Author Topic: crell CA20 (Read 18934 times)

mikelsohgud · « **Reply #25 on:** January 31, 2012, 06:01:02 PM »

Quote from: lighttech on January 31, 2012, 11:59:58 AM

The number of steps in a class-H amplifier refers to the number of levels its power supply has. It has nothing to do with the number of pre-amp stages as you were referring to. The more the number of steps, the better the efficiency but with the trade-off of more distortion (crossing between the steps introduces distortion, though can be minimized). Why do class-H have power supply steps? To improve efficiency, and to enable high output power levels. High output levels calls for high power supply rails. Current high quality power transistors do not have sufficient Vceo ratings for those rails and having power supply rail steps enable these transistors to be used safely in high output power power amps.

You clearly have no idea on the technical matter you were talking on. Another case of trash-talking the competition? You don't have to do that, just lower prices and we will consider your brand on our next purchase..

Thumbs up sir..

eirol_99 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 31, 2012, 06:21:31 PM »

Quote from: lighttech on January 30, 2012, 11:58:33 PM

naku, wag po magkalat ng technical mis-information.. halatang hearsay po ang info ninyo..
ang 3-step has something to do with the number of power supply tiers/rails..

+1 class H

eirol_99 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 31, 2012, 08:57:57 PM »

di kaya may peke na crell na rin? kasi crell na ata ang isa sa pinakamaraming nabenta na ampli na china brand.

yan · « **Reply #28 on:** January 31, 2012, 09:42:59 PM »

fake CRELL in the market? so how can identify which is fake? please point out

Audiomaster · « **Reply #29 on:** January 31, 2012, 09:47:03 PM »

Quote from: yan on January 31, 2012, 09:42:59 PM

fake CRELL in the market? so how can identify which is fake? please point out

Walang fake na crell yung mga huling labas nila hindi ok ang mga quality yung mga luma mas ok ang quality

lighttech · « **Reply #30 on:** January 31, 2012, 09:55:28 PM »

Quote from: Audiomaster on January 31, 2012, 01:32:31 PM

Am not selling anything Am just tell the truth crell has a very poor quality .

Are you a user of recently bought crell?? Well, I AM and I can not find a difference between the "old" and "new" versions.

If you are not a user, then all you say are, again, hearsay.

Audiomaster · « **Reply #31 on:** January 31, 2012, 10:00:06 PM »

Quote from: lighttech on January 31, 2012, 09:55:28 PM

Are you a user of recently bought crell?? Well, I AM and I can not find a difference between the "old" and "new" versions. If you are not a user, then all you say are, again, hearsay.

May be you are one of the dealers of crell , am a user before but i sell my crell it burn my speaker i bought my crell last year but i sell it at low price now am using soundstandsrd

lighttech · « **Reply #32 on:** January 31, 2012, 10:16:34 PM »

Quote from: Audiomaster on January 31, 2012, 10:00:06 PM

May be you are one of the dealers of crell , am a user before but i sell my crell it burn my speaker i bought my crell last year but i sell it at low price now am using soundstandsrd

Sorry, nope..

Just a proud user. Kahit hanapin mo lahat ng posts ko kung makikita mong nag-endorse ako ng crell.

Kaya lang naman ako napadaan dito sa thread na ito ay dahil sa mis-information mo regarding sa "steps" in class-H. And that is what I hate most, people acting like they know something but does not.. Just please don't discuss technical matters that you do NOT have ANY IDEA about..

Audiomaster · « **Reply #33 on:** January 31, 2012, 10:25:23 PM »

Quote from: lighttech on January 31, 2012, 10:16:34 PM

Sorry, nope.. Just a proud user. Kahit hanapin mo lahat ng posts ko kung makikita mong nag-endorse ako ng crell. Kaya lang naman ako napadaan dito sa thread na ito ay dahil sa mis-information mo regarding sa "steps" in class-H. And that is what I hate most, people acting like they know something but does not.. Just please don't discuss technical matters that you do NOT have ANY IDEA about..

Yap you know a lot in techical thats why you are using crell amp

lighttech · « **Reply #34 on:** January 31, 2012, 10:33:21 PM »

Quote from: Audiomaster on January 31, 2012, 10:25:23 PM

Yap you know a lot in techical thats why you are using crell amp

Correction. I know some technical matters and that is why I am not afraid to use crell.

BTW, I use a lot of brands..

chopsuey yung laman ng amp racks ko.

PS

My apologies to the thread starter and followers for whatever inconveniences that I may have caused.

