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Offline ryechua

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« Reply #125 on: May 18, 2012, 06:13:10 PM »
also consider different tubes have different characteristics.. comparing EL84 vs 6V6 vs EL34 etc etc.. amps like egnater can blend EL84 and 6V6.. if you're decided on getting tube amps, dapat pag aralan mo na rin yung responsible tube amp owner guide (parang pet owner)  :lol:
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« Reply #126 on: May 18, 2012, 06:15:33 PM »
Actually, kanina morning nabenta ko na yung AT-30 to some old rich guy who owns a Fender twin reverb tube amp/VOX ADT120 Valvetronix/Fender 112 deluxe/blues jr. and other high end fenders (orig '66 jazzmaster and '62 reissue na jazzmaster) and the complete studio gear.  Sabi nya sakin, parang Blues jr. or Fender Hot Rod daw yung sound nung AT-30.  Hindi pa naman ako naka try ng blues jr. and hot rod.  Medyo I'm not into classic tube sound kasi.  Compared to the HT40, thick and middy ang sound ng AT-30.  Parang Valveking 112, pero with more presence and overtones.

Ang nakakatawa, after nya bilhin yung AT-30, binili ko yung Boss FV-50L nya na pedal na di na nya ginagamit, haha, so wala din kita, lugi pa. 

Sayang nga e, di mat try ni Pete yung AT-30 na Goldea.

Mismo.

Why I like the HT-20 but not much. Haha. Modern kasi masyado ang voicing niya para sa akin. The C30 has more of a classic, thick, middy, throaty, and gritty sound. I have not tried a Blue Jr nor a Hot Rod, pero yung binigay niyong description niya ay reminiscent sakin ng C30..

Baka magkasundo din pala kami ng AT-30.. siguro parang cheaper alternative sa C30.. I've got to try one out minsan..  :-)

also consider different tubes have different characteristics.. comparing EL84 vs 6V6 vs EL34 etc etc.. amps like egnater can blend EL84 and 6V6.. if you're decided on getting tube amps, dapat pag aralan mo na rin yung responsible tube amp owner guide (parang pet owner)  :lol:

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« Reply #127 on: May 18, 2012, 06:15:55 PM »
Hahaha.. Yup, locally available. Pinost ko yung thread ni spankyrigor ng mga tubes.. Meron din sa Epektos, pero mas mura ng konti kay spanky.. Yung mga preamp tubes, depende sa klase, can go around 500-1000php EACH.

Yung power tubes, depende rin kung EL84, EL34, 6V6, 6L6, etc.. andun naman yung prices sa thread niya par magka-idea ka..

Yung C30 ko dati pinakawalan ko eh, nakay brown na.. pero pinakawalan na rin ata niya.. :p Nakakamiss lang kasi nung tinry ko yung C30 nina micsis gamit yung LP ko, parang gusto ko i-uwi yung amp niya.. Heaven.. Hehehe..


Pedals lang yun sir..  ^-^

Anak ng pitumpu't pitong puting tupa!!!  Aabot ng isang libo ang isa?!!!  Katakot naman yan!!!  Gano katagal ko naman magagamit yun?  Hindi naman siguto taon-taon kailangan palitan yun, no?  :razz:  :razz:  :razz:

Uy...  Pehdulz...  High end ito!!!  Weeeeeeeehhh!!!   :lol:

sarap naman!!! kumpletong kumpleto pati si Kernelsalonpas V.I.P. guest! hahaha pics guys!! Pete inom mo ako ng malamig na malamig na san mig light!

Hindi ako umiinom, bro...  Maggigitara lang ako.  Hihihihihihihihi...   :-P

Habol ka din, bro!!!  Lezgow!  Hahaha!!!!  :-D

Actually, kanina morning nabenta ko na yung AT-30 to some old rich guy who owns a Fender twin reverb tube amp/VOX ADT120 Valvetronix/Fender 112 deluxe/blues jr. and other high end fenders (orig '66 jazzmaster and '62 reissue na jazzmaster) and the complete studio gear.  Sabi nya sakin, parang Blues jr. or Fender Hot Rod daw yung sound nung AT-30.  Hindi pa naman ako naka try ng blues jr. and hot rod.  Medyo I'm not into classic tube sound kasi.  Compared to the HT40, thick and middy ang sound ng AT-30.  Parang Valveking 112, pero with more presence and overtones.

Ang nakakatawa, after nya bilhin yung AT-30, binili ko yung Boss FV-50L nya na pedal na di na nya ginagamit, haha, so wala din kita, lugi pa. 

