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Re: all about RUDIMENTS thread
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2007, 10:12:34 AM »


AYAN! Magandang topic yan sa susunod na eb! Sharing ng iba't-ibang versions ng paradiddles at applications sa drumkit :mrgreen:

Tama! kasi very basic yet mahirap sya dba? very essential pa sya....fundamentals nga...
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Re: all about RUDIMENTS thread
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2007, 08:06:56 AM »
salamat sa link Gep. time to get on with my rudiments hehehe  :-D

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Re: all about RUDIMENTS thread
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2007, 08:56:13 AM »
tumigil ako sa pagtatambol noon dahil naisip ko "i will never be an excellent drummer if i don't practice my rudiments." sadly, i found them boring.  PERO kung gusto mo maging super-drummer with special magical mystical powers, kailangan mo sila matutunan. 

haven't checked gep's post yet (i promise to be good this time, aaralin ko na) but in addition to the paradiddle eto yung mga naaalala ko (salamat B. Go):

single strokes - LRLR, RLRL
double strokes - LLRR, RRLL
accented triplets - LRLRLR AND VICE VERSA
isa pang klase ng triplets na di ko alam ang official name - LLR, RRL
isa pang triplets - LLL, RRR  useful yan sa samba :)
flam - LR and viceversa the two notes are executed very close to eachother, halos magkadikit.

there are also several ways of executing these rudiments:

the throw pull technique and wrist action. 

NEVER get addicted to the throw pull technique before developing your wrists.  the throw pull technique is great for ghost notes on the snare (and hats) but won't get u very far with toms.  kailangan sa toms mas malakas, use your wrists.

hope this helps.
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what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2007, 02:52:48 AM »
maga master ano po b pinaka importante n stroke sa rudiments?

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Re: what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2007, 05:30:42 AM »
I believe every rudiment has its significance.

But just like what Master Mar taught me and most of his students, rudiments are essentially build out of three elements...  single strokes, double strokes, and flams.


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Re: what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2007, 06:01:56 AM »
oh.. kasing-important din pala ng single stroke and double stroke ang flams.. hehe, kala ko ndi niya kalevel un.. hehe

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Re: what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2007, 09:02:58 AM »
sakin single stroke ang importante...pano mo magagawa ang flam kung hindi ka makahampas mi isa?


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Re: what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2007, 10:02:07 AM »
I believe every rudiment has its significance.

But just like what Master Mar taught me and most of his students, rudiments are essentially build out of three elements...  single strokes, double strokes, and flams.


 8-)


sensei anthony said it right...yes every rudiment is important..i suggest you check out dave weckl's back to basic instructional video also..he emphasized thre the importance of rudiments...and its application to the drumkit..cheers :wink:

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Re: what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2007, 10:25:31 AM »
Down stroke.  :evil:

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Re: what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2007, 10:29:35 AM »
what down stroke? you should work on your tiger's claw and praying mantis kung fu first  :-D

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Re: what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2007, 03:09:48 PM »
breast stroke...

hehehe..

but seriously, i think double strokes are important.
madali lang mag-single strokes eh yun ang unang natututunan pag nagsisimula magdrums. pero once you've mastered double strokes, a whole world of new ideas will come rushing at you so fast you won't know what to explore first!
hehehehe..

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Re: what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2007, 04:30:43 PM »
probably the single strokes because it is the most commonly used rudiment.

then doubles, then flam, then buzz roll.

its helpful to learn paradidles, 5, 7, 9...aralin na lahat.  :-D
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Re: what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2007, 08:33:10 PM »
I believe every rudiment has its significance.

But just like what Master Mar taught me and most of his students, rudiments are essentially build out of three elements...  single strokes, double strokes, and flams.


 8-)


sensei anthony said it right...yes every rudiment is important..i suggest you check out dave weckl's back to basic instructional video also..he emphasized thre the importance of rudiments...and its application to the drumkit..cheers :wink:

Yup, malaking pagbabago ang nangyari simula nung napanood ko yun. Malaking improvement sa rudiments and a new insight on drumming. I'm still figuring out kung pano translate sa brush though hehe....
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Re: what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2007, 01:35:22 AM »
I'm still figuring out kung pano translate sa brush though hehe....


OT...

Need to brush up your brush technique?  Hehe...  Go to the great brush master Clayton Cameron's website --- http://www.claytoncameron.com/ .  Check out the videos of his brush rudiments.

Here's another helpful brush link --- http://www.musiciansarchive.com/articles/drums/techniques/drums_techniques_brushes.htm .


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Re: what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2007, 11:13:16 AM »
Para sakin, double strokes din, kasi pinapakawalan niya ang kamay mo para maasikaso ang ibang bahagi ng drums. Parang the next level to.

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Re: what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2007, 11:16:07 AM »
Sakin breast stroke.

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Re: what is the most important stroke?
« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2007, 01:03:44 PM »
I use paradiddles most of the time, iba-ibang accent at version nga lang. Bale kasi combination sya ng single at double stroke,tapos flam paradiddle at buzz rolls.
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how do you practice rudiments?
« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2007, 11:15:27 PM »
Ya we know doubles are RR LL. but how are you suppose to practice them?
set the metronome to a certain BPM and then just play doubles till your hand gets sore? or mix them up with singles?

How do you guys practice them? :-D
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Re: how do you practice rudiments?
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2007, 08:59:31 AM »
hmmm..nice question manson...how do i practice a certain rudiment..

if you are an office working drummer..try to practice it during your breaktime, idle time or whnever your boss is not around..hahaha..thats why i always have my practice pad with me..of course practice it with a metronome..drums is instinct and you can feel it yourself if you can speed it up...

start with the right hand then sometimes start with the left hand to make it equal and balance..if you are comfortable already then try to aplly it on the drumset..man whenever i watch wwe or nba i alwys have a drumsticks with me a play rudiments while watching..hahaha..cheers manson...dont forget to teach me those jazz lessons you took..hehehe :wink:

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Re: how do you practice rudiments?
« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2007, 01:08:09 PM »
its good to know all rudiments by heart. set the metronome at a comfortable speed then play. tapos try to set it at a tempo below that. better yet, try sa different markings ng metro. and don't play until your hands are sore. :-D sakit un. stop at the first signs of tension, go back sa metro and start again. maganda rin to play along sa mga music tracks, or sing while playing.  :-D

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Re: how do you practice rudiments?
« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2007, 05:11:36 PM »
I always start playing very slowly, then gradually increase the speed, and go back slowly again, or play single strokes that sounds like paradiddles,and paradiddles with different accents.
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Re: how do you practice rudiments?
« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2007, 06:24:02 PM »
ya what i do in the office is while im sitting i do paradiddles with my feet. Hehe. just to keep me occupied.. try typing while doing rudiments with your feet, its trippy. :-)
even on the MRT, I do feet exercises.

I like practicing to music also, feels good.
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Re: how do you practice rudiments?
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2007, 06:30:37 PM »
just dont practice it when you're on a date..hahaha :wink:..my ex hates me for that hehehehe :wink:...cheers

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Re: how do you practice rudiments?
« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2007, 06:44:33 PM »
HAHAHA... I used to do that. :-D
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Re: how do you practice rudiments?
« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2007, 12:40:54 AM »
even on the MRT, I do feet exercises.

Hehehe ako naman sa lrt-2 pag papasok sa skul. :D

Kahit nakatayo pa ako at hindi nakahawak sa "saftey hand rails" :lol: :lol:
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