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Offline modesmaster

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ANU MAS MAHIRAP ARALIN JAZZ OR CLASSICAL?
« on: June 01, 2012, 08:19:34 PM »
please share your opinions.. :)



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Re: ANU MAS MAHIRAP ARALIN JAZZ OR CLASSICAL?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2012, 08:54:04 PM »
parehas mahirap  :-D
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Re: ANU MAS MAHIRAP ARALIN JAZZ OR CLASSICAL?
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2012, 08:56:50 PM »
parehas mahirap  :-D

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OT: is classical the same as flamengco?
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Re: ANU MAS MAHIRAP ARALIN JAZZ OR CLASSICAL?
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2012, 10:46:37 PM »
+1

OT: is classical the same as flamengco?

It is flamenco; flamengo sounds like flamingo bird.

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Re: ANU MAS MAHIRAP ARALIN JAZZ OR CLASSICAL?
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2012, 02:42:15 PM »
please share your opinions.. :)

both. depende kasi yan sa pangunawa ng nag-aaral.  :)


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Re: ANU MAS MAHIRAP ARALIN JAZZ OR CLASSICAL?
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2012, 02:59:42 PM »
It depends on your technical and musical perspective. If you dig jazz, mas madali ito because of your interest in it and the same goes for classical..

So mag soul-search ka kung JAZZ o CLASSICAL ang preference mo musically.. after that, skies the limit for the technical stuff..  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2012, 03:58:43 PM »
ANU MAS MAHIRAP ARALIN JAZZ OR CLASSICAL?
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2012, 04:06:07 PM »
Mas mahirap ang classical sa "control" tsaka sa coordination ng both hands.
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Re: ANU MAS MAHIRAP ARALIN JAZZ OR CLASSICAL?
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2012, 03:35:46 PM »
In my opinion mas mahirap ang classical performance-wise. It requires a great amount of discipline. May napanood kasi ako sa youtube na chinese girl tinugtog nya ung caprice ni Paganini. Napa nganga ako sa galing. Kailangan kasi sakto ka timing. Kailangan kung ano nakasaad sa music piece ganun ang tirada mo. Di ka dapat nauuna o di ka dapat nahuhuli. Some pieces requires long finger stretches. While jazz naman kailangan alam mo ibat-ibang scales/chords, substitution/inversion. Kailangan mo naman ng feel and phrasing saka experimentation. Opinion lang naman.
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2012, 04:20:07 PM »
Mas mahirap ang classical sa "control" tsaka sa coordination ng both hands.

masmahirap tingnan ang avatar pic mo :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2012, 04:24:58 PM »
masmahirap tingnan ang avatar pic mo :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

True...para nanghihi-hypnotize.

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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2012, 04:34:15 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2012, 05:12:03 PM »
umm classical = structured

         jazz = free


that's what I think hehe, para sa'kin mas mahirap mag improvise kesa magbasa ng ready made piece, I'm not talking bout techniquie btw. just music.

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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2012, 05:20:21 PM »
Wala
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2012, 08:16:20 PM »
sa tingin ko mas mahirap ang classical.

bakit kamo? kelangan mong sundin yung eksaktong nota with the right attack, fingering, dynamics, etc. para maging maganda ang output.

sa jazz, as long as maganda ang tunog, ok ang choice of notes at maayos ang pag-sosolo mo oks na.
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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2012, 08:25:27 PM »
Mas madali ang classical, kasi madaming teacher.  Ang jazz, konti lang ang hirap humanap!!!  Hanggang ngayon wala pa ako nakikitang teacher, tapos pag meron naman marunong magturo, chord theory agad, tapos substitutions, haha mahirap maintindihan.

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« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2012, 10:10:06 PM »
sa tingin ko mas mahirap ang classical.

bakit kamo? kelangan mong sundin yung eksaktong nota with the right attack, fingering, dynamics, etc. para maging maganda ang output.

sa jazz, as long as maganda ang tunog, ok ang choice of notes at maayos ang pag-sosolo mo oks na.

Improv is but a small slice of the monster pizza of Jazz. Classical music has fugues, counterpoint, etc., Jazz has Contrafacts, altered chords, tritone substitution, etc. etc.

BTW, classical music has its own share of improvisations. Google some cadenzas and listen.
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« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2012, 10:18:38 PM »
^ ibig sabihin nyan eh bias lang talaga ako in favor of jazz.  :lol: :lol: :lol:

lagyan ng poll ang thread na ito.  :razz:
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« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2012, 10:29:48 PM »
jazz. kasi pag classical naaral naman un fundamentals. sa jazz eh di mo naman pwede pagaralan ung emotion.
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2012, 05:44:50 AM »
^ ibig sabihin nyan eh bias lang talaga ako in favor of jazz.  :lol: :lol: :lol:

lagyan ng poll ang thread na ito.  :razz:

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jazz. kasi pag classical naaral naman un fundamentals. sa jazz eh di mo naman pwede pagaralan ung emotion.

Clasical music has emotion too. Spend time to listen. You'd be surprised to see how classical pieces have more emotions compared to pop songs of today.
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Re: ANU MAS MAHIRAP ARALIN JAZZ OR CLASSICAL?
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2012, 01:03:49 PM »
Sinubukan ko classical dati...too much discipline for me. Nahirapan ako dahil di ko ma-express yung sarili ko dahil kailangan susundin mo yung piece. For example, gusto ko mag-apply ng vibrato sa isang note while ang nakalagay lang sa music sheet ay accent lang. Magkaiba yung dalawa.

Sa jazz, though you need theory, once you're in improv-mode, you can play at the spur of the moment.

IMHO. :)
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Re: ANU MAS MAHIRAP ARALIN JAZZ OR CLASSICAL?
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2012, 03:56:07 PM »
Mahirap pareho. But if your heart prefers one genre over the other, then that should be easier for you to learn...

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« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2012, 06:46:05 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2012, 07:51:14 PM »
Clasical music has emotion too.
I agree. but playing classical pieces live IMO, doesn't require much emotion as long as you know the piece.

tapos sa jazz naman kelangan ng malupit na expression. opinyon ko lang naman.
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« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2012, 03:23:58 AM »
I agree. but playing classical pieces live IMO, doesn't require much emotion as long as you know the piece.

tapos sa jazz naman kelangan ng malupit na expression. opinyon ko lang naman.

it is required to play with much emotion when playing classical music live. It is a lot more difficult to achieve this because you are bound by the piece you are playing whereas in Jazz you have all the freedom to choose the notes that will let you express better.

if a classical performance lacks emotion that would be similar to a piece played in MIDI.
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