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Offline $trayC@t

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« Reply #325 on: August 23, 2008, 12:56:57 AM »
pero malaki din ba ang diff in terms of durability ng medium thin VS. thin?

There is a difference but not really a night and day difference. Among the ones i've owned and tried out the tolerance in  weight difference can be as little 100 grms to as much 350 grms in larger sizes.

What i can say that is noticable between them is feel & response. A Meduim thin tend to feel  a little stiff but then it has a full bodied sound and longer decay. A Thin cymbal weight on the other hand feels nice upon stick contact but also has the tendency to sound splashy specialy on sizes 16" & below  :roll:
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« Reply #326 on: August 24, 2008, 02:20:51 AM »
thanks for the info sir $trayc@t  :-)

pero malaki din ba ang diff in terms of durability ng medium thin VS. thin?

There's still an ongoing discussion about the durability issues of the thickness of a cymbal... Yung iba sabi mas tumatagal yung mga makakapal dahil nga daw makapal nga, pero yung iba ang sabi mas flexible daw yung maninipis kasi pag hinampas mo parang sumasabay lang dun sa stick hindi lumalaban tulad ng makakapal... Para sakin parang mas agree ako dun sa mas matibay yung maninipis kesa makakapal (parehong high-end), pero ewan ko, hindi pa naman ako nakasira ng cymbals para mag conclude..
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« Reply #327 on: August 24, 2008, 09:22:37 AM »
Other than a Factory Defect i had always believed that it is improper use and abuse that breaks a cymbal regardless of thickness.

If played properely a cymbal can last longer than it's owner's Lifetime  :roll:
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« Reply #328 on: August 24, 2008, 09:50:26 AM »
There's still an ongoing discussion about the durability issues of the thickness of a cymbal... Yung iba sabi mas tumatagal yung mga makakapal dahil nga daw makapal nga, pero yung iba ang sabi mas flexible daw yung maninipis kasi pag hinampas mo parang sumasabay lang dun sa stick hindi lumalaban tulad ng makakapal...

From my observation Hitting Thin Cymbals harder than necesarry will eventually break it.  Now if you hit Thicker cymbals (medium & heavier) with the same abusive force mas Mauuna mabale yung stick before you break the cymbal. But of course the kind of  stck itself is to be taken into consideration also. 

Experience ko lang yan but i'm sure there are many that will say otherwise :roll:
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« Reply #329 on: August 24, 2008, 07:04:13 PM »
ay, saakin po base on experience, hindi ganun, yung scimitar ko ay malki narin yung crack niya pati may keyhole yung ride ko. eh alam ko pag new scimitar(14" HH, 16" Crash, 20" ride pareho lang ng kapal. siguro depende in kung gaano katagal yung cymbals na ginamit mo at dapat nasa proper at ingat ng pagpapalo.

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« Reply #330 on: August 25, 2008, 02:41:19 AM »
tawag na tayo sa Mythbusters? :lol:

IMO mas tatagal siya pag tama ang palo mo, iniiba ko ang palo ko depende sa kapal nung cymbal...madali lang naman sanayin ang sarili eh  :-)
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« Reply #331 on: August 25, 2008, 07:09:00 PM »
anyone here using a K pre-aged dry light ride?
i'm looking for a washy ride that would complement for my 18" k dark thin crash.
any insights on this ride? does it wash closely like a K custom dark ride?
thanks!  :-D

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« Reply #332 on: August 25, 2008, 07:10:01 PM »
what series ng zildjian yung super dark color?

nakita ko yung sa sight ng JB,,  :-D
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« Reply #333 on: August 25, 2008, 07:24:17 PM »
anyone here using a K pre-aged dry light ride?
i'm looking for a washy ride that would complement for my 18" k dark thin crash.
any insights on this ride? does it wash closely like a K custom dark ride?
thanks!  :-D

may pre-aged K ako (ginagamit ko as main crash, kaso dati pang light ride din). washy siya kaso di nawawala yung "tah-tah-tah" niya. ayus yung ride, woody stick sound with dark wash, solid bell, powerful crash.

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« Reply #334 on: August 25, 2008, 07:28:13 PM »
may pre-aged K ako (ginagamit ko as main crash, kaso dati pang light ride din). washy siya kaso di nawawala yung "tah-tah-tah" niya. ayus yung ride, woody stick sound with dark wash, solid bell, powerful crash.

so ang pinagkaiba niya sa dark ride eh ung woody stick sound? kasi sa dark ride mejo bright pa. tama ba? correct me if i'm wrong?  :-D

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« Reply #335 on: August 25, 2008, 08:24:25 PM »
I have the K custom dark ride and I had played the pre-aged dry light ride.  The pre-aged has that airy wash as described by plep as "tah tah tah"  The ping is woodier sounding than the dark ride.  The dark ride however has a slightly shimmery ping although still woody sounding to an extent.  The wash is also warm though not as airy.  I think the pre-aged will work well with traditional jazz.  The K custom dark ride is more of a "modern" type of jazz sound.  Considering that "modern" sound, the dark ride somewhat sounds brighter.