Sayang nga e, di mat try ni Pete yung AT-30 na Goldea.


Hahaha!  May binili ka din pala sa kanya...

Bro, texted you...  Regarding directions?  Landmarks?   :lol:

also consider different tubes have different characteristics.. comparing EL84 vs 6V6 vs EL34 etc etc.. amps like egnater can blend EL84 and 6V6.. if you're decided on getting tube amps, dapat pag aralan mo na rin yung responsible tube amp owner guide (parang pet owner)  :lol:

Dang!!!  Dami ko pala kailangan pag-aralan pa...   :?  :?  :?

Pag kailangan ng blood donor ng tube amp na bibilhin ko, magpo-post lang ako dito.
Teka, sinasalinan din ba ng dugo ang tube amp?  Hihihihi...
Joke lang, sir...  Thanks sa mga tips!   :wave:
« Last Edit: May 18, 2012, 06:17:50 PM by freemansj »

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« Reply #128 on: May 18, 2012, 06:18:30 PM »
You know what, naisip ko na din yan...  But the again, nag-isip ako ulit...  Gano kadalas ba ang "gigs" namin?  Parang 3 months na nga yata yung huling jam namin nina Martin e. Hahaha!  :lol:

Pero that would be nice nga sana, no?  Kahit yung 1 watt na Blackstar sana for bedroom use...

So, naisip ko now, bili na lang ako ng "medium sized" na amp.  30 - 40 watts.  Yun na ang gagamitin sa bedroom at sa "gigs" na hindi nagaganap.  LOL!  :lol:

30 to 40 watts is not bad pewede na pang gig yan. Magkano mga 40 watts na blackstar ngayon?
I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones.

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« Reply #129 on: May 18, 2012, 06:19:30 PM »
30 to 40 watts is not bad pewede na pang gig yan. Magkano mga 40 watts na blackstar ngayon?

1k per watt...  Hehehe...  Around 40k nung nagtanong ako last week e.   :money:


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« Reply #130 on: May 18, 2012, 06:21:31 PM »
1k per watt...  Hehehe...  Around 40k nung nagtanong ako last week e.   :money:

May konting sukli ka pa paa sa budget mo he he.... ayaw mo ng mga lumang amp like the ones lumabas ng 80's or 90's? may nakikita ako minsan Fender Blues Jr. or Deville, maganda rin drive nun and ok din sa cleans.
I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones.

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« Reply #131 on: May 18, 2012, 06:21:52 PM »
Anak ng pitumpu't pitong puting tupa!!!  Aabot ng isang libo ang isa?!!!  Katakot naman yan!!!  Gano katagal ko naman magagamit yun?  Hindi naman siguto taon-taon kailangan palitan yun, no?  :razz:  :razz:  :razz:

Uy...  Pehdulz...  High end ito!!!  Weeeeeeeehhh!!!   :lol:

Yung mga JJ (12AX7 preamp tube), nasa 550 lang ang isa.. ok na ang JJ..  :-)

Yung life ng tube, depende yan bro.. hindi mo rin masasabi kasi dependent yan sa kung gano mo kadalas gamitin, kung gano sila kadalas napupush at yung level ng pagpush sa kanila..

Syempre kung lagi mo kia-crank tapos ang lakas ng volume, mas madali mo sila mawwear out.. Pero may mga tubes din naman na lemon, yun yung mga bigla na lang bumibigay.. parang factory defect..

Anyway, a good tube with regular use may last you 2-3 years siguro..

Basta be ready na lang pag may pumalya.. haha..

Oi di ako masyadong maka high end pagdating sa pedals.. yung tama lang.. practical lang..  :-)


Konting idea lang.. eto yung parang una kong naiisip na amp models pagdating sa power tubes..

6L6 - Fender
EL34 - Marshall
EL84 - Vox

Ayan.. pero sakin lang yan ha.. subject to trial naman lahat ng amp..

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« Reply #132 on: May 18, 2012, 06:22:04 PM »
for reference... eto yung tubuhan.. err.. online shop kung gusto mo mag check ng usual prices

http://analogtubes.com/tubeshop/index.php
doh!!!

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« Reply #133 on: May 18, 2012, 06:32:17 PM »
Yung mga JJ (12AX7 preamp tube), nasa 550 lang ang isa.. ok na ang JJ..  :-)

Yung life ng tube, depende yan bro.. hindi mo rin masasabi kasi dependent yan sa kung gano mo kadalas gamitin, kung gano sila kadalas napupush at yung level ng pagpush sa kanila..

