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Offline KitC

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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #100 on: May 03, 2007, 10:14:44 AM »
Seej,

Haven't been to Pipeline yet but I can most likely assume computer based recording yan. I don't know what you mean about anong kasama dun, but you should be covered.
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #101 on: May 03, 2007, 10:20:46 AM »
Last Clinic of Markflo at pipeline... i didnt see any recording equipment there anymore. A few days ago ive chatted with a friend and i forgot na kung sino sa kanila and said to me na "magsasara na yata pipeline ah... alam ko ala na gamit dun" sabi ko naman sa kanya kaya pala wala ako nakitang gamit na dun.


anyways... hope sana someone can clarrify that
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #102 on: May 22, 2007, 05:09:58 AM »
mga sir, ano po ba yung de-essing , paano ginagawa ito, bakit ginagawa ito at ano ang naitutulong nito sa mixing. salamat po and Gbu.  8-)
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #103 on: May 22, 2007, 03:32:05 PM »
You only use a de-esser if the talent or artist has a problem with producing so many "esses" that becomes annoying.  It is the over-emphasis of the "esses."  The de-esser kinda tames the "sss" in the voice.

There are rack mounted de-essers as well as sometimes incorporated in an outboard gear with other functions like eq, compressor/limiter, etc.  It is also available as plug in in some DAW softwares.

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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #104 on: May 22, 2007, 04:21:13 PM »
ah ganun po ba..  thanks sir mike.   :-)
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #105 on: May 23, 2007, 12:38:04 AM »
sir kitc, question.

bt po parang sobrang linis tunog ng distortion ng gtara when i am recording direct sa computer? hndi live ung tunog or hndi sya maingay khet naka full na gain nya? (im using boss multi efx). pero pag sa ibang effects like zoom eh maaus naman ung tunog pag gnamitan ng distortion/metal/drive??

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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #106 on: May 23, 2007, 02:07:45 AM »
Oooohhh... tough one. I think the GC guys are in a better position to answer this. It's usually down to the amp simulation algorithms if they are capable of recreating the 'dirt' when miking an amp. Obviously earlier algorithms didn't do this very well but the newer ones are getting frighteningly close, even taking mic emulations into account.

The thing about miked amps is the sound of the amplifier/speaker combination, the interaction of the speaker cone with air, mic positioning, and the quality and type of the mic itself. You can only do so much with numbers at this point in time.
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #107 on: May 23, 2007, 02:12:41 AM »
tnx.. gagamet na lang cguro me ng zoom. hehe. anyway, pano gawin mas live ung tunog ng MIDI drums? (or para d mag tunog videoke.. hehe...) (using SONAR 6.)

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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #108 on: May 23, 2007, 02:55:12 AM »
Use Session Drummer2 (comes with Sonar 6).
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #109 on: May 24, 2007, 05:15:37 AM »
mga sir, ano po ba ang difference ng active DI box sa passive DI, which one have better clarity sound na napoproduce. pareho ba silang pwedeng dumaan sa mixer, paki lagay din po ang routing starting from guitar up to the pc w/o external interface. Di me sure if ganito ba ( gtr > zoom 1010 > DI  ( act./pass. ) > mixer > soundcard> pc ).
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #110 on: July 07, 2007, 02:56:18 PM »
If i will start from a scratch... how will it cost me to set-up a basic home recording studio?
50-75k? 75-100k?

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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #111 on: July 12, 2007, 11:31:49 AM »
a budget of 50-75k pwede na. sa home recording.

PC na around 32k
2x2 audio, 1x1 midi, 1x1 spdif interface
isang 25 na keyboard controller
1 pair 4" monitor
Isang behringer na tube preamp(mic200)
isang mic cables and connectors.

bilhin mo ng hiwalay yung mga softwares.

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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #112 on: July 22, 2007, 02:15:59 PM »
actually, ive learned a lot about recording and that is with M-audio! try it. its basically like having a mini recording studio!
available at jb music sm-supercenter,valenzuela city!
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #113 on: July 22, 2007, 03:19:54 PM »
actually, ive learned a lot about recording and that is with M-audio! try it. its basically like having a mini recording studio!
available at jb music sm-supercenter,valenzuela city!


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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #114 on: July 31, 2007, 10:44:50 PM »
i would like to learn the basics for every recording program available. Sound input, sound output, plug ins, brush tools, sound mixing.. all the basics. :roll:
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #115 on: July 31, 2007, 10:50:18 PM »
i would like to learn the basics for every recording program available. Sound input, sound output, plug ins, brush tools, sound mixing.. all the basics. :roll:

you should have attended the last PC Based Audio Engineering Workshop

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,48389.0.html

and

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,51691.0.html
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #116 on: July 31, 2007, 11:29:46 PM »
i would like to learn the basics for every recording program available. Sound input, sound output, plug ins, brush tools, sound mixing.. all the basics. :roll:

Start with one program and try to learn it inside out. You will find that the others are similar making it easy to go from one program to another.