Audiomaster · « **Reply #35 on:** January 31, 2012, 11:26:55 PM »

Quote from: mants on January 31, 2012, 11:09:08 PM

any way kung magkataon man n ang mabili mong crell amps ay defective eh pwede nman yan nilang palitan. sa tingin ko di nman lahat n bagong labas n crell ay sirain,, baka mayroon lang talaga siguro n mangilan ngilang defective item n nka kalusot kc hindi siguro mahigpit ang QC nila ,,,chinese QC ika nga

If ever wala na siguro na ibang amp na mabibili na good quality il buy the crell again but in the market maraming pagpipilian ngayon na magaganda ang quality bakit ako magtiyatiyaga sa crell ang daming naman pagpipilian sa market hindi pa pang all around ang crell madumi pa tumunog sa mid hi yung lang po ang aking opion

eirol_99 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:40:06 AM »

kung sa testing pa lang eh umuusok na, then cgurado na alarm na mga tiga kolin why their product suddenly went bad, and siguro may steps na silang ginawa about the usok problem. pag ako buyer ng crell at first use pa lang eh umusok na eh ok lang, under warranty pa naman, ibalik sa pinagbilhan, pag ok relationship nyo ng supplier nyo eh baka palitan pa ng new unit ang nasira.

so far maganda naman tumunog crell namin used sa mid hi namin.

any other crell users here? share naman po your experiences about crell.

soundtech · « **Reply #37 on:** February 01, 2012, 02:12:13 PM »

para sa akin, kung may quality ang CRELL power amplifier hindi na niya kailangan kumopya pa sa outer appearance ng SOUNDSTANDARD power amp . wala ba silang "ORIGINALITY" opinion lang po.

lighttech · « **Reply #38 on:** February 01, 2012, 09:54:37 PM »

Quote from: soundtech on February 01, 2012, 02:12:13 PM

para sa akin, kung may quality ang CRELL power amplifier hindi na niya kailangan kumopya pa sa outer appearance ng SOUNDSTANDARD power amp . wala ba silang "ORIGINALITY" opinion lang po.

Originality in chinese amps?

Hehehe, Get real dude.. Chinese amps are not original at all.

Audiomaster · « **Reply #39 on:** February 02, 2012, 02:50:29 AM »

Quote from: lighttech on February 01, 2012, 09:54:37 PM

Originality in chinese amps? Hehehe, Get real dude.. Chinese amps are not original at all.

Little knowledge is dangerous

asamantejr · « **Reply #40 on:** February 02, 2012, 06:32:31 AM »

mga sir, mas maganda daw ang crell CA16 kesa sa CA20? for sub woofer po... sabi lang po ng isang kilalang tech/DJ sa amin na nakausap ko. nagte tech o pumipihit din po siya sa kay bamboo at ibang kilala na banda dati.. taga bulacan po. thnx.

yan · « **Reply #41 on:** February 02, 2012, 09:36:12 AM »

Quote from: soundtech on February 01, 2012, 02:12:13 PM

para sa akin, kung may quality ang CRELL power amplifier hindi na niya kailangan kumopya pa sa outer appearance ng SOUNDSTANDARD power amp . wala ba silang "ORIGINALITY" opinion lang po.

I am confused. the outer appearance of CRELL and SOUNDSTANDARD is the same. who is the copycat???who is first in the market???

lighttech · « **Reply #42 on:** February 02, 2012, 09:48:08 AM »

Quote from: Audiomaster on February 02, 2012, 02:50:29 AM

Little knowledge is dangerous

Can you honestly say that Soundstandard CA-series is 100% original (model number, appearance, etc.)? Sa dinami-dami ng letra, bakit CA ang model preffix? Tapos sa dinami-dami ng numbers, bakit 4, 6, 9, 18? Sa appearance pa lang, hindi rin 100% original ang Soundstandard. The air vents and knobs are very similar to Crest Audio's CA series.

Ngayon

Quote from: soundtech on February 01, 2012, 02:12:13 PM

para sa akin, kung may quality ang CRELL power amplifier hindi na niya kailangan kumopya pa sa outer appearance ng SOUNDSTANDARD power amp . wala ba silang "ORIGINALITY" opinion lang po.

hindi na dapat kailangan kumopya ng SOUNDSTANDARD sa outer appearance, model number ng Crest, kung may originality sila. (to borrow the logic)

Quote from: yan on February 02, 2012, 09:36:12 AM

I am confused. the outer appearance of CRELL and SOUNDSTANDARD is the same. who is the copycat???who is first in the market???

ALL CA-series china amps are riding on the reputation/popularity of Crest Audio CA-series.

Soundstandard, Crell, Soundquest, etc.. are all copycats..

Quote from: mants on February 02, 2012, 07:25:19 AM

kung mga 600 watts rms lang yong speaker sir ok n ang ca16 pero kung mga 1000watts rms mas maganda pag ca20.. ca16 1000w/ch. 8 ohms - 1800w/ch.4 ohms,,,,,Ca20 1200w/ch. 8 ohms- 2000w/ch. 4 ohms,,

+1..