Syempre kung lagi mo kia-crank tapos ang lakas ng volume, mas madali mo sila mawwear out.. Pero may mga tubes din naman na lemon, yun yung mga bigla na lang bumibigay.. parang factory defect..

Anyway, a good tube with regular use may last you 2-3 years siguro..

Basta be ready na lang pag may pumalya.. haha..

Oi di ako masyadong maka high end pagdating sa pedals.. yung tama lang.. practical lang..  :-)


Konting idea lang.. eto yung parang una kong naiisip na amp models pagdating sa power tubes..

6L6 - Fender
EL34 - Marshall
EL84 - Vox

Ayan.. pero sakin lang yan ha.. subject to trial naman lahat ng amp..

Dude, you really are an amp nerd...  LOL!!! 
Salamat sa mga bagong kaalaman, Kuya Kim!!!   :lol:

for reference... eto yung tubuhan.. err.. online shop kung gusto mo mag check ng usual prices

http://analogtubes.com/tubeshop/index.php

Wow!  Salamat, bro...  Bookmarked!   :)

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« Reply #134 on: May 18, 2012, 06:37:52 PM »
Dude, you really are an amp nerd...  LOL!!! 
Salamat sa mga bagong kaalaman, Kuya Kim!!!   :lol:

Bro, medyo rocket science ang dating pag iniimage lang.. pero once nagkaroon ka na ng tube amp, dun mo mas maiintindihan yung technicalities.. Syempre kasi hands on na saka nakikita mong gumagana.. Go for it na.. You'll learn a lot, a whole new world.. Hahaha..

Nung una nahirapan din ako intindihin yan kasi vague talaga pag binabasa lang.. Pero maliit pa lang nalalaman ko kahit ngayon.. Wala pa talaga yan kumpara sa mga talagang amp genius, baka kapirasong general knowledge pa lang yan.. Hahaha..

Good luck bro!  :-)

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« Reply #135 on: May 18, 2012, 06:42:54 PM »
Bro, medyo rocket science ang dating pag iniimage lang.. pero once nagkaroon ka na ng tube amp, dun mo mas maiintindihan yung technicalities.. Syempre kasi hands on na saka nakikita mong gumagana.. Go for it na.. You'll learn a lot, a whole new world.. Hahaha..

Nung una nahirapan din ako intindihin yan kasi vague talaga pag binabasa lang.. Pero maliit pa lang nalalaman ko kahit ngayon.. Wala pa talaga yan kumpara sa mga talagang amp genius, baka kapirasong general knowledge pa lang yan.. Hahaha..

Good luck bro!  :-)

Salamat, kapatid...  I'm sure bubulahawin kita sa FB pag may tanong ako.  Hahaha!

So far, sa mga available dito sa Pinas, eto ang mga kino-consider ko:
1.  Peavey Classic 30 (or 50.  Hehehe...)
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2.  Blackstar HT20 or HT40
3.  Albion TCT35
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4.  Fender Deluxe Reverb (Pag nasama sa MESS ng Yupangco)
5.  Fender Super Sonic 22 (Pag nasama sa MESS.  Hehehe...)
6.  Siochi combo
« Last Edit: May 18, 2012, 07:12:06 PM by freemansj »

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« Reply #136 on: May 18, 2012, 08:06:55 PM »
Salamat, kapatid...  I'm sure bubulahawin kita sa FB pag may tanong ako.  Hahaha!

So far, sa mga available dito sa Pinas, eto ang mga kino-consider ko:
1.  Peavey Classic 30 (or 50.  Hehehe...)
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2.  Blackstar HT20 or HT40
3.  Albion TCT35
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4.  Fender Deluxe Reverb (Pag nasama sa MESS ng Yupangco)
5.  Fender Super Sonic 22 (Pag nasama sa MESS.  Hehehe...)
6.  Siochi combo

my vote goes for the classic 30


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« Reply #137 on: May 18, 2012, 08:14:40 PM »
my vote goes for the classic 30


Yan!  :cute:
(sorry, maka vintage na sound..)
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« Reply #138 on: May 18, 2012, 08:20:28 PM »
kelan tone party? sa makati lang din office ko. lol!
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« Reply #139 on: May 19, 2012, 01:33:47 AM »
kelan tone party? sa makati lang din office ko. lol!

uy, sayang! nandito pa kami, if ever, hehe.  Nandito freemansj at kernelsalonpas.

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« Reply #140 on: May 19, 2012, 01:38:33 AM »
Ask ko lang po,

Sapat na po ba ang 30w tube amp sa isang maliit na church (50-70 people)? Yung tipong di ako lulubog pag sinabayan ng bass at drums..

