audio interface for recording drums

[pualux]

hi boss, gusto ko itry mag record ng live drums pero, yung meron lang ako dito yung  2 ins lang. Nagsearch ako about drum micing with 2 mics, ok din pala kahit 2 mics lang. Pero kung sakali gusto ko mag expand to multiple mics, ano ba audio interface pwede gamitin na madaming inputs?

naisip ko mixer nalang bilhin tapos yung out saksak ko nalang sa current audio interface ko, kaso one track lang siya, di ko matetweak sa daw yung individual sounds....

ano ba interface na affordable pero madami nang inputs...

[KitC]

define affordable.

[bulok]

ako din naghahanap ng usb audio interface na may 2 mic xlr input para sa pagrerecord din ng drums..
ang pinagpaplanuhan ko yung alesis io2, steinberg ci1 at yung maudio mobilepre mkII... tight budget kasi around 8k-10k lang kaya ko para sa audio interface

[bulok]

ako din naghahanap ng usb audio interface na may 2 mic xlr input para sa pagrerecord din ng drums..
ang pinagpaplanuhan ko yung alesis io2 express, steinberg ci1 at yung maudio mobilepre mkII... tight budget kasi around 8k-10k lang kaya ko para sa audio interface

ano ba marerecomend ninyo mga sir?

[pmack]

may mga m-audio 2 channel interfaces na okay din. check mo sa JB sakto sale pa sila ngayon.

pero ang downside sa 2 channel interface dilemma is, what if ini the future gusto niyo mag-expand? no choice but to buy a new interface.

opinion ko lang, save up some more money para makabili ng at least 4 channel interface. opinion ko lang naman of course.

share ko lang experience ko, para maging "usable" yung drum recording, opinion ko lang bilang drummer at munting home recording hobbyist, kailangan at least 4 channels. 8 channels would be great, more than that would be awesome. i say "usable" in terms na kung gusto mo i-tweak yung drum tracks para subukang maging airplay quality. pero kung for personal use lang, 2 mics will do.

plus, sa 2 mic setup, sobrang lumalaki ang room factor sa pagrecord. of course kung maganda ang tunog ng kwarto mo with your drums in it, okay na okay yan. pero kung hindi, i feel na mahihirapan na hanapan ng mic placement wherein makukuha niyo ng buo ang low end ng kick drum/mids ng snare at toms and highs ng cymbals.

opinion ko lang naman.
this is coming from someone who started recording with soundblaster audigy's hehehe.

[bulok]

may mga m-audio 2 channel interfaces na okay din. check mo sa JB sakto sale pa sila ngayon.

pero ang downside sa 2 channel interface dilemma is, what if ini the future gusto niyo mag-expand? no choice but to buy a new interface.

opinion ko lang, save up some more money para makabili ng at least 4 channel interface. opinion ko lang naman of course.

share ko lang experience ko, para maging "usable" yung drum recording, opinion ko lang bilang drummer at munting home recording hobbyist, kailangan at least 4 channels. 8 channels would be great, more than that would be awesome. i say "usable" in terms na kung gusto mo i-tweak yung drum tracks para subukang maging airplay quality. pero kung for personal use lang, 2 mics will do.

plus, sa 2 mic setup, sobrang lumalaki ang room factor sa pagrecord. of course kung maganda ang tunog ng kwarto mo with your drums in it, okay na okay yan. pero kung hindi, i feel na mahihirapan na hanapan ng mic placement wherein makukuha niyo ng buo ang low end ng kick drum/mids ng snare at toms and highs ng cymbals.

opinion ko lang naman.
this is coming from someone who started recording with soundblaster audigy's hehehe.

ah.. salamat sir pmack! oo gusto ko nga din sana yung 4 mic input na interface e kaso ang problema wala naman akong pera sa ganoon kaya kung anung meron ako e pagtsa-tsagaan ko na lang muna
may mga nababasa kasi ako na negative comments sa m-audio kaya napapadalawang isip ako kahit na sale sa jb..
ung sa paglalagay naman ng mic, ang plano ko isa sa kick(condenser mic large diaphragm) tska isa sa overhead pero sa may likod ng drummer tapos makatutok sa gitna ng kit. yung room ko naman hindi sya ma-echo kaso "dead" na yung tunog siguro naman ok lang yun kaysa ma-echo?

[pualux]

define affordable.

yung di aabot ng 50k haha mas ok kung below 30k lol

actually di ko alam kung ano presyo ng mga ganyan na interface...

naisip ko yung roland octa capture nalang pagiipinuan, atleast 8 mic pres na tapos usb lang.....

wacha guys think?

di ko lang alam kung meron ang yupangco niyan, quad capture lang nakikita ko sa perfect pitch/yamaha eh

[jefisipbata]

eto bro

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/presonus-firestudio-project-recording-interface

di pa ko nakagamit ng ganyang unit, pero meron akong presonus audiobox (yung 2 channel) at sulit na sulit ako dun. baka less than 25K abutin nyan kung oorderin mo from online stores sa US (wag dito, masyadong malaki ang patong nila, 12,000 pesos yung $149 na audiobox)

[KitC]

yung di aabot ng 50k haha mas ok kung below 30k lol

The Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 costs P36,850 at JB, has 8 mic/line inputs and is firewire:

http://www.jbmusic.com.ph/product/details/focusrite-saffire-pro-40

There is also the M-audio Ultra 8r which costs 35k and is usb2:

http://www.jbmusic.com.ph/product/details/m-audio-fast-track-ultra-8r

Looking at the other offerings from JB and Yupangco, I see mostly 2 input interfaces at the less than 30k price range. Some purport to be 4 or 6 channels, but looking at the specs, these are like 2-in, 4-out interfaces.

