pickup question

[double DC]

Tanong ko lang, my guitar kasi ko na passive ang pickups, humbucker sa bridge, single coil(hot rail) sa neck, bakit kaya mas malakas pa yung volume nung single coil sa neck kesa sa bridge pickup ko?

[stratman1]

I think it has something to do with the string tension.

[double DC]

^^^ Pano po nakaka affect yun? ano po remedy na pede gawin.

[tumorwarrior]

factor din yata yung height ng pickups or in other words, yung distance ng PUps sa string. i'm not sure though, perhaps may makakapag enlighten sa tin about this

[double DC]

^^ pickup height is ok.

Still scratching my head though???

[jinno]

try reversing the polarity ng humbucker mo.

[Al_Librero]

i think what tumorwarrior meant was that you'll have to compensate the pickup heights.

i have a feeling that the neck pickup is hotter than the bridge pickup. if setting the neck pickup farther and the bridge pickup closer doesn't do the job, you might have to replace one of them.

another alternative is to wire the hot rails in parallel or split coil mode. but it'll sound different, which you might not want.

[stratman1]

Ang na pansin ko, mas malapit sa bridge, mas tighter ang string tesion, mas mababa ang volume as oppose to the neck part na mas loose ang string. HIndi ko alam exactlly ang scientific rationale pero ganun ang napansin ko. Also affects the tone (bassier/thinner). Tingnan mo ang impedance output ng pups mo. Sakin laging mababa ang neck output kesa sa bridge para compensate ang volume level.

[Al_Librero]

maybe because the magnetic field of the pickup was already affecting the strings when it was already too close...

[iced.ink.used.ink]

yup, Al is right,SD hot rails yung mas malakas output.yun lang yun.i match mo yung bridge sa volume ng hot rails by lowering the neck pickup height.hotrails yan..humbucker pa din.ano ba bridge pickup mo?

[radimere]

factor yung hotness ng particular neck pickup mo as al said.

for the sake of discussion, i would also like to point out that bridge pickups are wound hotter than neck pickups. it has to compensate because string vibration is stronger nearer the midpoint of the string length. since stings vibrate in an ellipse, it makes sense na mas malaki ang movement sa pinakagitna, gaya ng sabi ni stratman. so using 2 identical pickups, with the same polepiece-to-string distances, mas malakas talaga ang magiging output ng neck pickup.

pinahaba ko pa e, nasabi naman nang lahat basta yun ang principle.

[double DC]

bridge pickup ko po mga sir is a parallel axis trembucker. PATB-1.
Inexperiment ko na po yung height ng pick up, mas malakas talaga yung neck.

Right now, i'm guessing, mukang papalitin nga yung bridge. Gastos na naman.  

[Al_Librero]

... or yung hot rails ang palitan mo. i think it was specially designed as a bridge pickup.

[double DC]

nah. I like it there. I think i'll put a hi-output HB instead. Tnx for the advice though.

Edit: Add ko pala, ndi naman dati weak sounding yung trembucker e. Last month lang nagkaganon.

[iced.ink.used.ink]

alam ko nga high output yang PATB.

[skunkyfunk]

Puwedeng:

1)  Mahina talaga output ng bridge pickup (in comparison to the hotrails which is a high output pickup)
2)  Phase problems (Check the polarity of your bridge humbucker's 4-conductor wirings)
3)  Bad solder joint/s.
4)  Pickup switch has dirty contacts.
5)  All of the above.  

[iced.ink.used.ink]

one more thing nga pala sa volume with regards to pickup position.i dont think mas lalakas ang tunog? but more on tonal change.kase iba timbre sa opposite side(neck vs bridge) mas bassy ang neck na nami misinterpret na mas malakas.
or maybe im wrong

[radimere]

one more thing nga pala sa volume with regards to pickup position.i dont think mas lalakas ang tunog? but more on tonal change.kase iba timbre sa opposite side(neck vs bridge) mas bassy ang neck na nami misinterpret na mas malakas.
or maybe im wrong

meron

for a more technical explanation than the one i stated, you can refer to:

http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~gmarts/picktimb.htm

"The fundamental is loudest because it vibrates the most."

[iced.ink.used.ink]

wow! thanks..ahaha andun pa yung tone and timbre na ginamit kong term. yun pala yun.gets ko na(medyo )

so in theory,pag nag pluck ka ng string sa bandang neck(wala amp and pickups kunwari) mas madidinig mo malakas kase nga mas nag vibrate.compared sa pag sa bandang bridge ka nag pick or pluck masinsin ang vibration.ayun ang na pi pick up ng errr..pickups.

ganito na lang, double DC, pag neck pickup gamit mo,hinay lang sa pag hit ng strings.ehehehhe.pag bridge,kraaaaanggg!