ano ba ang secret to playing 'malalim' jazz guitar?

[jinno]

is it the vibrato?  the picking? tsaka ano ba talaga ang standard/usual scale na gamit? dehins kasi malalim mga jazz licks ko eh. hehe....

[kawayan_strat]

constant practice and research,dapat constant jamming din w/others
who also likes jazz.

[sweeplikevai]

you dont have to be malalim.... go on let it flow,,, gawa ka lang ng sarili mong scales,, pag naramdaman mung masaya ka na, ayun nadale mu na ung secreto ng JAZZ scales mo... PRACTICE!!!!

[shadowm00n]

is it the vibrato?  the picking? tsaka ano ba talaga ang standard/usual scale na gamit? dehins kasi malalim mga jazz licks ko eh. hehe....

everything is involve here.. everything.. diskarte, tiempo, lahat! and.. needs a lot of soul when you play!

[psychic_sushi]

rhythm.

have a strong rhythmic foundation and vocabulary. you can't play the part if there's no rhythm, you ain't got a thing if you don't have the swing.

then you can focus on harmony and melody. nearly all guitarists spend the majority of their guitar life with just scales, noodles and spaghetti. but if you have a strong innate sense of rhythm, you can play anything over any chord.

and while you are at it, listen, listen, listen... study the styles of the "malalim" players. eat, sleep and [gooey brown stuff] jazz. soon, it'll be part of your system. you may get in an hour, it may take you half your lifetime. but its DAMN worth it

find a good sensei that can lead you to the path. its just a path. the destination is elusive.

[kawayan_strat]

rhythm.

have a strong rhythmic foundation and vocabulary. you can't play the part if there's no rhythm, you ain't got a thing if you don't have the swing.

then you can focus on harmony and melody. nearly all guitarists spend the majority of their guitar life with just scales, noodles and spaghetti. but if you have a strong innate sense of rhythm, you can play anything over any chord.

and while you are at it, listen, listen, listen... study the styles of the "malalim" players. eat, sleep and [gooey brown stuff] jazz. soon, it'll be part of your system. you may get in an hour, it may take you half your lifetime. but its DAMN worth it

find a good sensei that can lead you to the path. its just a path. the destination is elusive.

MISMO!

[nardski]

there are 3 approach to jazz improvisation to check your progress or improve on which area you lack:
1. scale/s
2. chord/s (improvising using chord tones)
3. rhythmic
  "Or a combination of all three"
i suggest you also jam with all sorts of musicians... from the best to the worst... ang pinag aralan ko ng 4 years sa conservatory of music ay natutunan ko lang ng 1 month ng constant jamming outside with different musicians kasi hands-on.. you get to see first hand on what works & what doesn't..

[jinno]

thanks folks. i guess there's nothing left to do but jam more often....



ot: i'm looking for a young jazz group(trio or quartet), guitar-based. (ala Johnny Alegre AFFINITY) i'm the a&r for candid records. interested folks can send me their demo at Candid Records Philippines, 3rd floor raymundo building, #14 balete drive quezon city. - 7244832

cheers!

[psychic_sushi]

there are 3 approach to jazz improvisation to check your progress or improve on which area you lack:
1. scale/s
2. chord/s (improvising using chord tones)
3. rhythmic
  "Or a combination of all three"
i suggest you also jam with all sorts of musicians... from the best to the worst... ang pinag aralan ko ng 4 years sa conservatory of music ay natutunan ko lang ng 1 month ng constant jamming outside with different musicians kasi hands-on.. you get to see first hand on what works & what doesn't..

hey nardski! welcome! kumusta mga jap movies natin

[Deacon Blues]

Before anything else, I think you'll have to qualify what you mean by 'malalim' ..

'Malalim' can be anything from Scofield to Scott Henderson to Allan Holdsworth .. or even John McLaughlin

But even that being said, a lot of the guys who we normally assume to be treading on 'not-so-heavy' ground, such as Carlton, Ritenour and their kind, can actually play 'heavy' when they want to ..

Even Benson can sound killer when he wants to ..

Does 'lalim' necessarily connote 'playing outside' or hinting at atonality?

It would definitely help a lot if you could cite some players of that genre so we can provide an appropriate peg ...

Btw, jinno, are you Allan of Candid Records? ..

[jazhombie]

gud posts...

well i think playing deep depends on how you perceive the word 'deep'...
example, playing a sustained or spacy motif- others may say two notes are easy to play but think again how coltrane emphasizes long notes, as well as david torn...pat metheny for instance others may consider him as smooth jazz player example song; 'james', but listen to 'song x'... you'll see differnt kinds of aproaches when dealing with what we call'deep'...

tnx

[jinno]

Btw, jinno, are you Allan of Candid Records? ..

nope, he's my boss.  

[renz_sui]

haha ako hanggang Mejazz nalang.

[superoxy]

tnong ka na lang sa mga bandang ito sa friday:

Hi there! You and your friends are invited to experience this year’s 4th Jazz
Manila Jazz Festival to be held at The Market Market on JUNE 16 Friday. A Free
concert with today’s hottest top jazzers in Manila and Asia.

4th Manila Jazz Festival Final Lineup Of Performers

Sound 5:00 - 5:30
Salindiwa 5:30 - 6:00
Wahijuara 6:00 - 6:30
Jewelmer Jazz Band 6:30 - 7:00
D.C. Aftershock 7:00 -7:30
U.P. Jazz Ensemble 7:30-8:00
Romy Posadas Quartet w/ Mon David 8:00 - 8:30
B.A.T. Project 8:30-9:00
Jamie Oehlers Quartet 9:00-9:30
Lando Bernal and the Phil-Hk Jazz in the City 9:30-10:00
Brass Munkeys 10:00 – 10:30

For more info, visit www.manilajazzfestival.org

[nhojie]

nice comments for this thread.dami kong nasagap at natutunan.
lahat n lng ng mga forumers punta sa jazz festival sa June 16 para
 HAPPY! hehehehehehehehe

[jinno]

tnong ka na lang sa mga bandang ito sa friday:

Hi there! You and your friends are invited to experience this year’s 4th Jazz
Manila Jazz Festival to be held at The Market Market on JUNE 16 Friday. A Free
concert with today’s hottest top jazzers in Manila and Asia.

4th Manila Jazz Festival Final Lineup Of Performers

Sound 5:00 - 5:30
Salindiwa 5:30 - 6:00
Wahijuara 6:00 - 6:30
Jewelmer Jazz Band 6:30 - 7:00
D.C. Aftershock 7:00 -7:30
U.P. Jazz Ensemble 7:30-8:00
Romy Posadas Quartet w/ Mon David 8:00 - 8:30
B.A.T. Project 8:30-9:00
Jamie Oehlers Quartet 9:00-9:30
Lando Bernal and the Phil-Hk Jazz in the City 9:30-10:00
Brass Munkeys 10:00 – 10:30

For more info, visit www.manilajazzfestival.org

check out Mon David's kick-ass vocal improvisations and the bermejo- avenir- tolentino (b.a.t.) project(yes, alang bahista to)!