[bulok]

may nakagamit na ba sa inyo ng m-audio mobile pre MKII at steinberg ci1?

[jcbska]

abang abang ka nalang bro ng 2nd hand dito sa forum, presonous fp10 decent 8 inputs audio interface or firestudio.

[mykelm03]

how about this Zoom R24 (680SGD) and Focusrite Scarlett 18i6 (550SGD)? check the sites the na lang for complete features. For the price eh 1SGD = 33Php... so think mas pasok sa budget mo... hehehehe

[el.sol]

im using a tascam US-1800 got it on sale @ 16k bnew. shipping included thru Johnny Air to Davao.

[child309]

Pag bumili bako ng dalawang ganito eh pwede na 8 channel input?

http://www.esi-audio.com/products/maya44usb+/


Kase USB naman sha so independent yung kada isa ganun ba yun?

[KitC]

Pag bumili bako ng dalawang ganito eh pwede na 8 channel input?

4 channel I/O lang, RCA pa. magdadagdag ka pa ng mic preamp.

[child309]

How about this?

Buy ako 2 pcs para 8 input na. Pwde pa phantom. Will that work?

Thanks

[Xelly]

How about this?

Buy ako 2 pcs para 8 input na. Pwde pa phantom. Will that work?

Thanks

Bro bili ka nalang ng isang 8-input interface talaga. Ang alam ko malilito yung PC kung dalawang audio interface gamit mo or papapiliin ka lang talaga ng PC ng isang interface na gamitin. PM sent bro.

[KitC]

Xelly is right although this problem is more apparent with asio than wdm. The worse part of using 2 audio interfaces is monitoring both at the same time. Then there is the slight drift in timing between the 2.

[jaakkoph]

Zoom R16 bro ok din plus pwede pa sya stand-alone recorder. Then pwede rin syang controller interface sa DAW mo. May effects and preamps na din. Sulit yun promise.

[Xelly]

Zoom R16 bro ok din plus pwede pa sya stand-alone recorder. Then pwede rin syang controller interface sa DAW mo. May effects and preamps na din. Sulit yun promise.

Mukhang promising nga yung R16. Lalu na siguro yung R24!!

[jaakkoph]

Mukhang promising nga yung R16. Lalu na siguro yung R24!!

Indeed sir. That's my workhorse sa studio. Ang difference lang ng R16 sa R24 is that the latter has drum loops/machine. Eh sa Reason \ako gumagawa ng loops so no point for me to get the R24. Medyo malaki din price difference eh.

[Xelly]

Indeed sir. That's my workhorse sa studio. Ang difference lang ng R16 sa R24 is that the latter has drum loops/machine. Eh sa Reason \ako gumagawa ng loops so no point for me to get the R24. Medyo malaki din price difference eh.

Seryoso bro yun lang? Maresearch nga.

[bulok]

sa audiophile ba may tascam products? magkano kaya ang tascam us600 usb audio interface at tascam us800? at sa mga nakagamit ng TASCAM US600 pwede ba malaman ang experience nyo sa paggamit nito tungkol sa mga issues at pag-troubleshoot sa problems kung meron man?

[nolit]

rarely can you get an audio interface na maraming preamped inputs. A lot of them are line level. SO if you are to record drums with 8 or more mics you would need a lot of mic pres. Especially those with phase switch and phantom for your overheads.

My suggestion is to get an interface with adat inputs. that way you can use an adat unit such as behringers ADA8000. And link a synch clock so you wont have to worry about it. You can not turn on the adat unit if you dont need to use in on some sessions.

In my experience, even tho I have a number of adats with mic pres, I still run specific preamps on specific mics, Especially on the snare top and bottom, hihat, kick and overheads. I have to run them to specialized hardware before feeding them to the line in of the adat unit.

hope this helps.

[bulok]

rarely can you get an audio interface na maraming preamped inputs. A lot of them are line level. SO if you are to record drums with 8 or more mics you would need a lot of mic pres. Especially those with phase switch and phantom for your overheads.

My suggestion is to get an interface with adat inputs. that way you can use an adat unit such as behringers ADA8000. And link a synch clock so you wont have to worry about it. You can not turn on the adat unit if you dont need to use in on some sessions.

In my experience, even tho I have a number of adats with mic pres, I still run specific preamps on specific mics, Especially on the snare top and bottom, hihat, kick and overheads. I have to run them to specialized hardware before feeding them to the line in of the adat unit.

hope this helps.

salamat!