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Offline rickbig41

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Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2013, 09:19:57 AM »
Nag training ako kay guthrie govan.. Di nga lang niya alam

Hahaha..ako din,nagtraining kay andy james,di nya din alam...hahaha...
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« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2013, 02:16:49 PM »
Nag training ako kay guthrie govan.. Di nga lang niya alam

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« Reply #52 on: July 20, 2013, 12:30:12 AM »
sample naman ng guitar slap  :-D

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Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
« Reply #53 on: September 22, 2013, 06:26:41 PM »
Survey lang mga sir! Sino yung mga aral sa music at hindi aral sa music sa atin? i mean yung mga may formal training at wala. ako walang formal training. pagita-gitara lang tapos sulat kanta.  :-D :-D

Edit: as per others request, edited na po ang title...  :-D

Hindi aral. Mahilig lang talaga kumanta. I have a feeling na ako yung parang william hung and all those people sa AI na minotivate ng family and friends na magaling sila kumanta, and it turns out na hindi naman. But, I wanted to prove something... prove as in I wanna discover it myself  :-D

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Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
« Reply #54 on: March 11, 2014, 05:23:27 PM »
talent na cguru.  :cool: haha joke lng. self-taught lng bro, basa dami libro
dyahe lng dahil minsan nasustuck ako dahil hindi ko alam kung ano pang dapat kong matutunan.


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Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
« Reply #55 on: June 12, 2014, 12:00:19 AM »
i was educated by jingle magazine's chord chart.  :)
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me too!

actually bloodline nmin music, but ako lang ang hnd ngtraining or pumasok sa music school. i can read notes a little bit, pero more on OIDO ako. (salamat kay sir fretboard sa pagcorrect nung term) :)
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Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
« Reply #56 on: June 12, 2014, 12:08:02 AM »
never had formal training/studies.

"had" this big theory book at home for a while, scanned it for some time, until i could finally turn the pages without passing out. learned a quite a lot from that book. now i can't find the damn thing.

there are also teachers in youtube. which i think is great.
if you can search for their channel's, look for justinguitar and creativeguitarstudios.

they have like weekly to semi monthly uploads
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« Reply #57 on: June 12, 2014, 12:12:46 AM »
Not formally but, my grand father was musically trained when he was in the army,he taught me some theory and that somehow kick started everything.
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Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2014, 01:34:43 AM »
Aral.. Masarap rin.. Malaking bagay rin talaga lalo na pag sume-session at may sharing.. Laking tulong at ginhawa.. Yet, nakakainggit pa rin minsan yung mga hindi aral pero mas mahusay pa kesa sa mga aral.. Talas kasi ng tenga eh, magaling sumabay, ultimo melody at rhythm, lalo na harmony!
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Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
« Reply #59 on: June 16, 2014, 07:18:54 PM »
Hahaha..ako din,nagtraining kay andy james,di nya din alam...hahaha...


ako nag training sa mga mata ni georgina wilson, sa labi ni solenn heusaff di lang nila alam.   YET. haha
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« Reply #60 on: June 16, 2014, 07:24:27 PM »

ako nag training sa mga mata ni georgina wilson, sa labi ni solenn heusaff di lang nila alam.   YET. haha


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Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
« Reply #61 on: June 16, 2014, 07:34:52 PM »
blues player ako eh i need girls. kaw naman.. metalhead ka no?
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« Reply #62 on: June 16, 2014, 07:48:14 PM »
Just kidding dude,I was just confused with how you learn something from eyes and lips aside from doing makeups.
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Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
« Reply #63 on: June 16, 2014, 08:19:00 PM »
Ako self study/taught lang din, nagstart sa songhits (I remember may kantang "otso-otso" dun sa songhits :lol: ) then may binigay pinsan ko mga scale, finger exercises etc. ung may nakalagay na watermark na "Fade to Black Music" tapos inestafa ng klasmeyt ko dati.  :-(
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Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
« Reply #64 on: June 16, 2014, 08:35:46 PM »
Yung mga self taught magaling kumapa ng song just by ear. Agree?
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Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
« Reply #65 on: June 17, 2014, 05:25:19 PM »
Just kidding dude,I'm was just confused with how you learn something from eyes and lips aside from doing makeups.

hehehe  :-)
lahat naman tayo dito ginaganahan mag solo and mag rock out for the chicks.

hehehe  :wave:

or for the love ones.

parang di na uso yung Guitar Gods ngayun.

nung napanood ko yung podcast interview ni georgina wilson. :cute: :drool: nadurog puso ko so nag slow blues ako sa dilim.

sayang di ko narecord. haaaaaayyy.. di ko na maulit.
 :cry:

nanood nalang ako nung 60seconds ni heart evangelista with ella fitzgerald na sounds..

ang landi nung sustain ko..basta kakaiba. dun ko na conclude.. dun ko nanakukuha yung drive ko. wala sa lalakeng guitar god weheheee...

feeling ko lang ha..lahat tayo may ganung side..chicks and guitars parang mashed potatoes and gravy sila. :) Rainy Season and Spicy Seafood Mami. etc.  (well point of view ko lang yun)

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« Reply #66 on: June 17, 2014, 10:19:50 PM »
Yung mga self taught magaling kumapa ng song just by ear. Agree?

exactly. ung mga aral they need music scores ng particular song.

ung natugtog sa singing Bee, SOP, ASAP, etc. yon mga nka music score sila. mga nag aral. kaya khit ano ilatag mo na kanta saglit lang sa knila, pero tayo we need hours to get the chord patterns and riffs ng song by listening.

opinion lang din. not sure about it. pero when i see my uncle reading notes nung nsa orchestra pa sya, minutes lang buo nya na ung part nya
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« Reply #67 on: June 18, 2014, 10:22:49 AM »
self taught musician here as well.

