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Offline mix

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Mga sir any experience sa  mga china amps sa bridge mode at 8 ohms load?

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2011, 12:06:53 PM »
sir sventa subok n yan in bridge mode, sa iloilo meron isang sounds doon n lumalaban sa battle of the sounds mga ma10 ang gamit nka bridge in 4 ohms,,meron kasing 4 ohms bridge ang ma10 not like crell n 8 ohms lng ang bridge power nya,,,ma10 2800 watts 8 ohms bridge at 4350 watts in 4 ohms bridge,,
« Last Edit: December 05, 2011, 12:08:11 PM by mants »

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2011, 03:10:51 AM »
sir sventa subok n yan in bridge mode, sa iloilo meron isang sounds doon n lumalaban sa battle of the sounds mga ma10 ang gamit nka bridge in 4 ohms,,meron kasing 4 ohms bridge ang ma10 not like crell n 8 ohms lng ang bridge power nya,,,ma10 2800 watts 8 ohms bridge at 4350 watts in 4 ohms bridge,,
Sir  wala din yata 4 ohms ang sventa,,8 ohms lng.

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2011, 05:48:59 AM »
Sir  wala din yata 4 ohms ang sventa,,8 ohms lng.
meron 4 ohms bridge ang ma10 sir..meron kc akong ma10,,, ito yong rear view ng ma10..                                         
« Last Edit: December 06, 2011, 06:56:53 AM by mants »

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 02:26:45 AM »
meron 4 ohms bridge ang ma10 sir..meron kc akong ma10,,, ito yong rear view ng ma10..                                         
ok ,,sir  salamat.meron nga.


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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 03:38:33 AM »
sir sventa subok n yan in bridge mode, sa iloilo meron isang sounds doon n lumalaban sa battle of the sounds mga ma10 ang gamit nka bridge in 4 ohms,,meron kasing 4 ohms bridge ang ma10 not like crell n 8 ohms lng ang bridge power nya,,,ma10 2800 watts 8 ohms bridge at 4350 watts in 4 ohms bridge,,

sir mants musta!..tanong lang, kaya ba ng MA-10 ang JH186 2per channel? 4 ohms bridge? parang napakataas naman ng specs ang S-venta amps...

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 06:49:55 AM »
sir mants musta!..tanong lang, kaya ba ng MA-10 ang JH186 2per channel? 4 ohms bridge? parang napakataas naman ng specs ang S-venta amps...
eto ok lng sir,,yong 4350 watts total power n ng buong amps yan sir in 4 ohms bridge,,,pag nka bridge n kc ung amps magiging 1 channel nlang , kung baga mag co combine n ung ch.1 & ch.2,,,, at ang magiging connection mo doon pra s speaker,,,,ung  + ng ch.1 = + ng speaker  at yong + ng ch.2 = - ng speaker tapos nka parallel nlang ung 2 speaker pra 4 ohms.....  kya 2 jh186 sa ma10 in 4 ohms bridge mode ayos n ayos lang sir,
« Last Edit: December 07, 2011, 06:54:01 AM by mants »

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2011, 11:05:57 AM »
B0z mants natRy ny0 na ba anG ganit0ng set-up sa actuAl gig?

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2011, 12:06:25 PM »
B0z mants natRy ny0 na ba anG ganit0ng set-up sa actuAl gig?
dko pa na try sir,,maybe soon i will try,, nakasama ko at nakausap ko ung isa ma may ari ng 1 sounds sa iloilo na gumagamit ng ma10 sa mga battle in 4 ohms bridge , maganda at iba daw ang bayo ng bass solid..but alam mo nman tayo diba to hear is to believe.. e ta try ko din ah kung tutuo nga hehe.....pro dpa ngaun,, nsa ibang lugar pa kc ako,,,, mas maganda pa nga ung protection ng sventa compare sa crell,,,,napag short ko minsan ung speaker output ng ch 1 & 2 ng MA10..e nag  protect n kaagad ung protect indicator led nya,,,samantala ung crell dman lang nag light ung protect indicator nya kahit nag short n yong ch.1 & 2 speaker output,,,
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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2011, 04:18:52 PM »
0k na balita yan B0z mants.  Sana makamusTa m0 yung frend m0 sa il0ilo kunG ok pa anG set-up nila sa Sventa Ma amps.  :)

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2011, 05:02:59 PM »
0k na balita yan B0z mants.  Sana makamusTa m0 yung frend m0 sa il0ilo kunG ok pa anG set-up nila sa Sventa Ma amps.  :)
yes sir..maybe this sunday baka mag kikita uli kami,,mag tatanong na naman  ako about sa performance nitong sventa pag ginagamit nila sa battle o setup..