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« Reply #336 on: August 25, 2008, 09:32:13 PM »
I have the K custom dark ride and I had played the pre-aged dry light ride.  The pre-aged has that airy wash as described by plep as "tah tah tah"  The ping is woodier sounding than the dark ride.  The dark ride however has a slightly shimmery ping although still woody sounding to an extent.  The wash is also warm though not as airy.  I think the pre-aged will work well with traditional jazz.  The K custom dark ride is more of a "modern" type of jazz sound.  Considering that "modern" sound, the dark ride somewhat sounds brighter.

yep maganda analysis ni sir wipeout. mas litaw yung stick sound ng k custom dark. di ko sasabihing "bright" per se yung k custom, brighter lang siya kumpara sa pre-aged k. mas defined ang stick sound at mas mataas ang pitch niya, lalo na sa bell. tsaka di kasing smooth yung crash ng kc dark sa pre-aged k.

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« Reply #337 on: August 25, 2008, 10:30:39 PM »
yep maganda analysis ni sir wipeout. mas litaw yung stick sound ng k custom dark. di ko sasabihing "bright" per se yung k custom, brighter lang siya kumpara sa pre-aged k. mas defined ang stick sound at mas mataas ang pitch niya, lalo na sa bell. tsaka di kasing smooth yung crash ng kc dark sa pre-aged k.

wow! salamat sa mga reply niyo! na enlighten ako sa kung anong hinahanap kong tunog which would be the dark ride. maraming salamat bros plep and wipeout!  :-)
ngayon, sino may binebenta jan na dark ride? haha. hanap nalang ako sa classifieds! salamat po!  :wink:
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« Reply #338 on: August 26, 2008, 04:38:47 PM »
@$trayC@t, raLpH_pEtRucCi, autoexec, kimpoy19, intake.

Thanks for the enlightenment guys! Nakatulong mga inputs nyo. It gave me an idea on what kind of zildjian cymbals to buy next since i play two different kinds of genre. Kumbaga soft to loud music eh hehe, and finding a versatile cymbal that would fit for different kinds of music. Cymbals aren't that cheap ey.  :-D
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« Reply #339 on: August 27, 2008, 05:34:47 PM »
 :-D
ayos lang po yun.  :-D

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« Reply #340 on: September 05, 2008, 08:13:41 AM »
ZILDJIAN, The only serious choice.  :-D
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« Reply #341 on: September 09, 2008, 06:00:55 PM »
yeah right.  :-D
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« Reply #342 on: September 22, 2008, 09:08:29 AM »
help naman identifying these hats!!

wala na syang logos e, pero may nakaingrave parin na zildjan avedis, 13" ito
ano kayang model too?? help mga pinoydrummers!!!

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« Reply #343 on: September 22, 2008, 02:09:48 PM »
parang K's. either Avedis or K's.
medyo mahirap pero pwede mo kaya makuhanan ng pic yung engraving?

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« Reply #344 on: September 22, 2008, 03:01:57 PM »
Avedis yung lathing niyan e.

Wala kang makitang logo sa ilalim ng bawat cymbal?

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« Reply #345 on: September 22, 2008, 04:14:19 PM »
avedis yan bro.  :wink: pero di ko sure yung exact model...

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« Reply #346 on: September 22, 2008, 04:36:54 PM »
yup avedis yan. kita sa lathing at hammering.

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« Reply #347 on: September 22, 2008, 08:08:48 PM »
I think that is avedis nga. kasi iba yung K eh. kahit may light na K, iba parin yung kintab at aura ng Avdis, A.

galing nila.
gusto ko ritong magamit sa zildjian yung Istanbul?. saang family po ba kasama yun?
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« Reply #348 on: September 23, 2008, 01:08:38 AM »
meron ser kaso di ko makunan ng pic e, may logo nung zildjan at yng turkish cymbals at yng parang turcish na sulat ata, sabi ni wax_static 80's model daw e kasi wala daw serical sa ilalim. pero may nakakalam ba dito kung what type ? 13" sya ser.

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« Reply #349 on: September 23, 2008, 11:33:55 AM »
ZILDJIAN ZHT meron na bang may gamit nyan d2 sa pinoydrum?? set ZHT