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Offline panterica

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Tama Iron Cobra thread
« on: June 25, 2006, 10:27:17 AM »
anyone who knows the difference between a power glide and a rolling glide?
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Offline Gep

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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2006, 09:32:17 AM »
Offset cam ang power glide, concentric (circular) ang sa Rolling glide.
Yun lang.  :wink:

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rolling glide vs power glide?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2006, 08:57:05 PM »
to tama users, whether single peds or double peds. whats the diff between these two guys? im planning to buy kase in the future. salamat salamat
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Re: rolling glide vs power glide?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2006, 11:50:23 PM »
tnx bro, can you further explain this. like if i want speed which should i go to.. what separate them from each other? any big difference? whats the main feature of these two pedals. tnx
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Re: rolling glide vs power glide?
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2006, 12:08:55 AM »
I used to own and play a Rolling Glide Iron Cobra double pedal.  This model has a concentric cam, which means, the cam (the sprocket where the chain travels) has a circular profile.  If you look at the pedal on its side view, you'll notice that the cam is round and it is mounted on its center.  Because of that, the pedal offers a uniform response.  Based on my experiences, I enjoyed the smooth, even response of the Rolling Glide model.

Meanwhile, the Power Glide model's cam is mounted off-set, meaning, it's cam is mounted off-center.  Because of the off-set mounting, the distance travelled by the beater/chain/footboard mechanism becomes shorter, and there's more speed and power compared to a concentric cam pedal.  So if you're a drummer who needs to take advantage of quicker and more powerful pedal footwork, the Power Glide model can become very helpful.  I've tried a Power Glide model, and for me it feels easier nailing down those faster bass drum licks.

Both Power Glide and Rolling Glide (and the Flexi Glide) offer virtually the same features.  The differences among these three models are its cam systems and drive systems (chain or belt).
« Last Edit: November 07, 2006, 12:12:01 AM by drumster »

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Re: rolling glide vs power glide?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2006, 12:22:25 AM »
ahh ok.. gamit ko ngayon is gibraltar 6611 which is almost same feel ng iron cobrta jr, so siguro rolling glide and structure nitong gibraltar.. tnx bro.. saw you at tiendesitas last week of oct yata, nice job! =)
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Re: rolling glide vs power glide?
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2006, 12:30:44 AM »
The concentric cam is somehow the standard cam design for modern drum pedals, kaya most likely concentric cam nga yung Gibraltar pedal mo (correct me guys if I'm wrong).

Talaga, napanuod mo yung gig namin sa Tiendesitas?  Sana nagpakita ka sa akin hehe!  Thanks for the props!  :-)

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Re: rolling glide vs power glide?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2006, 12:41:01 AM »
oonga siguro standard ang structure ng gibraltar ped. ill try din muna to research on the elims peds, since interchangeble and cams nito.

yup bro, trip ko ngyn mga drummer mga groove base ng drummers, tasteful drumming, mnaglalagay lng kung kylangan.. k-church ko rin si christian ung bassist nyo b4 kaso taga ibang chapter siya. COOL.
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Re: rolling glide vs power glide?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2006, 12:52:35 AM »
Yeah, check mo yung Eliminator pedals ng Pearl.  Check out their different cams.  I think Pearl's cam explanations can help you become more familiar with how cams influence the feel and performance of pedals.

I'm using a Pearl Eliminator double pedal right now.  I made a review of it in my blogsite.  Click mo na lang yung link sa blog ko (on my siggy) then look for it under the Reviews section.

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Tama Iron Cobra Jr. pedals, drop clutch...
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2006, 08:24:08 PM »
ok poh ba ung jr. iron cobra? (power glide) na double peds???

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ok din poh ba mag drop clutch?



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Re: Tama Iron Cobra Jr. pedals, drop clutch...
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2006, 11:07:51 AM »
you'll be needint he drop clutch if you wanted to play your double pedals na naka close pa din yun hi hats mo..hope that helps..cheers

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Re: Tama Iron Cobra Jr. pedals, drop clutch...
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2006, 03:45:56 PM »
tnx poh sir jp! magkakaroon poh b ng x-mas sale sa inyo? magkanu poh ung pearl drop clutch?
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Re: Tama Iron Cobra Jr. pedals, drop clutch...
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2006, 09:09:14 PM »
ai sowee poh sir drumster...


btw... may nag alok sakin n2ng jr. cobra... 7.5K ok lang naman siya... kaso d ko lan kung ok lng ung 7.5 para dun... bilin ko sana as a christmas gift for myself... tnx!
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tama iron cobra and iron cobra jr
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2006, 04:38:17 PM »
ano pinagkaiba neto? thanks
matututo kaya ako magdrums? kelan kaya iyon...

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Re: tama iron cobra and iron cobra jr
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2006, 03:33:48 AM »
The Iron Cobra is Tama's top-of-the-line series of pedals.

The Iron Cobra Jr. is the mid-level model.  It doesn't have most of the high-end Iron Cobra's high-tech features.

Check out all the details here --- http://www.tama.com/drums/tama_link.asp?page=http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/world/products/hardware/pedal/index.html .

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Re: tama iron cobra and iron cobra jr
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2006, 12:01:13 PM »
thanks sir mod!
matututo kaya ako magdrums? kelan kaya iyon...

need gear: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=28593

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Re: tama iron cobra and iron cobra jr
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2006, 12:06:58 PM »
Si elevenmirror may IC Jr. at IC PowerGlide. Check mo.  :-D

Offline Chopstix

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Iron Cobra Pedals - Rolling glide and Power glide
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2007, 11:52:05 AM »
ano po ba ang talagang pinagkaiba nitong 2 pedals na to?

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Re: Iron Cobra Pedals - Rolling glide and Power glide
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2007, 12:12:15 PM »
Rolling glide - Concentric cam. Round-shaped cam delivers a smooth, uniform attack of beater to bass drumhead.
Power glide - Offset cam. Nautilus-shaped cam delivers an accelerating attack of beater to bass drumhead.
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Re: Iron Cobra Pedals - Rolling glide and Power glide
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2007, 12:57:51 PM »
in short...buy pearl eliminators  :-D

kasi merong ganung cams na included sa pearl unlike sa tama na bibilin mo pareho kung gusto mo ng iba ibang feel

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Re: Tama Iron Cobra thread
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2007, 03:59:49 PM »
in short...buy pearl eliminators  :-D

kasi merong ganung cams na included sa pearl unlike sa tama na bibilin mo pareho kung gusto mo ng iba ibang feel

@peeves24 - :-) my friend is actually thinking of getting the pearl eliminators so i've told him about the different cams included. im using the power glide at the moment though.

guys, would you know kung pwede ba mabili separately yung Cobra Coil? it seems na sa rolling glide pa lang available to pero baka pwede ring ikabit sa power/flexi glide.
 

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Re: Tama Iron Cobra thread
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2007, 04:01:04 AM »
guys, would you know kung pwede ba mabili separately yung Cobra Coil? it seems na sa rolling glide pa lang available to pero baka pwede ring ikabit sa power/flexi glide.

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Re: Tama Iron Cobra thread
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2007, 02:30:43 PM »
Mukhang cool ung Chrome Cobras!!! Limited Edition
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Re: Tama Iron Cobra thread
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2007, 03:55:08 PM »
Badtrip naman o! Wala pang isang taon ICs ko may bago na!  :-D