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Offline uy12umainer

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13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« on: February 26, 2010, 08:31:36 AM »
mga sir which do you prefer the 13inch or 14inch hihat




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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2010, 10:10:33 AM »
depende sa volume na hanap mo.. smaller diameter cymbals have less volume pero more control as compared to bigger diameter cymbals with more volume pero somehow washy na ung sound.. meron pa nga 15" hats eh.. depende talaga sa genre and preferred sound setting mo.. :wink:

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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2010, 12:14:30 PM »
habang lumalaki ang diameter ng cymbals and hats, mas nagiging louder and higher sa pitch. i prefer 13" kasi mas mas madali ma-control and for me, mas versatile.

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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2010, 02:50:54 PM »
depende sa volume na hanap mo.. smaller diameter cymbals have less volume pero more control as compared to bigger diameter cymbals with more volume pero somehow washy na ung sound.. meron pa nga 15" hats eh.. depende talaga sa genre and preferred sound setting mo.. :wink:

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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2010, 05:52:36 PM »
habang lumalaki ang diameter ng cymbals and hats, mas nagiging louder and higher sa pitch.

Sir hindi ba mas nagiging lower yung pitch pag mas lumalaki? :-)


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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2010, 07:03:38 PM »
ask ko lang sir, i have 14" zbt hats, balak ko ipa resize to 13" mas hihina po ba sya??  :|
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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2010, 09:14:07 PM »
Sir hindi ba mas nagiging lower yung pitch pag mas lumalaki? :-)

yup. sorry didnt know what i was thinking. hehehe. i meant mas bumababa.
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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2010, 06:40:54 AM »
ask ko lang sir, i have 14" zbr hats, balak ko ipa resize to 13" mas hihina po ba sya??  :|

zbr?

yep hihina siya. not to mention na medyo mag-out of whack yung tunog niya pag iparesize mo.

resizing should only be done with damaged cymbals out of which you're trying to salvage some value / utility. it's a bad idea to do it to cymbals that are otherwise fine as it could ruin the sound of the cymbal--it wouldn't automatically sound like simply the next size down. andami kasing factors sa tunog ng cymbal, di lang alloy at diameter, at yung isa sa importanteng factors, ang taper, ay nagugulo / nasisira ng basta bastang pagresize ng cymbal.

kung gusto mo ng 13" hats, unang una ay susbukan mo muna kung ayos ba sa yo yung tunog niya. malay mo di mo pala gusto yung tunog. sa tenga ko, tunog laruan ang 13" e. kung sakali mang magustuhan mo, benta mo yung 14" mo at saka bili ka na lang ng 13", kesa paresize ka na (1) baka sablay ang tunog, at (2) mahihirapan ka ibenta kasi modified na.

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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2010, 09:31:56 AM »
zbr?

yep hihina siya. not to mention na medyo mag-out of whack yung tunog niya pag iparesize mo.

resizing should only be done with damaged cymbals out of which you're trying to salvage some value / utility. it's a bad idea to do it to cymbals that are otherwise fine as it could ruin the sound of the cymbal--it wouldn't automatically sound like simply the next size down. andami kasing factors sa tunog ng cymbal, di lang alloy at diameter, at yung isa sa importanteng factors, ang taper, ay nagugulo / nasisira ng basta bastang pagresize ng cymbal.

kung gusto mo ng 13" hats, unang una ay susbukan mo muna kung ayos ba sa yo yung tunog niya. malay mo di mo pala gusto yung tunog. sa tenga ko, tunog laruan ang 13" e. kung sakali mang magustuhan mo, benta mo yung 14" mo at saka bili ka na lang ng 13", kesa paresize ka na (1) baka sablay ang tunog, at (2) mahihirapan ka ibenta kasi modified na.


sorry di ko napansin yung type ko ZBT po, hehe,

ahm naisip ko na din po na mahihirapan na ako ibenta, and ang sa akin lang po kasi ay mahirap talaga maghanap ng 13" and wala pong 13" na ZBT diba po?

ask ko po  mas matinis po ba and mas mahina ang 13" K's / A's compare sa ZBT 14"??

thanks po sa advice and i decided na buy and sell nalang  :-)
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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2010, 11:52:18 AM »
Sir hindi ba mas nagiging lower yung pitch pag mas lumalaki? :-)

baligtag kapag hihats. mas malaki mas matinis

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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2010, 11:59:48 AM »

sorry di ko napansin yung type ko ZBT po, hehe,

ahm naisip ko na din po na mahihirapan na ako ibenta, and ang sa akin lang po kasi ay mahirap talaga maghanap ng 13" and wala pong 13" na ZBT diba po?

ask ko po  mas matinis po ba and mas mahina ang 13" K's / A's compare sa ZBT 14"??

thanks po sa advice and i decided na buy and sell nalang  :-)

meron 13 inch na zbt ,, yun yung gamit ko ngaun

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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2010, 12:25:29 AM »
sakin 14...kasi mas abot kahit malayo sayo yung hats pag sa set-up ng double peds...at syempre mas malaki yung tunog...

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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2010, 12:40:49 AM »
meron 13 inch na zbt ,, yun yung gamit ko ngaun

pwede ba makipag trade sau sir 14" akin  :-D
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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2010, 02:02:37 AM »
14  :-)

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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2010, 10:56:44 AM »
pwede ba makipag trade sau sir 14" akin  :-D

masaya nako sa 13 in ko hehe maganda din naman yung 14 ah

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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2010, 02:07:44 PM »
pwede ba makipag trade sau sir 14" akin  :-D

can i see the pics of your 14 hihat meron din ako zbt na 13 inch planning magpalit ng 14 eh pm mo ako salamt sir
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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2010, 02:56:42 PM »
14" gamit ko ngayon...may planong mag palit ng 13" pag may budget na  :-D

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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2010, 07:18:49 AM »
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,136386.0.html

sa mga naghahanap ng zbt 13 inch hihat brandnew

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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2010, 02:11:17 PM »
I commonly use 14". Minsan nga, pwede ka magcustomize ng mga hi-hats with other bigger sizes like 16" (WTF) just to give an wide and earthy sound (but not recommended all the time).
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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2010, 02:36:11 PM »
may mga artists ba na gumagamit ng 13 hats?

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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2010, 08:41:35 PM »
 and sir, paki enumirate naman yung differences between 14 VS 13

14inches is
- louder?

13inches is
-??
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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2010, 12:52:54 AM »
and sir, paki enumirate naman yung differences between 14 VS 13

14inches is
- louder?

13inches is
-??

has more control as sir peeves just said :-)

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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2010, 03:18:42 AM »
pakinggan kung anung maganda sa tenga..
marami factors..and ung pitch ndi cya nagbbago primarily or its size...

example zildjian 13" na hat almost same pitch with sabian 14" pero darker naman..or brighter
dami factors...weight/ ung series ng cymbals...etc..bottom line let ur ears decide..

and ndi porket ginamit ni ganitong artist eh gagayahin mo na rin..

sample nlng c Marco Minnemann meron cya 8" hats, 10" hats sa set nya..pero main nya is 14 or 13..
meron pang drummer c John Myer 18 inches ung main hats nya..

listen to both hats na pinagpipilian mo...anyway natututo naman ung EARS natin..
100% may tunog ka na hahanapin...so let that be the start of your journey in finding the right hats for you bro..

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Re: 13 inch vs 14 inch hihat
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2010, 07:39:11 PM »
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