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« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2012, 10:41:31 AM »

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« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2012, 11:01:25 AM »
bro start ng gunshow today. Nov. 17-21 go to megamall na now na! sale na guns kaw na mamili. kung ako tatanungin mo kung pang-bahay lang i'll get a shotgun point and shoot lang if you want a shorter gun go with 45,40,.44 mag,357 mag, nasa placement pa din ng bala ang importante plus na lang ang caliber..don't forget to bring NBI clearance and police clearance sir required na yon ngayon e  :-D enjoy shopping!

Hey nice thread!  So you can buy a gun with just those?  I thought you have to have a proof of threat on life or some document like that.  Or sa licensing na ba hahanapin yun?  I'm fascinated with owning one for hobby (shooting range), sayang yung glock nung late father-in-law ko, pinamigay lang sa pulis na kakilala.

Could you walk me through on:

1.  Purchase and ownership
2.  License
3.  Permit to carry
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« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2012, 09:23:18 PM »
^^ Firearms Licensing Requirements

Requirements to Possess New/Transfer Firearm (Individual)

An individual must be a Filipino citizen, at least 21 years of age, of good moral character and qualified to posses/own a firearm. Application form must be properly accomplished, signed by the applicant and duly notarized. The following forms are to be strictly complied with before submission:

Forms to be accomplished

Duly accomplishes Firearm License Application (3 copies duly notarized w/ CTC No.)
PNP Form No. 2 (Application for Regular License)
Information Sheet
Affidavit of No-Pending Case
Drug Test
Gun Safety Seminar with OR
Neuro-Psychiatric Test with OR
DI/PNP Clearance
Police Clearance (Place of Residence)
Mayor's Clearance (Place of Residence)
Court Clearance (Place of Residence)
Ballistics/Stencil Report
PNP Form No.12 (Permit to Purchase Firearm and Ammunition)
Firearm License Fee (EO256) and Surety Bond
Firearm License Card Fee P150.00
Deed of Sale or Affidavit of Transfer (For Transfer Firearm)
Three (3) 2x2 and two (2) 1x1 ID pictures with signature
Proof of Citizenship for Foreign Sounding names (Birth Certificate, etc.)
Other documents required

FOR PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL

Certificate of Employment
Income Tax Return duly notarized by BIR representative

FOR PROFESSIONAL

Photocopy of PTR for the current year
Income Tax Return duly notarized by BIR representatives

FOR BUSINESSMAN

Business Name
Balance Sheet and Profit and Loss Statement

FOR PROPRIETOR / OVERSEER / ADMINISTRATOR

Treasurer's Certificate showing value of agricultural land
Income Tax Return duly notarized by BIR representative

FOR SENATOR / CONGRESSMAN

Appointment Order

FOR OFFICIAL / EMPLOYEES OF THE SENATE / CONGRESS / APPOINTIVE OFFICIALS

Copy of appointment from the Civil Service

FOR PROVINCIAL OFFICIALS / EMPLOYEES

Copy of appointment from the Civil Service or Oath of Office

FOR SENIOR CITIZEN

Letter request addressed to C,PNP (Attn: C,FED)
Proof or document showing that applicant is under actual threat or his life is in imminent danger
Xeroxed copy of renewed Firearm License
Xeroxed copy of expired permit (for Renewal)
Medical Certificate - attesting to the applicant is fit to possess, handle and carry firearm
Senior Citizen's ID Card
PTCFOR ID Card Fee - P150.00

FOR AFP / PNP / BJMP PERSONNEL

Latest Enlistment/Re-enlistment/Appointment/Absorption Order for those in Active Service or Retirement Order for Retirees
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Duly accomplished Firearm License Renewal Application Form
Original or authenticated photocopy of old license
Original or authenticated photocopy of Special Bank Receipt (SBR)
Gun Safety Seminar with authenticated copy of CR
Firearms Bond
Documents validating a change in the data reflected in the firearms license (if any)
Requirements for New/Transfer Firearms License (Juridical)

An applicant who is an employee of said juridical entity must be Filipino Citizen, at least 21 years of age, of good moral character and qualified to posses/own a firearm. Application form must be properly accomplished, signed by the applicant and duly notarized. The following forms are to be strictly complied with before submission:
PNP Form No. 2 (Application for Regular License)
Information Sheet
Duly accomplishes Firearm License Application (3 copies duly notarized w/ CTC No)
Affidavit of No-Pending Case
PNP Form No.12 (Permit to Purchase Firearm and Ammunition)
Firearm License Fee (EO256) and Surety Bond
Deed of Sale or Affidavit of Transfer (For Transfer Firearm)
Long Envelop for application
For Private Agency/Company Security Force, only a and c above will be accomplished prior to submission of the application to SOSIA for further compliance of SOSIA requirements and for its subsequent endorsement and processing.

