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Do you clean your cymbals?

Yes
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No
11 (55%)

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Offline omnicloud7

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Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« on: April 10, 2010, 09:47:48 PM »
Saw this in other forums, Na-intriga ako sa topic! :lol: They say that the patina's what makes the cymbal age, giving it a new tone and sound. Napapansin ko nga rin talaga na a cymbal does sound much more darker and richer as it ages, some prefer this, siguro mostly Jazz drummers, kasi mas nagbleblend na talaga yung tunog nung cymbal. Plus we should never underestimate the power of the stick, nagmemellow yung cymbal dahil lumalambot kahit papaano yung alloy nung cymbals over time due to hitting, ano sa tingin niyo?

After cleaning cymbals, I also do notice that it begins to sound brighter again, siguro kasi yung mga dirt na nastuck sa mga grooves nung cymbal nawala na? so mas madami ng vibrations and attack. Bumabalik yung shimmer! Mas loud na siya ulet.

I always hated that "new cymbal" sound, mas prefer ko yung "aged/darker" sound it produces after time. Just wanted to get your insights mga sir. Let's make this a fun and interesting topic. Thanks!  :-)

Offline redvillain

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2010, 10:21:38 PM »
same here, i dont personally go for the NEW cymbal sound kasi malakas tlga, but in the other end hindi ko rin nmn gusto na masyadong dark ung sound niya, so i clean it lightly hehehe so that it would sound somewhere in between.

Offline bonzter

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2010, 12:07:12 AM »
Sa akin naman,I dont clean the traditionally made cymbals, like the K's but for the Brilliant, nililinis ko talaga, kasi mawawala ang character ng pagiging clear and bright and tunog ng brilliant cymbals.
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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2010, 08:16:05 AM »
Z Customs kasi ako (Primary aquired cymbals Z Custom Dynobeat hats, 19 Proj Crash).... must clean talaga... brilliant finish trip ko...

Offline plep

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2010, 08:20:04 AM »
i don't clean mine. i don't care how my cymbals look, just how they sound, and some cymbals do sound better when left to build up a nice patina. there are some, though, that don't really sound all that different whether clean or not--my 18" AAXplosion, for one. at dahil as good if not better ang tunog pag madumi ang cymbal, di ko na sila nililinis.

nakakatipid ako sa pera dahil hindi ko kailangan bumili ng kung anu-anong cleaning products, hindi ko pa kailangan magkandahirap linisin ang mga pahirapan linisin. pasok na pasok ang hindi paglinis ng cymbals sa pagiging kuripot at tamad ko hahaha


Offline redvillain

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2010, 12:29:10 PM »
well since nasa cleaning thread na rin tayo, do you think soaking the cymbal in coke will remove the dirt?

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2010, 12:35:24 PM »
to clean.. pero not exactly brilliant... hahaha ang hirap at nakakatamad mag kuskos...

hangang ganyan lang kaya ko..

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« Last Edit: April 11, 2010, 12:38:11 PM by NiardicA »

Offline mambo

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2010, 08:26:37 PM »
minsan pag bago nakaka oc rin dahil bago pa eh, ero minsan hinahayaan ko na lang. punas punas lang.hehe
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Offline omnicloud7

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2010, 01:10:55 PM »
Yung mga iba sa US, totoo nga talaga, binabaon nila yung cymbals nila sa lupa! Yung isang sikat na drummer daw for 2-3 years ata binabaon. grabe.  :lol:

Offline imaginaryeric

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2010, 02:03:29 PM »
minsan pag bago nakaka oc rin dahil bago pa eh, ero minsan hinahayaan ko na lang. punas punas lang.hehe

Actually totoo ito. Nakaka-OC mga fingerprints sa bagong cymbal, lalo na pag hindi mo fingerprints. Pero in time, I realized, WTH, stick with the program and let it age.

So hindi ko na pinupunasan yung cymbals ko. :D
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Offline wilpredo

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2010, 07:58:44 PM »
ako brilliant cymbals lang nililinis ko like a customs kasi OC ako sa finger prints and stick marks  :lol:  pero yung dark crash ko di ko na nililinis  :-)
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Offline redvillain

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2010, 08:49:17 PM »
Yung mga iba sa US, totoo nga talaga, binabaon nila yung cymbals nila sa lupa! Yung isang sikat na drummer daw for 2-3 years ata binabaon. grabe.  :lol:

parang sand blasting pre, ung ride ni benny greb ung sand ride.

Offline jake z

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2010, 01:29:53 PM »
I wonder kung ano itsura ng cymbals kapag na sand blast. :?