Before everything, however, decide on how you want to go about recording. There are several disciplines that you could take up like studio recording, live recording, audio post production, sound design, and even foley recording. While there are similarities, each requires a specific skill set, yet all require one singular trait... a good set of ears. Not all require that you be a musician or that you should have musical skills (though it is a big help sometimes), but all require that you should have a discerning PAIR of ears.

Second, be prepared to bury your nose in some documentation. Read, read, read... If your interest is in mixing, pick up a copy of Mix magazine or go to some online schools like Bruce A. Miller - the links are in the stickies in this board. Once you've read that mixing article, go apply it so that you train your ears. Yes, we all know what we want to hear, but it's so much easier if you can identify what you need to do to achieve it. Like if you want to do that megaphone sound or old record sound on a track, will you know what plugin to insert or what frequencies to tweak? The more you know, the better.

Last, be open to experimentation. Most of the music technology today got their start from telecommunications. Some techniques were even the result of a lucky accident while working on a track.

I know the above sounds like going to school or something, but you shouldn't stop learning something new if you're really serious. Even I am learning something new everyday...
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #117 on: August 01, 2007, 01:19:07 AM »
i would like to learn the basics for every recording program available. Sound input, sound output, plug ins, brush tools, sound mixing.. all the basics. :roll:

Start with one program and try to learn it inside out. You will find that the others are similar making it easy to go from one program to another.

Before everything, however, decide on how you want to go about recording. There are several disciplines that you could take up like studio recording, live recording, audio post production, sound design, and even foley recording. While there are similarities, each requires a specific skill set, yet all require one singular trait... a good set of ears. Not all require that you be a musician or that you should have musical skills (though it is a big help sometimes), but all require that you should have a discerning PAIR of ears.

Second, be prepared to bury your nose in some documentation. Read, read, read... If your interest is in mixing, pick up a copy of Mix magazine or go to some online schools like Bruce A. Miller - the links are in the stickies in this board. Once you've read that mixing article, go apply it so that you train your ears. Yes, we all know what we want to hear, but it's so much easier if you can identify what you need to do to achieve it. Like if you want to do that megaphone sound or old record sound on a track, will you know what plugin to insert or what frequencies to tweak? The more you know, the better.

Last, be open to experimentation. Most of the music technology today got their start from telecommunications. Some techniques were even the result of a lucky accident while working on a track.

I know the above sounds like going to school or something, but you shouldn't stop learning something new if you're really serious. Even I am learning something new everyday...


thanks KitC, ive great interest in studio recording as well as mixing. I will be visiting the site you gave me, thanks a lot!

im just gonna hover every once in a while over this section and see if youd come up with recording lessons part three.  :-D


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i saw that bro, unfortunately, work did not permit me to attend those recording workshops.  :-)
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #118 on: August 01, 2007, 01:23:07 AM »

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i saw that bro, unfortunately, work did not permit me to attend those recording workshops.  :-)

 our studio doors are always open for anyone who really wants to learn :D diba bamf and kitc?
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #119 on: August 01, 2007, 05:36:12 AM »

at edgeofillusion-jepoy

i saw that bro, unfortunately, work did not permit me to attend those recording workshops.  :-)

 our studio doors are always open for anyone who really wants to learn :D diba bamf and kitc?

wow!! so manggugulo ako noh?! hehe thanks for the offer. i hope to drop by some time and hang out with you guy, sigurado ang daaaammmi kong matututunan.  :lol:
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #120 on: August 01, 2007, 10:40:41 AM »
wow!! so manggugulo ako noh?! hehe thanks for the offer. i hope to drop by some time and hang out with you guy, sigurado ang daaaammmi kong matututunan.  :lol:

defo, yes! you should see our apprentice now.... not only is our padawan, Sammy, turning out to be one heck of a knob twiddler  :-D  , but he sure can pound the drums into submission, too!  (and that's with using toothpicks!)
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #121 on: August 01, 2007, 11:47:31 AM »
yeah! go sammy!
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #122 on: August 02, 2007, 10:01:05 AM »
mga sir, ano ba yung foley recording,    thanks.
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #123 on: August 02, 2007, 12:55:41 PM »
mga sir, ano ba yung foley recording,    thanks.

Usually sound effects for movies and video. Think the sound of walking through grass, sand or even a rocky canyon. Ever watched those "Making of Star Wars" docu's? Like who would have thunk that those laser blasts were part of a radio tower guy wire? Or that Chewbacca's growl was part bear and lion roar?
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #124 on: August 02, 2007, 01:28:40 PM »
ok sir kit thank you  :-)
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