List of attachments included

FOR INDIVIDUAL / PRIVATE

Proof of citizenship for foreign sounding name (Birth Certificate, proof of naturalization issued by the local registrar, Passport, Voters ID)
Proof of qualification (nature of work/business or Certificate of Employment)
Three (3) pcs 2x2 and two (2) pcs 1x1 ID pictures with signature
Police Clearance (Place of residence)
Court Clearance (Place of residence)
Mayor's Clearance (Place of residence)
Income Tax Return duly notarized by BIR representative
FOR PRIVATE FIRM / ESTABLISHMENT / CORPORATION (Long Regular License -LRL)

Comply requirements 1a, 1c, 1e and 1h above (Accomplished in the name of the said entity)
Balance Sheet and Profit and Loss Statement showing the capital investment and gross sale for a quarter period (Duly certified by a CPA or the City/Municipal Treasurer)
Certificate of Registration with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)
FOR PRIVATE FIRM WITH LICENSED FIREARM FOR USE OF ITS EMPLOYEE (SRL)

Comply requirements 1a to 1h above
Three (3) pcs 2x2 and two (2) pcs 1x1 ID pictures with signature
Certification from the owner or manger that applicant (excluding security guard) is the user of the firearm applied for (Such firearm already covered by LRL)
FOR GOVERNMENT AGENCY / OWNED OR CONTROLLED CORPORATION FOR (LCR)

Application must be in the name of the Government Agency or Controlled Corporation
Accomplished PNP Form No. 3 (Signed by the Department Secretary or Bureau Director or Head of Office with equivalent rank)
Approved requisition and Issued Voucher (RIV) & Council/Board Resolution
Deed of Sale or Affidavit or Transfer (For firearm acquired from a licensed holder)
FOR GOVERNMENT AGENCY WITH LICENSED FIREARM FOR USE OF ITS EMPLOYEE (SCR)

Comply requirements 1a to 1h above
Three (3) pcs 2x2 and two (2) pcs 1x1 ID pictures with signature
Clearance from PNP Directorate of Intelligence (DI) - formerly C-2
Appointment Order from the Civil Service Commission (CSC) or Oath of Office in case of Elective Official
FOR PRIVATE SECURITY AGENCY

PNP Form No. 12
Application for Firearm License (3 copies duly notarized)
License to Operate (LTO)
List of Guards and Number of Firearms
Board or Council Resolution for the purchase of firearms (Resolved by LGU Officials)
Endorsement from SOSIA, CSG
FOR GUN CLUB MEMBER

Certification from FED
Requirements for Renewal of Firearms License (Juridical)

Duly accomplished Juridical Firearm License Renewal Application Form
Original or authenticated photocopy of old license
Original or authenticated photocopy of Special Bank Receipt (SBR)
Official Receipt of Firearms Bond (except for SP licensees)
Document validating a change in the data reflected in the firearms license (if any)
Valid license to operate (for Security Agency and Company Guard Force)
Drug test result of owner or manager (authenticated by the Chief, PNP Crime Laboratory Service , or Chief, Regional Crime Laboratory Office or their authorized representatives)
Instructions to Applicants

Fill-up all information required and attach your 2x2 colored picture in the space indicated.
Attach the required original or authenticated photocopy (duly authenticated) by the agency/ office issuing the document.
If there are any changes in in any information in your firearm license (I.e. address, qualification, etc.) indicate the changes in the appropriate spaces. Attach a copy of the document validating the change.
Application with lacking requirements will note be accepted for processing.
WARNING: Before signing any document, read carefully the undertaking signifying the correctness and truthfulness of your entries. Your application will be subjected to verification. Any misdeclaration may lead to cancellation of the firearm license and confiscation of firearm without prejudice to the filing of the appropriate criminal case. File your application with the Firearms and Explosives Division in Camp Crame or with the Police Regional Operations and Plans Division covering your place of residence. Your license card will be release upon presentation of your claim stub.

