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Offline JDMonline

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Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« on: April 10, 2011, 03:34:40 PM »
Currently upgrading to new peds.. Sawa na sa Eliminator. Give your insight about the two..
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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2011, 09:38:25 PM »
Pearl Demon Drive
-Direct Drive
-Convertible siya sa into long board at short
-May high tech na bearing :lol:
-Yung direct drive link pwedeng ma-adjust into two types, ganun din sa beater holder
-May key holder
-May kasamang hard case
-Pwedeng ikaw mismo mag-adjust ng footboard height
-Maganda aesthetics wise :-D

Tama Speed Cobra
-Dual Chain Drive
-Long board na talaga siya kahit anong gawin mo :lol:
-Ganun din sa Demon Drive, may high tech na bearing rin
-Na-aadjust yung beater, pwedeng focused sound at fatter sound
-May key holder
-May kasamang hard case
-Syempre may Cobra Coil na di naten makikita sa iba 8-)
-Color silver lang siya :-)

Alam niyo sir kung pagmamasdan at pagkukumparahin maigi, halos pareho lang talaga sila. Search pa po kayo online reviews at videos sir, halos, halos, halos, pareho talaga eh. Di pa ko nakaka-try ng speed cobra, sabi ng iba panget daw at mas maganda daw demon drive. Sabi naman ng iba sa demon drive ang pangit rin, mas maganda daw speed cobra. Nasa personal na panlasa lang po ata talaga ng gagamit. Demon Drive po ang ginagamit ko ngayon, ok naman siya. Kahit naman ang speed cobra eh :-)

Palagay ko sir, ang pinag-lalabanan lang nitong dalawa, yung itsura nila..Hehe..Kung sino mas pogi sa kanilang dalawa :lol: Parehong gwapo in different aspects, pero pareho lang rin naman ng feel :-)

Sana pwedeng subukan sa mga local music stores naten ang parehong pedal para mas mapadali ang pagpili kung alin sa dalawa ang bibilin :-D
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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2011, 11:03:28 PM »
Currently upgrading to new peds.. Sawa na sa Eliminator. Give your insight about the two..
 :-D
Sir better ask DOCJIGS about this two great pedal,Pareho siya meron niyan he.he.. 8-)

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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2011, 11:07:59 PM »
Sir better ask DOCJIGS about this two great pedal,Pareho siya meron niyan he.he.. 8-)

Oo nga sir tama! Nakalimutan ko meron nga pala pareho niyan si master Docjigs :-D
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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2011, 12:13:49 AM »
Pearl Demon Drive
Palagay ko sir, ang pinag-lalabanan lang nitong dalawa, yung itsura nila..Hehe..Kung sino mas pogi sa kanilang dalawa :lol: Parehong gwapo in different aspects, pero pareho lang rin naman ng feel :-)


parang mas pogi speed cobra.. haha!
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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2011, 01:01:23 AM »
Sana pwedeng subukan sa mga local music stores naten ang parehong pedal para mas mapadali ang pagpili kung alin sa dalawa ang bibilin :-D
Yun na po iyon  :-D

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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2011, 03:12:52 AM »
Curious lang, ano ba mas "lighter" na pedal sa pakiramdam???
Never tried both before even once, kaya curious lang...
Oh, by the way, ano adjustable ba pareho ang beaters nila...
Speaking of beater angle & beater height...
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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2011, 04:07:59 AM »
Curious lang, ano ba mas "lighter" na pedal sa pakiramdam???
Never tried both before even once, kaya curious lang...
Oh, by the way, ano adjustable ba pareho ang beaters nila...
Speaking of beater angle & beater height...

Yung sa tanong kung alin mas lighter, di ko masagot kasi Demon Drive pa lang nasusubukan ko.

Yes, adjustable pareho ang beaters. Yung Demon yun na talaga ang angle ng beater PERO meron siyang "beater stroke adjustment" na pwedeng pagpilian kung lighter o heavier feel. Yung Speed Cobra adjustable na yung beater angle, meron pa siyang "vary-stroke beater adjustment" na parang "beater stroke adjustment" ng Demon, yun nga lang pati footboard apektado pag inadjust mo, di tulad sa Demon na iba pa ang pag-adjust sa beater stroke at iba pa yung sa footboard. Kaya ok din kasi pwede kang mag-experiment sa gusto mong "feel".

Beater height naman pareho silang adjustable

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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2011, 07:28:21 AM »
Curious lang, ano ba mas "lighter" na pedal sa pakiramdam???
Never tried both before even once, kaya curious lang...
Oh, by the way, ano adjustable ba pareho ang beaters nila...
Speaking of beater angle & beater height...

beater angle lang ang hindi mo makikita sa iba, pero ang beater height, lahat ata ng pedals pwede i-adjust.. :D

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Curious lang, ano ba mas "lighter" na pedal sa pakiramdam???

personally hindi pa ako nakaka try ng demon drive at speed cobra, pero sa iron cobra ko pa lang na may cobra coil, nagagaanan na ako, tsaka parang naka rugby na sa paa mo yung foot board sa sobrang bilis ng rebound.. kapag naka sagad yung cobra coil. How much more pa kaya ang speed cobra  8-)
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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2011, 09:11:47 AM »
Can you compare Direct Drive and Chain Drive?  It's like comparing apples and oranges diba? Two very different things? I think...

The "Long Board" of the Demon Drive is just as long as the Iron Cobra? The Speed Cobra has a longer foot board.  I'm not heavy on the foot, but i think the speed cobra gives more power on the kick.

I honestly think the demon drive looks ugly. hehe. Personal preference.  Di kasi bagay yung orange sa kit ko.  :-D

Lets have an EB to try em out. \m/

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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2011, 12:22:15 PM »
Lets have an EB to try em out. \m/

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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2011, 04:40:26 PM »
Can you compare Direct Drive and Chain Drive?  It's like comparing apples and oranges diba? Two very different things? I think...

The "Long Board" of the Demon Drive is just as long as the Iron Cobra? The Speed Cobra has a longer foot board.  I'm not heavy on the foot, but i think the speed cobra gives more power on the kick.

I honestly think the demon drive looks ugly. hehe. Personal preference.  Di kasi bagay yung orange sa kit ko.  :-D

Lets have an EB to try em out. \m/




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I told you guys, "personal preference" talaga labanan sa mga gears :-) well said ma'm gax! :-D

Humble opinion, Demon Drive is NOT ugly. It just doesn't suits your taste when being incorporated to your kit due to the contrasting color, ma'm. :-)
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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2011, 06:52:22 PM »
Ayan na  :-D INSIGHTS pa marami matutulungan to para sa mga gusto mg upgrade ng Pedals katulad ko..

Tried Pearl Demon Drive kanina..
Tama nga si ma'm gax almost prhas ung footboard ng Demon Drive sa Iron Cobra
Kaso isang na gustuhan ko sa Demon Drive ung ADJUSTABILITY nya.. Un ata ang main concept ng PEARL.
As per musiciannurse, pwede mo nga i-adjust ung beater stroke na hindi nagagalaw ung pedal board at un ang isa kong nagustuhan..

Sir JAY..asan ka na..Paapak nman sa Speed Cobra mo..  :-D
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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2011, 09:07:05 PM »
Si DOCJIGS dapat puntahan mo sir,Talagang macocompare mo pareho yan PEARL DEMON DRIVE and TAMA SPEED COBRA... :-D Taga Laguna lang Docjigs malapit lang sa inyo.Sabihin mo ako nagpapunta sayo he.he.. :wink:

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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2011, 09:57:14 PM »
Si DOCJIGS dapat puntahan mo sir,Talagang macocompare mo pareho yan PEARL DEMON DRIVE and TAMA SPEED COBRA... :-D Taga Laguna lang Docjigs malapit lang sa inyo.Sabihin mo ako nagpapunta sayo he.he.. :wink:
Dalhin ko na Lang po sa eb yung mga pedals para macompare,ang masasabi ko lng po yung demondrive smooth sya,maraming adjustments at yung speed cobra po naman mas may power at talagang longboard parang kasing haba sya ng trick pro v Bigfoot :-)

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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2011, 10:57:12 PM »
Dalhin ko na Lang po sa eb yung mga pedals para macompare,ang masasabi ko lng po yung demondrive smooth sya,maraming adjustments at yung speed cobra po naman mas may power at talagang longboard parang kasing haba sya ng trick pro v Bigfoot :-)

anu po ba pwedeng maging negative effect ng longer footboard?? mejo nahihirapan kasi akong i-evaluate since ang alam ko lang kaya pinapahaba ang footboard is para makapag heel toe ang mga drummers na may malalaking paa at tsaka malakas na sipa.
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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2011, 11:12:42 PM »
anu po ba pwedeng maging negative effect ng longer footboard?? mejo nahihirapan kasi akong i-evaluate since ang alam ko lang kaya pinapahaba ang footboard is para makapag heel toe ang mga drummers na may malalaking paa at tsaka malakas na sipa.

IMO longer footboard allows you to get more control sa volume ng kick. Specially on accents. Yun nga lang karamihan satin sanay na mag control sa short footboard :)

Para sakin sa DD ako. hehe kasi more adjustments ang magagawa. mas makukuha mo sweet spot mo
kung volume lang naman, habaan mo na lang yung beater, then change the angle ng beaters para pag pumalo may buwelo na sya. I think that's the good thing about DD's. Just tweak the pedal then you'll find a way to make it powerful.

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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2011, 11:31:32 PM »
Tama Speed Cobra is better. Because demon drive may be fast but IT IS NOT powerful. Tama speed cobra is FAST AND POWERFUL

Some drummers who use the demon drive need to use 2-3 felt pads just to get a strong "doog" from the kick drum

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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2011, 11:46:16 AM »
Tama Speed Cobra is better. Because demon drive may be fast but IT IS NOT powerful. Tama speed cobra is FAST AND POWERFUL

Some drummers who use the demon drive need to use 2-3 felt pads just to get a strong "doog" from the kick drum

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you have to sacrifice power kung gusto mo ng speed sa DD pero once you find your "sweet spot" swabeng swabe na ang problema lang... HIRAP HANAPIN NUNG SWEET SPOT EH !! :))

i went back to elims from DD, nahanap ko na yung tamang hagod pero kulang parin talaga
yung hagod na yun nakita ko sa elims chain drive...
kung yung hagod ng chain tapos yung speed ng direct makukuha sa speed cobra edi jackpot na !! ^_^

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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2011, 05:15:00 PM »
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you have to sacrifice power kung gusto mo ng speed sa DD pero once you find your "sweet spot" swabeng swabe na ang problema lang... HIRAP HANAPIN NUNG SWEET SPOT EH !! 


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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2011, 08:50:32 PM »

kung yung hagod ng chain tapos yung speed ng direct makukuha sa speed cobra edi jackpot na !! ^_^

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« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2011, 09:08:55 AM »
kung yung hagod ng chain tapos yung speed ng direct makukuha sa speed cobra edi jackpot na !! ^_^

+1000000000 he.he Ganito feel ng SPEED COBRA 8-)

And price wise... it's cheaper pa. \m/ Value for money on the speed cobra. Jackpot!
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Re: Pearl Demon Drive or Tama Speed Cobra?. Which is best..
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2011, 09:29:58 AM »
What's the deal between Direct and chain driven pedals ba?

 I think kasi dito masasagot kung anu anu sa dalawa ang mas maganda eh...

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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2011, 09:41:06 AM »
And price wise... it's cheaper pa. \m/ Value for money on the speed cobra. Jackpot!

onga, its ALOT CHEAPER!!  magkano ba siya dito sa pinas?

sa ebay kase nasa 15k+ lang siya eh

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« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2011, 09:44:42 AM »
What's the deal between Direct and chain driven pedals ba?

 I think kasi dito masasagot kung anu anu sa dalawa ang mas maganda eh...

Direct Drive is of course, when the pedal board is attached directly to the cam that gets the beater movin. By being attached directly to it (i.e. Axis Pedals) you get the most direct connection between the movement/pressure of the foot to the pedal and the pedal to the head. The tough part with this one is, depending on what pedal you're looking at, regardless of the direct connection it may feel either too stiff or too "quick" as some would say.

Belt Drive is along the same lines as the Direct Drive except what unites the pedal board and the cam is a belt, usually of teflon, though I've seen ones made out of different materials. Again, what makes this kind of drive unique is how it transfers energy and pressure to the cams, while not being as "connected" as the direct drive, it removes the stiffness; given that the belt bends and moves freely. It's in some ways a perfect alternative to the direct drive in the sense of touch and feel.

Chain Drive is like exactly as it sounds, a small chain attached from the pedal board to the cam. The chain can be either thin or thick (thick referring to the chain on a bike for example). It retains the connectivity of the Belt Drive, but the feel may be slightly altered. This comes from the fact that move parts are moving than just the solid direct drive or belt drive. Each link has to more and slide on its own. The added benefit however, is the durability. Being a chain drive it's not going to stretch, though some manufacturers make crappy chains and some snap.

Double Chain Drive is also just as it sounds. Two chains (usually thinner ones) linking the pedal board and cam. Unlike the single chain, the double allows for more energy and pressure to be transfered to the cam at once, thus allowing a smoother action. You could compare this system to pulling something. Lets say you have a rope tied to something, you pull it with one arm and it moves. Now lets say you take that same object and tie a second rope to it, you pull with both arms. It would be easier to pull cuz you've got more force pulling against it. That's the idea behind the Double Chain Drive. My favorite!

All these "reviews" come from my personal experience. Honestly, the best way to tell the difference would be to try each out on your own and find the one that fits you best.

- reply from jonnyOZ

http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?203038-Direct-Drive-vs.-Belt-Drive-vs.-Chain-Drive-vs.-Double-Chain-Drive.