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« Reply #1150 on: September 25, 2014, 12:49:28 PM »
Crash of doom crashable ride siya! Hahahahaha

May nagbenta sakin k heavy ride,kaso wala na logos,di ko na kinuha,hehe,Kunin mo na yun
Kay vhinming na k/z hats niya,not bad for 8k!

Yup HHx at ha sabians ako,Tama sa papi Ralph,and it projects louder.so panalo pero
Grabe naman kasi prices ng sabians dito at di masyado marami variety at magsusingit pa nagbebenta

Paps sonic,hand hammered un kasi based sa hammering niya it's inconsistent.
Siguro difference ngayon ng bagong k con e computerized ang hulma ng cymbal tapos
Hand hammering na Lang yung later process,kaya yung k con na hats is to die for,wala nako pera!
Hahahaha!

paps wala pa akong pera! ayoko maging isa na lang yung basic triad ng cymbals ko  :lol:
nappressure na nga ako eh, kumokonti na ang mga 13" K/Z hats sa wild
singilin ko na kaya yung 100k na utang sakin ng ermat ko?  :wink:
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« Reply #1151 on: September 25, 2014, 12:54:33 PM »
True  :lol: eh di bili ng HHX Omni pang crash ride  :wink:

blasphemy! nasa zildjian thread tayo  :-D

May nagbebenta ng 13"K/Z dito for 7.5K pero nabili na. sayang wala sa acquisition plan ko ngayon eh. but yes, especially compared to the current crop of K and K Customs, HH/HHX talaga. I really like how the new HHX Omnis sound on record. Pero BTT: 22" K Heavy Ride talaga. Dark and dry enough to be a K, enough ping and wash like an aged A.

Question nga pala, ang mga KCon ba machine hammered pa rin?

ako nakabili nun. kung gusto mo, i'll give it for 7k, its 1st generation, much older than vinming's. nothing wrong with it. its just my taste is different now. i bought it because i was being nostalgic of its chick sound but i realized i like fast and crisp hats now.

eto sya vs my 12" remix
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« Reply #1152 on: September 25, 2014, 12:56:24 PM »
paps wala pa akong pera! ayoko maging isa na lang yung basic triad ng cymbals ko  :lol:
nappressure na nga ako eh, kumokonti na ang mga 13" K/Z hats sa wild
singilin ko na kaya yung 100k na utang sakin ng ermat ko?  :wink:


Hahaha! Tapos mamili Ka sa jb! Hahaha! Singilin mo na si Inay! Hahahaha
Ako nga self control gusto ko Kunin pati k cons hat,pero ang dami ko gas this year!(heartbroken kasi)
Hahah.di ko narealize,self control na din.pero baka pag nabenta ko pedal ko Kunin ko hats! Hahaha
Yup the old k/z is to die for kun sakin Lang,hehe. It's dark,loud and fast at swabeeeeeee. :cute:
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« Reply #1153 on: September 25, 2014, 01:25:40 PM »

Hahaha! Tapos mamili Ka sa jb! Hahaha! Singilin mo na si Inay! Hahahaha
Ako nga self control gusto ko Kunin pati k cons hat,pero ang dami ko gas this year!(heartbroken kasi)
Hahah.di ko narealize,self control na din.pero baka pag nabenta ko pedal ko Kunin ko hats! Hahaha
Yup the old k/z is to die for kun sakin Lang,hehe. It's dark,loud and fast at swabeeeeeee. :cute:

that early DMB hi hat sound = K/Z hats. sobrang elibs sakin yun! Actually ang gusto ko lang naman sa Zildjian yung K/Z tsaka yung Heavy Ride. Hirap din ang dami kong gas ngayon kasi basag din ang puso ko  :lol: Sir peevs, pag may pera na ako, yun na!

akala ko dati yung KCon naka machine hammered pero random yung programming kaya parang hand hammered ang dating. Sana man lang maging mura yung Kerope line, ang dugas eh  :-(
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« Reply #1154 on: September 25, 2014, 02:17:22 PM »
blasphemy! nasa zildjian thread tayo  :-D

ako nakabili nun. kung gusto mo, i'll give it for 7k, its 1st generation, much older than vinming's. nothing wrong with it. its just my taste is different now. i bought it because i was being nostalgic of its chick sound but i realized i like fast and crisp hats now.

eto sya vs my 12" remix


pag may A new beats na 7k game HAHAHAHAHA ako din eh, dating K/Z fan, pero mas gusto ko na ang crisp hat sound. <3
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha


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« Reply #1155 on: September 25, 2014, 02:47:58 PM »
Gas na! Hahaha,pero dati gusto ko yung sound ng hybrid,tsaka master sound k
Pero bibili ako sa Tom lee ng hats yun sinubukan ko,hehe,I didn't like the sound
And took home a pair of new beats! Hahaha,lumang logo. The new logo of zildjian
A is getting a little worse. The new logo a new beat sounds like a different hihat.
It doesn't have that qualities anymore with the old version of new beats.
Crashes doesn't sing that much anymore,ang nagustuhan ko na Lang sa new logo version
E sweet ride brilliant,it sounds like the traditional finish old logo sweet ride with louder ping
Hehe.pero crash of doom pa din akoooo! Hahaha.
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« Reply #1156 on: September 25, 2014, 02:58:57 PM »
Gas na! Hahaha,pero dati gusto ko yung sound ng hybrid,tsaka master sound k
Pero bibili ako sa Tom lee ng hats yun sinubukan ko,hehe,I didn't like the sound
And took home a pair of new beats! Hahaha,lumang logo. The new logo of zildjian
A is getting a little worse. The new logo a new beat sounds like a different hihat.
It doesn't have that qualities anymore with the old version of new beats.
Crashes doesn't sing that much anymore,ang nagustuhan ko na Lang sa new logo version
E sweet ride brilliant,it sounds like the traditional finish old logo sweet ride with louder ping
Hehe.pero crash of doom pa din akoooo! Hahaha.



same thoughts. A Sweet Ride nalang ang okay for me sa bago. and definitely, old new beats > new series new beats.

crashes din, mejo meh na. lately naiimpress ako sa 18" na istanbuls
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« Reply #1157 on: September 25, 2014, 03:11:27 PM »


same thoughts. A Sweet Ride nalang ang okay for me sa bago. and definitely, old new beats > new series new beats.

crashes din, mejo meh na. lately naiimpress ako sa 18" na istanbuls

Yung istanbuls nung sa flr project sa wrecking ball cover nila,I love that sound pati yung trashy ride!
Gusto ko yun!  :drool:
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« Reply #1158 on: September 25, 2014, 06:10:55 PM »


same thoughts. A Sweet Ride nalang ang okay for me sa bago. and definitely, old new beats > new series new beats.

crashes din, mejo meh na. lately naiimpress ako sa 18" na istanbuls

Bumababa ba ang quality ng Zildjian cymbals dahil nag-iba sila ng process, or talagang ganun na ang hanap na sound ng karamihan ng drummers ngayon?
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« Reply #1159 on: September 25, 2014, 06:34:30 PM »
they say nag computerized sila para mas "consistent" daw,hehe. at mapabilis ang production.
so ayan ang effect,hehe
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« Reply #1160 on: September 25, 2014, 07:11:55 PM »
they say nag computerized sila para mas "consistent" daw,hehe. at mapabilis ang production.
so ayan ang effect,hehe

para saan pa yung secret Zildjian alloy recipe kung computerized lang naman  :-( kaya siguro nagkaroon ng Sabian  :wink: diba utol nila yun?
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« Reply #1161 on: September 25, 2014, 07:28:19 PM »
para saan pa yung secret Zildjian alloy recipe kung computerized lang naman  :-( kaya siguro nagkaroon ng Sabian  :wink: diba utol nila yun?

yup,ewan ko kung nacompromise yung secret alloy na yun,pero it all depends on the ears,hehe
mas mataas kasi makaselect ng maganda cymbal na mura sa zildjian,kaya yun ang pies ko.
muntikan nako nagswitch sa istanbul,hehe,may pagka oc kasi ako sa cymbals actually.
Pero yung mga cymbal makers nila palipat lipat din ng company,nabasa ko dati si mark love ng sabian e taga zildjian dati
hehe,tapos si murat guy e nasa paiste dati responsible for the high end cymbals ng paiste na nagshift sa
meinl and developed the byzance series tapos umalis siya at gumawa ng sariling company,hehe.
so ewan ko na lang talaga kung may secret pa.hehe.at madami pa talaga.haha
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« Reply #1162 on: September 25, 2014, 11:07:37 PM »
I don't know about you guys, but I think the 2013 A's with the new logo are killer. My thin crash 18" goes great with all my early 70s A's.

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« Reply #1163 on: September 26, 2014, 12:50:51 AM »
I don't know about you guys, but I think the 2013 A's with the new logo are killer. My thin crash 18" goes great with all my early 70s A's.

hehe,paps its just based on what we hear,syempre we have different taste in cymbals.
first i really love the a customs then gravitated with some a ziljdian,i loved bright sounds.
then a few years back i began to appreciate darker tones. now i want trashy dark sounds
hybrid k customs now are very bright to my ears. :-D
simon phillips still loves the new a logos cymbals. so i respect that. if you love what you hear then go for it sir. :-D
its your personal taste. :)
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« Reply #1164 on: September 30, 2014, 12:04:42 PM »
Sirs! Help uli! Nababasa ko kasi sainyo ngayon mukhang talk of the town ang K/Z hats. Im torn between quick beat and k/z.

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« Reply #1165 on: September 30, 2014, 01:08:09 PM »
quick beats are less choked than k/z but it will be better if you can test side by side before you make a decision.

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« Reply #1166 on: September 30, 2014, 02:45:04 PM »
quick beats are less choked than k/z but it will be better if you can test side by side before you make a decision.