Requirements for License to Deal Firearms and Ammunition / Repairs of Firearms

The applicant will secure/prepare the following requirements in three (3) copies:

Location plan of the proposed gun store/repair shop showing distance from the nearest Police Headquarters (in meters)
Sketch of the firearms and ammunition vault showing inside dimension and construction materials used and the kind of door and locking device.
Copy of Business Registration of the firm with the Securities and Exchange Commission (Articles of Incorporation and By-laws) and/or Department Trade and Industry.
Clearances of the Manager/Proprietor/Person who will manage the FA/Ammo Dealership or perform the repair of firearms form the City/Municipal Mayor, Metropolitan/Municipal Trial Court, City/ Municipal Chief of Police in the place of his/her residence, NBI Clearance and DI Clearance.
The applicant will accomplish Application for License to Deal in Firearms and Ammunition (Form 1)
The applicant will write a supplementary letter addressed to the Chief, PNP (thru: Channels) requesting issuance of License to Deal in Firearms and Ammunition/Gun Repair and also stating among other things, the following;

Certification or Affidavit of the Corporate Treasurer and Bank Statement that Paid-up capital stock of P500,000 as proof of capitalization.
Location of gun store/gun repair whether it is properly constructed of strong materials and safely located.
Whether it is provided with burglar and fire proof vault enough to safely accommodate the quantity of firearms and ammunition applied for.
Name of Proprietor/Manager who will actually manage gun store/repair firearms and his/her qualification and experience in the business.
Picture of gun store/repair shop and depository vault.
Certification from PPD that the gun store/repair shop is secured and safe from insurgents
Tax Identification Number Re-Revenue Regulations No. 11-99
Such other information that will justify the application.
Submit all papers to the Police Provincial City Director for inspection, comment and recommendation. If the gun store/gun shop is located in Metro Manila, the applicant shall be submitted to the Chief, FED, Camp Crame, Quezon City.

From the Police Provincial City Director, the application will be forwarded to the CHief, FED which after processing will be forwarded to the Chief, PNP (thru: channels) pursuant to PNP Memo Cir No 99-009 dated 16 March 1999.

If the application is approved by the Chief, PNP License To Deal Firearms and Ammunition/ License to Repair Firearms is issued by C, FED after submission of Dealer's Bond by the applicant.

NOTE: *Applicant for Indentor's License To Deal Firearms and Ammunition and other related items to PNP, AFP and other Government Entities for commercial purposes shall disregard the requirements in paragraph in 1a and 1b and paragraph 1a, 2b, 2c, 2e and 2f. *Applicant for Firearm Repair Stop disregard item 2a.

Renewal of License to Deal Firearms / Ammunition and Other Licenses

Letter request re-renewal of License.
Xerox copy of License to Deal/Operate.
Mayor's Permit to Operate Business from the City/Municipality.
DI/RIID/NBI clearance of the person named in the license.
Special Bank Receipt (SBR) payment of Firearm/Ammunition Dealership/Repair License Fee.
Surety Bond (Dealer's Bond) required pursuant to SEC 884 of the Revised Administrative Code.
Summary of transactions made foe the last twenty-four (24) months including copies of monthly report/list individuals to whom the firearms were sold and had been licensed.
Picture of the gun store showing front view, inside view and its depository vault.
Letter justification for the late filing of renewal of license. (request to renew should be filed sixty (60) days prior to expiration)
Latest DTI for Single Proprietorship and SEC Registration for Partnership/Corporation/Incorporation.
Tax Identification Number re-Revenue Regulations No. 11-99.
For provincial applicant, secure the endorsement of the Police Provincial/City Director with the following attachments:

Certification from the Provincial/City Director that the place is safe and secured from insurgents.
Ocular Inspection Report conducted by said PPD.
Letter request from Gun Club President addressed to Chief, PNP (Attn: C, FED).
Minimum of fifteen (15) licensed FA holders as members with their renewed firearm licenses.
Membership limited to residents of the province/city.
Directorate for Intelligence (DI) or ARDI clearance of officer/members.
SEC Registration .
Copy of Articles of Incorporation and By-laws.
Gun Club Office/Target Range, detail and location plans included.
Burglar and fireproof of armory or vault in target range for safekeeping of FA/Ammo and its location plan.
Recommendation from Police Provincial Director/City Director.
Mayor's Clearance Permit
Security Survey Report from Provincial Director stating that the range is secured from outside threats or insurgency attacks.
Inspection Report from Operations Branch.
Photos of Gun Club Office and Target Range.
Fees

P 3,000.00 for Gun Club Recognition (One Time)
P 3,000.00 for Firing Range Accreditation (Private)
P 6,000.00 for Firing Range Accreditation (Commercial)
Requirement for Target Range Acquisition

Not less than 1,000 meters from any main road.
Safe distance from the nearest residential houses.
Nuisance to the neighborhood.
Construction of Pit - 8 ft in depth, 5 ft in with, length must be the same with that of the target wall (High Powered Only)
Backstop

Hill
Mountain
Artificial made o concrete (sand, gravel, cement and wood) height (not less that 5 ft) thickness (not less that 2 ft)

Target Wall


Made o concrete (sand, gravel, cement and wood)
Height (not less that 5 ft)
Thickness (not less that 2 ft)
Safety measures and rules posted in conspicuous place
Qualified range officers
In front of hill or mountain, if possible


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Re: pistol
« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2012, 09:38:28 PM »
Thank you Sir...

those are really sweet. :-P

i have my sights on a STI Edge .40cal. im short on budget though... might just buy a Spartan instead..

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« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2012, 11:57:14 AM »
those are really sweet. :-P

i have my sights on a STI Edge .40cal. im short on budget though... might just buy a Spartan instead..

Sir have you tried to assembled your unit piece by piece? You can choose the best part available in the market. Let's have some breakdown for reference.

Slide - 16,000 STI Long Dust w/factory cut.
Rear Sight - The best is Boomar or SVI adjustable but STI will be fine - 4,000
Front Sight - Brazo Lighting Rod Fiber Optic - 2,000
Firing Pin - Limcat Extended - 1,200
Firing Pin Stop - EQW - 900
Extractor - Aftec - 5,500
Barrel - Schuemann Ultimatch AET  - 25,000

Frame - STI Long Dust - 43,000
Hammer- Doug Koenig - 6,000
Trigger Group - SVI - 8,000
Trigger - SVI -5,000
Magwell - Cape  10,000 (or you can have this fabricate by a good GS) Metrillo-4,000

Budget 126,000 Gunsmith (Tony Olinares) 25,000

Total 156,000 + Mags (5,000 each)

Kapag nabuo yan sir you are good to compete na. Pwede ng makipagsabayan sa gamit nila Jethro, Edward Rivera and other top shooter natin.

Are you a member of PG or registered member of PPF?
 
« Last Edit: February 17, 2012, 12:00:32 PM by xlance »


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« Reply #55 on: February 18, 2012, 10:59:37 AM »
nice idea. very tempting.  expensive but i'll look into it. baka mas cheaper if i can get some of the parts abroad. hehe
saan based yung assembly natin sir? this is good for ipsc/uspsa right? i would still consider myself a novice when it comes to practical shooting.

yes sir, im a PG member too. my handle there is aeodmd.

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Re: pistol
« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2012, 05:51:08 PM »
^^ did some research, maganda suggestion nyo sir hehe

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« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2012, 08:17:32 PM »
Both Bro IPSC/USPSA Legal. Dahil modular ang Grip ng 2011 pwede na rin siyang pang carry bro.