Offline mambo

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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2010, 01:48:27 PM »
I wonder kung ano itsura ng cymbals kapag na sand blast. :?

diba yung meinl na ride ni benny greb naka sandblast?
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Offline jake z

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2010, 02:39:20 PM »
pa post naman ng pic sir nun ride... byzance ba?

Offline omnicloud7

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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2010, 02:57:09 PM »
Ito yung Meinl Sand Ride Benny Greb Sig. Sa video sinabi niya na kaya sinandblast kasi yun talaga habol niya, yung "aged" effect. :lol:


Offline jake z

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2010, 03:20:52 PM »
Ito yung Meinl Sand Ride Benny Greb Sig. Sa video sinabi niya na kaya sinandblast kasi yun talaga habol niya, yung "aged" effect. :lol:



byzance nga... ang cute. parang semi brilliant finish.hehe. e pano yung mga vault cymbals ng sabian? di ba nakabaon din yun?

Offline mambo

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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2010, 03:28:35 PM »
Ito yung Meinl Sand Ride Benny Greb Sig. Sa video sinabi niya na kaya sinandblast kasi yun talaga habol niya, yung "aged" effect. :lol:



haha kulit nung benny greb na prang simpson inspired na caricature. hehe
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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2010, 02:36:38 AM »
sa akin din di ko nililimis masyado....mas maganda sa akin yun lalo na sa mga gig ko...

Offline redvillain

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2010, 07:58:01 AM »
hanep din yang ride ni benny greb, pwera pa sa aged effect gusto niya crashable siya, tapos ung bell somewhere parang bell ng mga heavy rides then pagka nag rride siya ung dating medyo bright... man this is one flexible cymbal!

Offline mahikawon666

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2010, 09:49:51 AM »
to clean.. pero not exactly brilliant... hahaha ang hirap at nakakatamad mag kuskos...

hangang ganyan lang kaya ko..

Newly aquired Zildjian 14" Dynobeat hats... pati Z logo nilagyan ko... hahaha




hahaha labo pics... as you can see di ko parin napa kintab..... dadalin ko na nga alng kai Autoexec.... hahaha
congrats sa cymbals mo di ko lang nabutan yun binibenta mo....sayang mura p

Offline cs_mapper

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2010, 12:38:15 PM »
nung kapanahunan ko sa drums mas gusto ko super clean mga cymbals ko kasi nasa rock/metal/grunge/  band ako kaya i need all the penetration/attack, longer decay, brilliance etc etc sa mga cymbals ko. i even use a power ride para mas makapal pa rin yung background shimmer yet washy yet with a little warmth tonality wise hehe pag ride ako sa bandang gitna at super loud naman pag nag ride ako sa bell and bombastic ang tunog pag nag-crash ako dun hehe. Paiste rules tlga for rock drumming afaic!!! yung EFX cymbal ko ang lupit ang liit pero ang ingay sarap magaksento dun hehe!

kapag pinuntahan ko sa tata boy lopez (RIP my friend) sa bandang angeles ayun hehe
sarap pakkingan mga super vintage cymbals nya (malinis sila pero di na makintab) na swak na swak tlga pag nag jazz sila lalu na pag swing or fast be-bop jazz. ok din sa mga classic pop/rock tunes.
trip din nya magbaon ng cymbals sa lupa kaso ninakaw daw yung 3 ride and crash cymbals nya na sana after a year gagamitin na sana nya hehe.
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Offline shaun_kuyukot

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Re: Cymbals: To clean/Not to clean
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2010, 11:23:54 AM »
The dark sounding cymbals, After using I just use a cotton cloth to get the moisture and maybe sweat after playing.

For the Brilliant finish cymbals - I use a cymbals cleaner, To get that bright cutting sound.

I really depends on you. Hahaha.

Wala naman rules sa drums eh.  :-D
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2010, 02:00:29 PM »
kapag pinuntahan ko sa tata boy lopez (RIP my friend) sa bandang angeles ayun hehe
sarap pakkingan mga super vintage cymbals nya (malinis sila pero di na makintab) na swak na swak tlga pag nag jazz sila lalu na pag swing or fast be-bop jazz. ok din sa mga classic pop/rock tunes.
trip din nya magbaon ng cymbals sa lupa kaso ninakaw daw yung 3 ride and crash cymbals nya na sana after a year gagamitin na sana nya hehe.

I was lucky enough to own one of sir Boy's cymbals. I bought his 70's Avedis 21" Medium Ride.
Pero binenta ko na rin kay herbiboy.
I might reconsider buying it back.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2010, 02:04:24 PM by Gep »

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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2010, 02:34:33 PM »
ano mga panlinis niyo sa cymbals niyo?  :-D
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