)

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2013, 07:38:12 PM »
how about those for muffs for guns/practical shooting? :wave:

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2013, 08:56:55 PM »
Malaking tulong mga ear protections gaya ng ear muffs, ear plugs and so on.
10 years din ako nababad sa palakasan ng palo dahil sa rock na yan hehe
kaya during the 1st set wala muna ear plugs kasi alalay pa tugtugan namin by 2nd or 3rd  set nakow palakasan na tlga kasi andyan na mga rakistang tao kaya definitely naka ear plugs na ako nun minsan kahit bulak ginagamit ko kahit masagwang tignan kasi parang nasusugat yung inner skin ng tenga sa ibang ear plugs.

Kung di ko ginawa mag ear protection during those heavy rocking years on gigs and during heavy practice nakow tyak may tama na tenga ko. Yung drum master ko ayun may tinnitus na kaya lagi na naka ear muff kapag high volume ang gig.

Para sa kin mas maganda at clear kapag naka ear plugs ako kasi di mainit at parang mas naririnig ko mabuti mga kabanda ko kumpara kapag wala parang distorted lahat ng sounds dahil sa sobrang lakas eh mas masarap mag-rock kapag malakas kasi mga gitara hehe.

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2013, 09:10:46 AM »
how about those for muffs for guns/practical shooting? :wave:

same applications, for guns I use PELTOR, for drums I use VIC FIRTH SIH1.

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2013, 02:22:55 AM »
There are two types of hearing damage. Temporary, in which recovery can take from 12 to 24 hours. Permanent hearing damage is ...... FOREVER.

what decibel kaya damages temporary and forever,.. thanks sa info sir!  :mrgreen:
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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2013, 05:28:40 AM »
what decibel kaya damages temporary and forever,.. thanks sa info sir!  :mrgreen:

anything beyond 90db, lalo na repeated exposures could cause temporary (and in long term, permanent damage). Kung one time big time naman, 120 DB basag eardrums agad nun.


Nerdy fact baka makatulong:

"Louder sounds cause damage in a shorter period of time. Estimation of a "safe" duration of exposure is possible using an exchange rate of 3 dB. As 3 dB represents a doubling of intensity of sound, duration of exposure must be cut in half to maintain the same energy dose. For example, the "safe" daily exposure amount at 85 dB A, known as an exposure action value, is 8 hours, while the "safe" exposure at 91 dB(A) is only 2 hours. Note that for some people, sound may be damaging at even lower levels than 85 dB A." (National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, 1998).

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Re: How does earmuffs help drummers?
« Reply #48 on: October 31, 2013, 02:34:27 PM »
para hindi ka matuleg sa mga lagapak at lutong ng palo mo
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