Thanks!

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« Reply #141 on: May 19, 2012, 04:55:52 AM »
Potek! Longest toanz party ever! 8pm to.... Errrr... Kafadating ko lang sa bahay... 4:30am!!!  Weeeeeeeeehhh!!! :-D

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« Reply #142 on: May 19, 2012, 05:12:03 AM »
Ang aga ah!
I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones.

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« Reply #143 on: May 19, 2012, 08:05:29 AM »
Ask ko lang po,

Sapat na po ba ang 30w tube amp sa isang maliit na church (50-70 people)? Yung tipong di ako lulubog pag sinabayan ng bass at drums..

Thanks!

Volume, yes.

Clean headroom, debatable, but I think it can deliver depending on which amp.

Potek! Longest toanz party ever! 8pm to.... Errrr... Kafadating ko lang sa bahay... 4:30am!!!  Weeeeeeeeehhh!!! :-D

Pics at tone report at GAS report pag gising mo bro..  :-D


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« Reply #144 on: May 19, 2012, 11:00:11 AM »
sarap naman!!! kumpletong kumpleto pati si Kernelsalonpas V.I.P. guest! hahaha pics guys!! Pete inom mo ako ng malamig na malamig na san mig light!

Dapat makijoin din ang P.O.G.I. club(pinoy offset guitar inc.)  dyan alam ko may tone party din silang plinaplano with Rob eh..@Paltic and Treblelovescene and the rest na nagcommit sa POGI meet up...join na din kayo for this grand meet up! hehehe

POGI club ha... dapat kasama din tayo dyan. ahaha. Napatiming lang kaya napasama.


Volume, yes.

Clean headroom, debatable, but I think it can deliver depending on which amp.

Pics at tone report at GAS report pag gising mo bro..  :-D

One workaround for small wattage amps has been to mic the amp for bigger venues.

Bilhin na daw ni Pete lahat  :lol:

Madaming pondo si Mark haha. lumalaklak pa LOL.

kelan tone party? sa makati lang din office ko. lol!

Sayang, di ka na nareplyan nitong 2 to at busy sa tone(toma).  :lol: late na din ako nakarating haha. pagpunta mo sg ikaw naman VIP hehe  :razz:
no pic, no advise...

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« Reply #145 on: May 19, 2012, 11:58:22 AM »
May konting sukli ka pa paa sa budget mo he he.... ayaw mo ng mga lumang amp like the ones lumabas ng 80's or 90's? may nakikita ako minsan Fender Blues Jr. or Deville, maganda rin drive nun and ok din sa cleans.

Hahahaha!  Yeah, mau pang-inom pa kungsakali.  Pero ang laki pala ng HT40 ng Blackstar!  Nasubukan ko kina idol Mark kagabi.  Super bulky!  Hindi kaya ng mumunting bahay ko.   :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

Deville?!!!  Gusto ko yan!!!!   :-D  :-D  :-D

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« Reply #146 on: May 19, 2012, 12:01:26 PM »
my vote goes for the classic 30

Yan!  :cute:
(sorry, maka vintage na sound..)

I'm leaning towards it na nga...   :-D
Pero Supersonic pa din talaga first choice ko kung isasama nila sa MESS.  Hehehe...

Tone party report:
Oks na din yung Goldea pala!  Winner na din at sulit sa presyo!

At...  ANg bangis ni Mark at Kernel!!!  Kumanta na nga lang ako kasi hindi ko sila masabayan e!!!   :oops:  :oops:  :oops:




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« Reply #147 on: May 19, 2012, 12:06:46 PM »
Volume, yes.

Clean headroom, debatable, but I think it can deliver depending on which amp.

I'm planning to get a 2nd hand Goldea AT30 which sells 13k on sulit.com.ph once I sold/traded my pc.

What do you think about those amps bro?

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« Reply #148 on: May 19, 2012, 12:09:17 PM »
Classic 50 for the price of a new Classic 30 sa Sulit! http://sulit.com.ph/4559529  Check it out!  Tagal na rin nakapost nyan.  Hehehe.

Better to always have (power and headroom) and never need than to always need and never have.  Hehehe.

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« Reply #149 on: May 19, 2012, 12:15:12 PM »
Classic 50 for the price of a new Classic 30 sa Sulit! http://sulit.com.ph/4559529  Check it out!  Tagal na rin nakapost nyan.  Hehehe.

Better to always have (power and headroom) and never need than to always need and never have.  Hehehe.

Pete, good deal ito if ever it's in good condition. I suggest you check it out, bro!
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