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« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2012, 06:29:15 PM »
nice idea. very tempting.  expensive but i'll look into it. baka mas cheaper if i can get some of the parts abroad. hehe
saan based yung assembly natin sir? this is good for ipsc/uspsa right? i would still consider myself a novice when it comes to practical shooting.

yes sir, im a PG member too. my handle there is aeodmd.
if I were you bro bumili ka na lang ng buo na edge, MAC 2011, or a used unit na panlaro na tuned na. Hirap kasi humanap ng gunsmith pati hiyangan din sa gunsmith para din luthier, for some they are good for some they suck..and for me bro yung 150k you can get a descent long firearm yun nga lang hindi pwede pa-PTC yon and short term lang ang PTT, pero pag may pumasok sa bahay nyo ewan ko na lang kung hindi lumipat sa throat ang yagbols nung pumasok hehehe! where you guys from pala? baka pwede tayo fun shoot minsan!  :-D

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« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2012, 12:54:10 AM »
PG guns member din ako at armscor forum member..mark45 handle name ko dun :)

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« Reply #60 on: March 04, 2012, 03:51:07 PM »
if I were you bro bumili ka na lang ng buo na edge, MAC 2011, or a used unit na panlaro na tuned na. Hirap kasi humanap ng gunsmith pati hiyangan din sa gunsmith para din luthier, for some they are good for some they suck..and for me bro yung 150k you can get a descent long firearm yun nga lang hindi pwede pa-PTC yon and short term lang ang PTT, pero pag may pumasok sa bahay nyo ewan ko na lang kung hindi lumipat sa throat ang yagbols nung pumasok hehehe! where you guys from pala? baka pwede tayo fun shoot minsan!  :-D

ok bro. hirap mag decide kapag kulang ang budget hehe

im from way down south... bicol hehe

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« Reply #61 on: March 04, 2012, 07:52:41 PM »
PG guns member din ako at armscor forum member..mark45 handle name ko dun :)

Kaw pala sir si mark45,lurker lang ako sa PG mas active ako sa ppf hehehe!

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« Reply #62 on: March 04, 2012, 07:56:42 PM »
ok bro. hirap mag decide kapag kulang ang budget hehe

im from way down south... bicol hehe

Layo nga! Hehehe!

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« Reply #63 on: March 05, 2012, 07:53:21 PM »
Layo nga! Hehehe!

Boy Tolentino is a good gunsmith bro


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« Reply #64 on: March 05, 2012, 08:27:35 PM »
^^ yes sir. he is well known here.

im really gassing for a pistol right now.

sti edge, para p16.40, mac 2011 or assemble one....???? can't decide.

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« Reply #65 on: March 06, 2012, 11:29:59 PM »
Kaw pala sir si mark45,lurker lang ako sa PG mas active ako sa ppf hehehe!

ndi ba matumal dun?try ko din mag register.. :)

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« Reply #66 on: March 07, 2012, 03:37:15 AM »
ndi ba matumal dun?try ko din mag register.. :)

una kong nadiscover PG kaso bagal ng reply sa forum hehehe! sa PPF mas madami active people and mas madaming topics..  :-D

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« Reply #67 on: March 08, 2012, 03:25:24 PM »
una kong nadiscover PG kaso bagal ng reply sa forum hehehe! sa PPF mas madami active people and mas madaming topics..  :-D


Mabagal nga reply sa PG. hehe ok pala sa ppf. Nag register na din ako.

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« Reply #68 on: March 20, 2012, 05:37:33 PM »

Mabagal nga reply sa PG. hehe ok pala sa ppf. Nag register na din ako.

bro,may kilala ka nagaaus ng PTC?ung di masyado mahal sumingil at mabilis mag proseso

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« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2012, 04:42:05 PM »
I'll ask around bro. Wala na din kasi yung contact ko dati. Balitaan kita.

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Re: pistol
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2012, 09:23:35 PM »
ako eto lang kaya ng budget ko...

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Re: pistol
« Reply #71 on: March 25, 2012, 09:45:21 PM »
OT: sino member ng PPF dito?

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« Reply #72 on: March 26, 2012, 10:13:13 AM »
OT: sino member ng PPF dito?

ako,si dullfingers,belzer..

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« Reply #73 on: March 26, 2012, 11:22:41 AM »
ito po ung saken.. bigay po ni erpats.. processing pa ang papers.. balak ko ipa-reblue na matte black.. sobrang luma na kasi.. hehe.. gagamitin ko rin sa practical shooting..

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« Reply #74 on: March 26, 2012, 04:45:25 PM »
ako,si dullfingers,belzer..

ayos me ka PPF at ka Philmusic bro ako...hehehe
45acp callsign ko dun bro...