AS much as I am proud of being a self taught musician, I still feel na yung mga formally trained ang may advantage. :| i wish i took lessons... </3
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Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
« Reply #68 on: June 18, 2014, 05:33:17 PM »
exactly. ung mga aral they need music scores ng particular song.

ung natugtog sa singing Bee, SOP, ASAP, etc. yon mga nka music score sila. mga nag aral. kaya khit ano ilatag mo na kanta saglit lang sa knila, pero tayo we need hours to get the chord patterns and riffs ng song by listening.

opinion lang din. not sure about it. pero when i see my uncle reading notes nung nsa orchestra pa sya, minutes lang buo nya na ung part nya

practice is the key to everything.
No one taught me to use chords, and now im verse at it. especially sa pag iimprovise.

madali lang mabasa ng scores, bigyan mo ng 3hrs per day.. wala pang 1 year, karne na sau yan..
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« Reply #69 on: June 18, 2014, 05:50:06 PM »
practice is the key to everything.
No one taught me to use chords, and now im verse at it. especially sa pag iimprovise.

madali lang mabasa ng scores, bigyan mo ng 3hrs per day.. wala pang 1 year, karne na sau yan..
yes practice is the key. pero syempre dahil nkamulatan natin ung traditional process natin na mga self taught, minsan disregarded na ung matutunan mo bumasa ng notes which is wrong. pag musician dapat flexible.
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« Reply #70 on: June 18, 2014, 07:50:19 PM »
exactly. ung mga aral they need music scores ng particular song.

ung natugtog sa singing Bee, SOP, ASAP, etc. yon mga nka music score sila. mga nag aral. kaya khit ano ilatag mo na kanta saglit lang sa knila, pero tayo we need hours to get the chord patterns and riffs ng song by listening.

opinion lang din. not sure about it. pero when i see my uncle reading notes nung nsa orchestra pa sya, minutes lang buo nya na ung part nya

Not necessarily yung mga "aral" kailangan na agad dapat ng music scores. As much as possible lang naman sana meron, to maximize the time being used sa rehearsals.

self taught musician here as well.

AS much as I am proud of being a self taught musician, I still feel na yung mga formally trained ang may advantage. :| i wish i took lessons... </3

Anong sinabi naten sa katatapos lang na EB? "It's never too late to learn everything." Sobrang hanga ako kay sir Reggie nun nung nagpunta sa EB, nagpaka-totoo siya at talagang willing at eager matuto.. Well may advantage din ang self taught.. May iba sa kanila na mas mahusay pa kesa sa "aral" talaga.

practice is the key to everything.
No one taught me to use chords, and now im verse at it. especially sa pag iimprovise.

madali lang mabasa ng scores, bigyan mo ng 3hrs per day.. wala pang 1 year, karne na sau yan..

Practice and dedication is the key.. Dadali na rin naman yung mga mahihirap sa simula in the long run basta may willingness eh..

yes practice is the key. pero syempre dahil nkamulatan natin ung traditional process natin na mga self taught, minsan disregarded na ung matutunan mo bumasa ng notes which is wrong. pag musician dapat flexible.

Tama, dapat flexible sa mga ensayo at gigs at lalo na pag sumesession. Minsan pa naman mahirap makasundo ang nagbigay ng pyesa, sabay last minute babaguhin.
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« Reply #71 on: June 18, 2014, 08:20:15 PM »
Common misconception lang siguro sa notation eh yung sinasabi nila yung mga aral nang notation bigyan mo nang music sheet at on the spot matutugtog nya yun, honestly hindi pa ko nakarinig nang sight-reader na naperfect yung sheet on the spot, despite the fact that you can clearly see the flow of notes on the sheet nakakaduling pa rin specially if the score was well ruled out(mas nadadalian ako sa handwritten scores) which is a really a pain if you have to do it live. A good foundation on theory and a highly trained ear is really essential to make sight reading a breeze, even the most well-versed musicians still need ample time to fully get hold of a piece out from the sheets. Practicing before the performance is still really a key in perfecting a piece,sheets are merely guides to those who have it,and its always a matter of expanding your repertoire that makes you look like an "on-the-spot" player(yung kunwari di alam para astig). IMO the only difference here is the credibility of the player, a lot will be more aligned to a conservatory geek over a pub scene guitar virtouso, but from a fellow musician's view we'd rather exchange chops and learn stuff from seasoned pub players because we know they are battle hardened and time tested. Learning music really is a matter of eagerness and dedication.
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« Reply #72 on: June 18, 2014, 08:31:44 PM »
Learning music really is a matter of eagerness and dedication.

yan talaga yon! DAPAT MAY PUSO!

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« Reply #73 on: June 18, 2014, 08:39:24 PM »
Well the advantage of sight readers is how they manage to fake it without messing it up.hehe
That's one thing I've noticed except lang if they are reading a piece of a classical music which is specific. One thing I've noticed sa mga informally trained fellows is they have a good ear but when communicating with other peeps like the formally trained one,they don't know the terms.

I know people who can really sight read on the spot, but it took a lot of practice as well.
It depends on the instrument also.
I salute the senyor of the scene formally or informally trained,for me it's about experience and making the music feel good,make it swing or whatever it is. You should have heart for this as well,not just reading or playing music technically. Like blues it takes a big deal of feel to it,it's not inborn,hehe.It's not about where did you study or who taught you or you a have a long line of experience.

Anyway aral ako,one advantage is studying books on my own but experience still brings a big factor on your playing.
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Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
« Reply #74 on: June 19, 2014, 05:02:05 PM »
self taught  --> aral pa rin yan diba?
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