First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!

[sixars]

salamat po, sa reply nyo, nag aalangan kasi ako, kung lazer na 2nd hand o yung X-trek II na brandnew. mallit lang din kasi buget ko 12k max na yun. napakalaking bagay nung mga nabasa kong thread dito. malaking tulong ito para sa mga baguhang tulad ko salamat po sa post nyo.

[boypalo]

check out ddrums also. AFAIK affordable din yun. saka check mo din sa classifieds maraming sulit na gamit dun

[sjon014]

Agreed. X-trek, Lazer (lowends) and other China-made generics are almost identical. Standard rock sizes. Old-style tom mounting. Double-braced but light hardware. Same with old Fernandos, LA Drums, etc. I suggest you take a look at DDrums (be wary of hardware issues though) or the newer Fernandos.

If not, you could score a good kit if you're patient enough at the Classifieds. Damn, like richie's Tama Superstar shell pack for 15k, SOLD just mere hours after he posted it.@_@

[boypalo]

what about the hardwares ng ddrums bro? di ba pang gyera? hehe

[paeng16]

ah ok.. thanks po! 
Kasya po kaya sa FX? May 2 po akong companion..

Advice lang boss..

Ipa assemble mo na yung buong KIT before mo kalasin at ilagay sa FX. Atleast from the store palang makikita mo na kung may KULANG or DAMAGE..

AT..

LIBRE TONO pa! hehehe 

[vmlinuZ]

Mga boss, Ok ba yung Tama Imperialstar Mas ok ba siya kesa sa Sonor Force 2001 (hindi akin pero un lang madalas na nagagamit ko)

Thanks

[vmlinuZ]

I went to JB yesterday, nalito lalo ako, I saw this Gretsch Catalina Ash 40k(original price 60k+ ata) with zbt na.. plus a free 8inch tom, Bundle daw talaga yung cymbals.. Meron pa isang option, Tama Superstar 4 piece 30k.. uggh nakakalito talaga, ano ba mas ok na deal dyan? O baka may maisusuggest kayo na ibang kit? 40k max budget

Thanks

[plep]

vmlinuz: mas maganda ang superstar sa gretsch... kaso kung best deal ang hanap mo, bilhin mo yung gretsch tapos ibenta mo yung zbt para pandagdag budget para sa magandang cymbals.

[paeng16]

I went to JB yesterday, nalito lalo ako, I saw this Gretsch Catalina Ash 40k(original price 60k+ ata) with zbt na.. plus a free 8inch tom, Bundle daw talaga yung cymbals.. Meron pa isang option, Tama Superstar 4 piece 30k.. uggh nakakalito talaga, ano ba mas ok na deal dyan? O baka may maisusuggest kayo na ibang kit? 40k max budget

Thanks

TOL

1) Yung Catalina ba ay 10" 12" 14" 16" tom? or 8" 10" 12" 14" tom?
2) Yung Superstar ba ay 12" 13" 16" tom? (Standard set).
3) Same wood ba yung Catalina at Superstar?? (maple, birch)?

Now let me share my experience (may mapupulot kang araw dito!) hehehe.

Set ko ay Pearl Forum (Fusion Kit = 10" 12" 14" toms). So after some time, I realize the STYLE OF PLAY na gusto ko. Somewhat JEFF PORCARO (TOTO) na LARS ULRICH(METALLICA).

Jeff Porcaro set is (10"12"13"14" toms)
Lars Ulrich (Presently using 10" 12" 16" 16" toms.)

So, bumili ako ng 16" TOM na hindi kakulay nang set ko kasi wala talaga eh (Which is a really PAIN IN THE @$$ to find, Ganun din naman pag bibili ako ng 13" na TOM).

Anyways, now ang set ko at 10" 12" 14" 16" toms. 

OR

CATALINA SET na! hehehe.. (dapat pala CATALINA SET NALANG BINILI KO FROM THE START!) 

Moral of the story is...
1) Mahirap mag hanap nang additional TOM.
2)Your should know your style of play. (heavy metal ba? Jazz? pop? Rock?) Standard set ay medyo MALAKAS ang tunog. So "MAS" maganda ang Fusion set or smaller toms sa mga pop, jazz etc.