Jef2 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 02, 2012, 10:05:28 AM »

Quote from: barracks01 on January 30, 2012, 04:12:43 PM

hanggang ngayon ba gnamit pa rin ni Mon xtatic yong mga soundstandard nya? di ba nag shift na sya sa mga powered rcf.

yes meron pa siya on some groups. still using the old c18 650w on diy subscoops and dual18 subs. wala naman masyadong speaker problems kaya we can say match ang sound standard ca18 sa c18 650w (old series).

Quote from: lighttech on February 02, 2012, 09:48:08 AM

Can you honestly say that Soundstandard CA-series is 100% original (model number, appearance, etc.)? Sa dinami-dami ng letra, bakit CA ang model preffix? Tapos sa dinami-dami ng numbers, bakit 4, 6, 9, 18? Sa appearance pa lang, hindi rin 100% original ang Soundstandard. The air vents and knobs are very similar to Crest Audio's CA series.

Ngayon hindi na dapat kailangan kumopya ng SOUNDSTANDARD sa outer appearance, model number ng Crest, kung may originality sila. (to borrow the logic)

ALL CA-series china amps are riding on the reputation/popularity of Crest Audio CA-series. Soundstandard, Crell, Soundquest, etc.. are all copycats..

+1..

very true

yan · « **Reply #44 on:** February 02, 2012, 11:28:48 AM »

Quote from: lighttech on February 02, 2012, 09:48:08 AM

Can you honestly say that Soundstandard CA-series is 100% original (model number, appearance, etc.)? Sa dinami-dami ng letra, bakit CA ang model preffix? Tapos sa dinami-dami ng numbers, bakit 4, 6, 9, 18? Sa appearance pa lang, hindi rin 100% original ang Soundstandard. The air vents and knobs are very similar to Crest Audio's CA series.

Ngayonhindi na dapat kailangan kumopya ng SOUNDSTANDARD sa outer appearance, model number ng Crest, kung may originality sila. (to borrow the logic)
ALL CA-series china amps are riding on the reputation/popularity of Crest Audio CA-series. Soundstandard, Crell, Soundquest, etc.. are all copycats..

I checked the both CREST AUDIO and SOUNDSTANDRAD. Aside from using the CA series, there are nothing in common.
I just wander among these Chinese brands(CRELL, SOUNDQUEST, SOUNDSTANDARD, DYNATECH) in the market today. who has this original design and out appearance? Anybody has the idea?

soundtech · « **Reply #45 on:** February 02, 2012, 12:32:47 PM »

Ang pinagusapan natin dito ay outer appearance not the model number, saan ba kumopya ang crell? obviously yun design ng crest audio di kaparehas ng crell.

soundtech · « **Reply #46 on:** February 02, 2012, 12:38:27 PM »

Quote from: yan on February 02, 2012, 09:36:12 AM

I am confused. the outer appearance of CRELL and SOUNDSTANDARD is the same. who is the copycat???who is first in the market???

Soundstandard po ang nauna sa market, more than 10 yrs na po sya. ewan ko sa crell kung kailan nag umpisa.

eirol_99 · « **Reply #47 on:** February 02, 2012, 12:43:30 PM »

soundstandard is a china brand name, crell is a brand name by kolin, di nga natin alam baka iisang factory galing ang soundstand at crell. sa china kasi pede ka magpagawa ng sarili mong "brand" basta malakihan ang order mo..

kaya dito lang sa pinas may crell kasi kay kolin yan, kahit search natin sa net, dito lang sa pinas meron.

soundstandard is made by www.saeaudio.com, na baka dito rin nag pa OEM si kolin ng crell. just a thought po...

barracks01 · « **Reply #48 on:** February 02, 2012, 03:53:34 PM »

Quote from: eirol_99 on February 02, 2012, 12:43:30 PM

soundstandard is a china brand name, crell is a brand name by kolin, di nga natin alam baka iisang factory galing ang soundstand at crell. sa china kasi pede ka magpagawa ng sarili mong "brand" basta malakihan ang order mo..

kaya dito lang sa pinas may crell kasi kay kolin yan, kahit search natin sa net, dito lang sa pinas meron.

soundstandard is made by www.saeaudio.com, na baka dito rin nag pa OEM si kolin ng crell. just a thought po...

+1

sound standard nag eexport pa sila sa europe...walang crell sa europe only in the philippines lang.

king_james · « **Reply #49 on:** February 02, 2012, 04:00:52 PM »

If Soundstandard is a global brand, then it must have better quality control measures. just my two cents since I haven't really tried one.

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Author Topic: crell CA20 (Read 18934 times)