> Homosexual sex is homosexuality
>> As you have argued quite clearly in several posts, one can engage in homosexual sex (or heterosexual sex) regardless of gender identity. As intercourse does not determine gender identity.
True.
> If a heterosexual male, chooses to engage in homosexuality for whatever reason, then he has chosen homosexuality. Even if it doesn't make him homosexual (if it that thought makes you more comfortable, not saying that I agree though), still he has chosen homosexuality, because homosexual sex is homosexuality. Logic trumps pretensions.
Gender identity precedes and determines sexual orientation. So if he is heterosexual he can't choose to be homosexual just by engaging in same sex intercourse. What happened simply is he just had same sex intercourse, sodomy, or has been part of a threesome or an orgy that could involve same sex intercourse. A woman engaged on a threesome with a male and another woman can't make her homosexual.
homosexual sex is homosexuality is just narrowly putting it.
Using your arguments again, if a male realizes he has a strong tendency to become homosexual, but does not want to act on it (or let it become) for whatever reason. Can't he not make a choice to practice heterosexuality? Or is it prohibited in your religion?
He can practice hetero sex. He can have a wife and children. But he is still homosexual or inherently bisexual depending on his gender identity and sexual orientation. But inhibiting himself from practice such that he just modifies his outside behavior is again, superficial.
technology and know-how aside, if certain factors do cause homosexuality then there is the possibility of procedures that could "reverse" this in the same way people undergo hormone injections and gender re-assignment.
And if these certain factors do cause homosexuality, then homosexuality (or at least the factors or conditions that cause it) can be induced and/or prevented, making choice possible. But what are these factors? Right now its all just opinion as no one has determined exactly what these are.
As to reasons for becoming homosexual such as the claims of predisposition or genetics or the doctrines you've been preaching. Sure, evidence suggests etc. etc. But facts are facts when facts are facts. Statements like "Could be because of" or "highly-likely to have come from" is different from "It is so"
A rhetorical question that deserves a rhetorical response.
Knowing that homosexuality is caused by biological, psychological, mental and environmental factors, how do you intend to change to your favor the pre-natal causes?
How can you reverse all known biological pre-natal causes that are attributed to homosexuality like birth order, uterine environment, brain size and genetic pre disposition?
Suppose that we have the technology to influence the known pre-natal conditions that leads to homosexuality before childbirth, isn't it an etchical question ala-minority report? Trying to prevent what hasn't happened yet and without the consent of the unborn child? Then it would be not a true choice for that unborn child who hasn't yet "turned" gay. It will still not be his choice. Regardless if there is a technological intervention or not, eitherway, it would be not his choice to be straight nor not his choice to be homosexual. The choice is still not in own his hands.
Seems we have reached a predestination paradox.
And please, people can choose to practice homosexuality or not regardless if how they identify themselves, if we go by your arguments. Therefore homosexuality can be chosen, no need for doctrines, just good old common sense. Unless... you are saying that homosexuality is exclusive to homosexuals?
Again you can have same sex, anal sex with another man, oral sex with another man but we know already know that gender identity is boss. If he had anal man to man sex yet identifies as straight, he is straight. They can practice the sexual acts, but they don't become homosexuals nor the sex causes them to be.