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2011, 08:23:21 PM »
In my manual  (Sventa 10} is no 4 ohms mono bridge,only 8 ohms.
I did email Kolin, the supplier of Sventa and did include the link to this discussion.
As of now no reply.
I am curious about the 4 ohms mono bridge, did never try is because also the seller, Musicphile in Dau, told me that it is only 8 ohms.
If you try please let know the result and maybe the wiring diagram?
Thanks...............

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2011, 08:26:20 PM »
Also in my manual it is only 2100 watt mono bridge 8 ohms, in the back of the amplifier i read 2800.
Strange...................Chinese?

hehehehe......................

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2011, 01:26:39 AM »
Also in my manual it is only 2100 watt mono bridge 8 ohms, in the back of the amplifier i read 2800.
Strange...................Chinese?

hehehehe......................
oo nga sir mgkaiba sa amp rear panel at sa manual,,si kolin lng cguro ang may alam kng alin ang totoo.

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2011, 07:04:37 AM »
chinese pa  :),,,pero malaki din naman ang na e tulong nitong mga china amps sa idustria ng sounds system, kc di naman lahat ay kayang bumili ng mga branded o mamahaling amps. :)
« Last Edit: December 08, 2011, 07:18:08 AM by mants »

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2011, 12:06:06 PM »
chinese pa  :),,,pero malaki din naman ang na e tulong nitong mga china amps sa idustria ng sounds system, kc di naman lahat ay kayang bumili ng mga branded o mamahaling amps. :)

...Bossing Mants yung mga kakilala ko naman nag-bridge ng Sventa (4 ohms) nagkaproblema daw yung amps nila...kami naman nagtry sa ACM amps ganun din...safe pa rin ang stereo mode sa China brands in my opinion...,, :wink:

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2011, 04:55:35 PM »
...Bossing Mants yung mga kakilala ko naman nag-bridge ng Sventa (4 ohms) nagkaproblema daw yung amps nila...kami naman nagtry sa ACM amps ganun din...safe pa rin ang stereo mode sa China brands in my opinion...,, :wink:
ganon ba sir..mahirap palang isapalaran sa bridge mode ang amps na ito..sabagay kahit nka stereo lng ayos n rin nman..

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2011, 07:58:51 PM »
yung early days ng soundstandard power amps - m.a. at c.a. series,  kami ng xstatic tested these models at bridge mono - first at simple 8 ohms: 1 speaker = 1 amp.  looks ok.  the m.a. series ang medyo mabilis mag-clip than the c.a.  pero at 4 ohms bridged na, humihinto ang amp.  even sa c.a. series nagkakaproblem.

it seems to me it's because the amp has only one toroidal transformer.  i.m.h.o. dual toroidal transformers will be stable on 4 ohms bridge mono set-ups.

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2011, 08:11:31 PM »
Eto mga sir dual mono amps,

ACM 2800.2
Phonic XP5000

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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2011, 03:58:42 AM »
 Tanong mga sir,,,kng 8ohms mono bridge.. ang both channel is 4 ohms,,at kng 4 ohms mono bridge both channel is 2 ohms?di ba stress ang amp masyado.?

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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2011, 07:57:50 AM »
Tanong mga sir,,,kng 8ohms mono bridge.. ang both channel is 4 ohms,,at kng 4 ohms mono bridge both channel is 2 ohms?di ba stress ang amp masyado.?

yes kung di rated ng 2 ohm load ang amp delikado if used with a 4 ohm load in bridged mode.

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« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2011, 09:29:38 AM »
Ingat na lang kayo mga brad dahil sa stereo operation nga lang nagkaka-isyu na ang mga gawang tsina, sa bridge pa kaya?

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2011, 07:06:28 PM »
yes kung di rated ng 2 ohm load ang amp delikado if used with a 4 ohm load in bridged mode.
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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2011, 08:06:43 PM »
yes kung di rated ng 2 ohm load ang amp delikado if used with a 4 ohm load in bridged mode.
sir ano sa palagay mo dito sa ep4000 kc meron syang 2 ohms load..safe kaya ito sa 4 ohms bridge,

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Re: Crell,Sventa,Live,Acm, etc.. na nasubukan nyo na ba sa BRIDGE MODE?
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2011, 05:36:51 PM »
sir ano sa palagay mo dito sa ep4000 kc meron syang 2 ohms load..safe kaya ito sa 4 ohms bridge,

i think the ep4000 and the ep2500 has similar footprint.  they both have one toroidal transformer.  i haven't tested one but an amp with only one toroidal transformer may exhibit instability on lower impedance bridging set-ups.

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