In ending, kung yung Catalina set sa JB ay 8" 10" 12" 14". I'd go for the standard set ng TAMA. Kasi bumili ka lang ng roto-toms sa standard set ayus na eh. Pero kung 10" 12" 14" 16" yung catalina sa JB. Men by all means, ito na ang bilhin mo!

By the way, meron Ludwig na Birch wood na 40K din sa JB Music ah. Birch ito men at malayong mas maganda sa Maple. Check mo din ito men. Ayus ito.

Hope this helps.. 

[vmlinuZ]

1. Yung Catalina Ash, 8" 10" 12" 14", (which is ok para maluwag sa kwarto ko hehe) 40k with cymbals
2. Yung Superstar, 12" 16" 30k
3. Catalina Ash - Ash, Superstar - Birch+Basswood (not sure)

Yung sa Superstar, bitin sakin kung 2 toms lang e. Yung Catalina Ash naman, 6 piece na agad may cymbals pa @40k. Anong model yung sa ludwig chief?

[paeng16]

1. Yung Catalina Ash, 8" 10" 12" 14", (which is ok para maluwag sa kwarto ko hehe) 40k with cymbals
2. Yung Superstar, 12" 16" 30k
3. Catalina Ash - Ash, Superstar - Birch+Basswood (not sure)

Yung sa Superstar, bitin sakin kung 2 toms lang e. Yung Catalina Ash naman, 6 piece na agad may cymbals pa @40k. Anong model yung sa ludwig chief?

CATALINA KA NALANG MEN!!

teka i-post ko yung pics... hehehe 

[paeng16]

Ludwig set with Drum Doctor Nelson (JB Music Megamall)



Remo Heads


Floor tom with conversion kit (pwede gawing Jr set hehehe)


Price


P.S. Dapat binabayaran ako nang JB Music sa mga serbisyo ko eh! wahihihihi 

Nice set to Men, Ask mo nalang sila sa detalye..

Paeng

[vmlinuZ]

Ayos, dadaan ako ulit jb megamall mamaya, langya araw araw nako halos dun kakatingin hahaha.. Tumawag ako sa audiophile.. 39,150 TAMA Superstar Fusion.. so lumalabas +9k para lang maging 5 piece hehe.. syet lalo ako nalilito.. Malaki ba talaga difference sa tunog yung Superstar and Catalina Ash?

[paeng16]

Ayos, dadaan ako ulit jb megamall mamaya, langya araw araw nako halos dun kakatingin hahaha.. Tumawag ako sa audiophile.. 39,150 TAMA Superstar Fusion.. so lumalabas +9k para lang maging 5 piece hehe.. syet lalo ako nalilito.. Malaki ba talaga difference sa tunog yung Superstar and Catalina Ash?

Regarding sa SOUND...

(Kwento ako ulit at share ko experience ko! hehehe)

Pearl Forum is Maple wood. While yung nabili kong additional 16" Floor tom ay WTF wood.

Pero...

Nung linagyan ko nang REMO PINSTRIPE yung 16" Floor tom.

NAHABOL YUNG SOUND at hindi obyus na WTF WOOD sha! hehehe.. 


Ito nga oh! sina-SOUND CHECK na nang baby ko! hehehe 

[paeng16]

Tol, bukas kanalang dumaan sa JB Megamall.. OFF ngayon ni NELSON the Drum Doctor.

[vmlinuZ]

Planet Z lang pala yung kasama langya. 45k pag zbt

Tapos nakita ko pa yung pearl vision 38k... hirap naman pumili =/

Mabilis ba mabenta yung Planet Z dito?

[sjon014]

Pearl Forum is Maple wood. While yung nabili kong additional 16" Floor tom ay WTF wood.

Nice pics bro. But the Forums are made of Poplar by the way.

Planet Z lang pala yung kasama langya. 45k pag zbt

Tapos nakita ko pa yung pearl vision 38k... hirap naman pumili =/

Mabilis ba mabenta yung Planet Z dito?

Hm.. okay lang. Nabibili naman Planet Z dito, but for really cheap prices hahah. I suppose better ang selling power ng ZBT, but still not by much.

[thunder_god]

Regarding sa SOUND...

(Kwento ako ulit at share ko experience ko! hehehe)

Pearl Forum is Maple wood. While yung nabili kong additional 16" Floor tom ay WTF wood.

Pero...

Nung linagyan ko nang REMO PINSTRIPE yung 16" Floor tom.

NAHABOL YUNG SOUND at hindi obyus na WTF WOOD sha! hehehe.. 


Ito nga oh! sina-SOUND CHECK na nang baby ko! hehehe 

Pearl Forum Series Drums are made of  6 ply 7.5mm poplar shells. Even the discontinued and the most sold Pearl drum around the world, the Export series was made of poplar shells. The latest edition of the Pearl Forum Series, Forum FZ are still made of poplar shells. Recent upgrades with this kit are just the 'ISS' for both 12'' and 13'' toms which was acquired from the late export series, an additonal C70W cymbal stand for the additonal Pearl crash cymbal(previous forum series only has a boomstand B70W to hold a pearl crash/ride cymbal) and the drum pedal which was upgraded from P-120 to P-120P.   

[Akira JUMBO]

Pearl Forum is Maple wood..

For the record all Pearl Forum series are not made from maple wood, instead they are built with poplar.

[paeng16]

Thanks sa mga info about maple mga Bro!!!

[peeves24]

bro wag ka maturn off kasi hindi lang basta "poplar" yan. hindi lang naman yung kahoy ang bumubuo sa drum...

nung mangini clinic, magkatabi ang isang vision at reference tapos sabay ginamit. mas nakakaturn off yung reference kasi mas malayo yung price difference nya sa vision tapos halos walang difference sa tunog yung mga toms at bass. yes maganda yung snare nung reference pero makakabili ka ng 4 super duper high end snare at isang vision sa presyo ng reference tapos may pambili ka pa ng high end cymbals 

kung ang habol mo sa drums e yung tunog, entry level kits now are pretty much built the same way as high end drums. sa hardware na lang talaga nagkakatalo

[plep]

bro wag ka maturn off kasi hindi lang basta "poplar" yan. hindi lang naman yung kahoy ang bumubuo sa drum...

nung mangini clinic, magkatabi ang isang vision at reference tapos sabay ginamit. mas nakakaturn off yung reference kasi mas malayo yung price difference nya sa vision tapos halos walang difference sa tunog yung mga toms at bass. yes maganda yung snare nung reference pero makakabili ka ng 4 super duper high end snare at isang vision sa presyo ng reference tapos may pambili ka pa ng high end cymbals 

kung ang habol mo sa drums e yung tunog, entry level kits now are pretty much built the same way as high end drums. sa hardware na lang talaga nagkakatalo

tama ito. kung ako tanungin, mas magandang maginvest sa magandang cymbals, snare, hardware tsaka heads kesa sa high end kit. ang cymbals at snare kasi, rinig agad ang pagkaiba ng low end, midlevel, tsaka high end. eh sa drums naman, basta matino ang heads, tuning, tsaka bearing edge (let's go peeves!), maganda na rin ang tunog.

[paeng16]

@ pleps at Dr. Peeves

well noted and thanks sa replies.. 

[Akira JUMBO]

At dahil dyan, na Turn-Off ako sa set ko!   

If we had not told you about the wood composition would you still love your kit the same? If so forget that we even mentioned it.

Do not under estimate Poplar wood as it produces great sound as well, I barely notice the difference between Maple and Poplar on some of my drums. I totally agree with what Peeves and Plep said, to invest in cymbals, good drum heads, and for me to add invest on lessons..

[thunder_god]

Thanks sa mga info about maple mga Bro!!!

At dahil dyan, na Turn-Off ako sa set ko!     

(Ang pagkaalam ko kasi yung snare lang ang POPSMEAR wood.  )

Anyways, yung last post ko is the same.

Pearl popsmear wood    + 16" WTF wood  /Pinstripe = Same sound.

Hmmm.... that's kind a strange. All of a sudden he's selling his drum kit at the classified section. Is it because that he found out that a Pearl Forum kit was made of poplar shells?