K/z ako pero I saw some quick
Beats on sale sa atc,hehe,magtesting nga ako hahaha.
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« Reply #1167 on: January 14, 2015, 04:58:43 PM »
I just came from JB Trinoma, which received a set of Zildjian Keropes this morning. We took the cymbals out of their wrappers and set them up on the demo drum set. The set is composed of 18”, 19”, 20” and 14” hats. They have no types (crash, ride, etc) and only have weights in grams written under the bell. They are a shade browner than the usual B20s, and fingerprints don’t show.

They sound very different from anything else I have heard from American Zildjians. They sound less bright but with more “body” than regular Ks, K Customs, and K Cons. The bells are tiny, and the profile is relatively shallow. They are not loud, but are very complex. Foreign reviews say that they are very inconsistent. So trying before buying is essential. If you find one that sings to you, get it immediately. 

The 19” was too stiff for my taste, and did not open up too much. The 18” was nice and mellow, with more dark complexity than the K Con next to it. The hihat was special. It’s like what you hear in oldskool lo-fi samples used in HipHop. If I had a rap or traditional jazz gig, this would be perfect. But the star of this set was the 20”. It was 1836gms, which would make it about medium thin. It rides like a vintage Turkish K, crashes like the surf hitting the shore, opens up beautifully with mallets, and the bell has a gentle but rich ping. If I was forced to use only one cymbal, this would be it.

They are so new that JB have no prices yet. AFAIK, Keropes are slightly cheaper than K Cons in the US. But the guys in JB think they will be more expensive. I’ll have to save A LOT to afford one of these by Christmas.
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« Reply #1168 on: January 15, 2015, 11:27:13 AM »
I just came from JB Trinoma, which received a set of Zildjian Keropes this morning. We took the cymbals out of their wrappers and set them up on the demo drum set. The set is composed of 18”, 19”, 20” and 14” hats. They have no types (crash, ride, etc) and only have weights in grams written under the bell. They are a shade browner than the usual B20s, and fingerprints don’t show.

They sound very different from anything else I have heard from American Zildjians. They sound less bright but with more “body” than regular Ks, K Customs, and K Cons. The bells are tiny, and the profile is relatively shallow. They are not loud, but are very complex. Foreign reviews say that they are very inconsistent. So trying before buying is essential. If you find one that sings to you, get it immediately. 

The 19” was too stiff for my taste, and did not open up too much. The 18” was nice and mellow, with more dark complexity than the K Con next to it. The hihat was special. It’s like what you hear in oldskool lo-fi samples used in HipHop. If I had a rap or traditional jazz gig, this would be perfect. But the star of this set was the 20”. It was 1836gms, which would make it about medium thin. It rides like a vintage Turkish K, crashes like the surf hitting the shore, opens up beautifully with mallets, and the bell has a gentle but rich ping. If I was forced to use only one cymbal, this would be it.

They are so new that JB have no prices yet. AFAIK, Keropes are slightly cheaper than K Cons in the US. But the guys in JB think they will be more expensive. I’ll have to save A LOT to afford one of these by Christmas.

nice! nagpakuha kami sa jb atc,di sila nagbibigay dun i wonder why.
anyway,stop nako sa gas,pero if they are worth buying,i might get a hihat and a ride,hehe. and i think ill get sa tom lee na lang,mas madami choices
pero if jb offers a good prices(once in a blue moon real sale) ill get here na lang.haha.
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« Reply #1169 on: January 19, 2015, 11:09:51 AM »
I read somewhere that the new Kerope line can sound like the old K Zildjians. I wonder how true it is. And also still not sure if it actually involves actual hand hammering

I think it's something like that,pero the price is also sky high,hehe.
Can't wait for my crash of doom! Hahaha
Heard of the Kerope line too. Sound great for me. May price range na ba paps?

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« Reply #1170 on: January 19, 2015, 03:42:19 PM »
Played with it two days ago! I want to sell my kidney!
Hahaha 14 and 15 hats are very different from each other.
Ibang klase.no prices yet. :drool:
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« Reply #1171 on: January 19, 2015, 07:07:47 PM »
Played with it two days ago! I want to sell my kidney!
Di ba?
Ako din, but I doubt anyone would want to buy my 56 year old kidneys :-)

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« Reply #1172 on: January 20, 2015, 12:22:36 AM »
Di ba?
Ako din, but I doubt anyone would want to buy my 56 year old kidneys :-)
Ahaha! Mas fresh kidney ko sir! 28 year old,hehehe
But the 18 is killer! 19 is nice but not for my taste,20 is a beast!
Hats 14 is for my taste,more versatile,15 doesn't respond to my foot that well but
It's nice for some fat grooves ala Steve Jordan. Chunky hihat. :-o
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« Reply #1173 on: January 20, 2015, 08:30:58 AM »
Saw them over the weekend...surprisingly walang mga fingerprint nung hinawakan ng staff, he said that's one of the characteristics of the Kerope, the crash sounded almost similar to a mehmet sultan, how do i describe it? mas "turkish"?

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« Reply #1174 on: January 20, 2015, 12:27:30 PM »



sana magreissue din si zildjian ng mga popular oldmodels nila built to the original specs (i.e. 90's New Beat hats, Avedis Medium 18) umaasa lang haahahah
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha