"Class A" Ibanez Jems

[bryanarzaga]

I know someone who charges at a very reasonable rate/price. Quality is superb! 

rufo? i think he's far from most guys

Bry, if it already feels, sounds and plays good, then he doesn't have to change anything, does he?

well yeah, but as far as copies go..i cant vouch for these especially the ibanez fakes..nobody has nailed a pre-production clone..nobody..and i thought when i had mine copied the cad and specs would be all over the place..nope, i tell you only a few will actually give you what you want..(mine came with an edge style trem that broke after a few days), needed a full fret level, electronics suck..but it had a good feel, but thats ok to me since i know what to do with it..and it cost me 120-usd shipped this was 2007

OT:
all these "my supplier my supplier" talk is all middle men, if you want a clone get the specs right..

what Vhunter details is true but point 4. is also true to guitars around 300-800usd range( PRS SE included)..guitar fretwork quality should be important..

but yeah stop buying fakes(brand name copies with the brand logo), this is only a DIYer guitarTinkerer's toy..if you're a musician looking for a guitar you can depend on  get a pre prod guitar..and go from there..

[arpeggiosfromheaven]

looks nice, for a copy. 

+1..

pero I'll gor RG na lang.

[guitarwiz02]

rufo? i think he's far from most guys

well yeah, but as far as copies go..i cant vouch for these especially the ibanez fakes..nobody has nailed a pre-production clone..nobody..and i thought when i had mine copied the cad and specs would be all over the place..nope, i tell you only a few will actually give you what you want..(mine came with an edge style trem that broke after a few days), needed a full fret level, electronics suck..but it had a good feel, but thats ok to me since i know what to do with it..and it cost me 120-usd shipped this was 2007

OT:
all these "my supplier my supplier" talk is all middle men, if you want a clone get the specs right..

what Vhunter details is true but point 4. is also true to guitars around 300-800usd range( PRS SE included)..guitar fretwork quality should be important..

but yeah stop buying fakes(brand name copies with the brand logo), this is only a DIYer guitarTinkerer's toy..if you're a musician looking for a guitar you can depend on  get a pre prod guitar..and go from there..

Yes. But there are others as well.

[bryanarzaga]

Yes. But there are others as well.

Ahvia? Micsis?...other than that..there's a bunch in cebu haha

[spankyrigor]

BTW in this context, the term "Class A" is short for "Class A Imitation", referring to the varying levels of quality among copies (or fakes or whatever). In the case of rubber shoes sold in Cartimar, there existed "Class B" and "Class C". Eventually the supplier figured nobody was buying the Class B or Class C items, (hindi na talaga mukhang Nike yung mga sapatos) so they stopped churning those out. Needless to say there was still quality control even with their line of work.   Same thing with apparel, bags, perfumes, etc. Nowadays lahat ng Fake ay "Class A".

Buyer beware nalang talaga.

[stringman]

this is only a DIYer guitarTinkerer's toy..

It's good enough to bastardize and play around.

BTW in this context, the term "Class A" is short for "Class A Imitation", referring to the varying levels of quality among copies (or fakes or whatever). In the case of rubber shoes sold in Cartimar, there existed "Class B" and "Class C". Eventually the supplier figured nobody was buying the Class B or Class C items, (hindi na talaga mukhang Nike yung mga sapatos) so they stopped churning those out. Needless to say there was still quality control even with their line of work.  Same thing with apparel, bags, perfumes, etc. Nowadays lahat ng Fake ay "Class A".

Buyer beware nalang talaga.

Spanky is right, it's not only happening on musical instruments. I think it's not a Pinoy thing when they say "Class A", try to go to 168 Mall and talk to the pure blooded Chinese traders there, they would still say it's "Class A".

[guitarwiz02]

Ahvia? Micsis?...other than that..there's a bunch in cebu haha

Haha! And here you are talkin' about how far Rufo is from most guys.hahaha!

[arpeggiosfromheaven]

Ahvia? Micsis?...other than that..there's a bunch in cebu haha

+1.

mas madami dun. guitar capital yata yun ng Pinas.

[firemodel55]

Haha! And here you are talkin' about how far Rufo is from most guys.hahaha!

Disagree... these guys are still far off from an Ibanez prestige.

[bryanarzaga]

It's good enough to bastardize and play around.

yesh! as long its worth the Time lol

@spanky

i like what you're saying..yes Buyer Beware!,

[maxi_musikero]

BTW in this context, the term "Class A" is short for "Class A Imitation", referring to the varying levels of quality among copies (or fakes or whatever). In the case of rubber shoes sold in Cartimar, there existed "Class B" and "Class C". Eventually the supplier figured nobody was buying the Class B or Class C items, (hindi na talaga mukhang Nike yung mga sapatos) so they stopped churning those out. Needless to say there was still quality control even with their line of work.   Same thing with apparel, bags, perfumes, etc. Nowadays lahat ng Fake ay "Class A".

Buyer beware nalang talaga.

sales talk is all.  fake is a negative-sounding word while class A sounds good. 

Disagree... these guys are still far off from an Ibanez prestige.

is this based on pre-judgments or actual experience?

[pualux]

it looks good for a copy, not an exact copy but still it's eye candy lol, don't know how it plays though

[arpeggiosfromheaven]

mga sirs , hindi ba ito offensive against the seller?

[pao2pao16]

mga sirs , hindi ba ito offensive against the seller?

If he's really into the business, he must accept consequences.
But yeah. If I were the seller, this thread might have offended me. But business is business.

This "class A" term must have a basis.

[arpeggiosfromheaven]

If he's really into the business, he must accept consequences.
But yeah. If I were the seller, this thread might have offended me. But business is business.

This "class A" term must have a basis.

yeah yer right. business is business.

[max28]

idk if you missed it or not. it's not MIJ.. it's MIK the ts stated it so. for me, for the 12k i'll just buy a nice 2nd hand s series(i prefer it more than rg).
and fyi, it doesn't have the jem feel and tone. i tried one and compared to my personal jem(which i traded to make way for a newer jem coming this july or august. lol) it's really different.

this!
maganda talaga S series masgusto ko to kesa sa mga RG's

[stringman]

I doubt if it's Korean, but in fairness it looks good.

[guitarwiz02]

Disagree... these guys are still far off from an Ibanez prestige.

Alex, how old are you? At exactly what age did you stop attending school?

Bryan and I are talkin' about "far" location-wise. You've got some comprehension issues, Alex.

[guitarwiz02]

Disagree... these guys are still far off from an Ibanez prestige.

is this based on pre-judgments or actual experience?

Well, I guess that includes his bestfriend luthier, Arie.

[bryanarzaga]

I doubt if it's Korean, but in fairness it looks good.

its chinese, it screams it..taobao has more interesting pieces lol(well strat types)

[markezekiel]

thanks for the input guys! ill just upgrade nalang pala my rg instead of buying those and hopefully magkaroon ng "hiyaw" gitara ko..hahaha!

[randymarsh]

even if you buy ten or twenty of those "class a" jems, it will not stand against an original used or beaten up ibanez jem

just to spice up the gas

 

[markezekiel]

tomo! 

[stringman]

Take a look at the ARAM line of guitars specifically models AIV-326MR and AIV327MBL

[thunder_shadow(raikage)]

kung wala kang pera pambili ng orig na jem d2 ka nlng tpos tadtarin mo nlng ng DIMARZIO's Na P.U

tpos konting sanding sa neck sa luthiers..tapos ang usapan... gumastos ka lng ng round 25-30k halos kamukha na..

120k isang orig na jem d2 sa pinas...BNEW...

you save round 80k...