Author Topic: converting floor tom to bass drum (Read 21292 times)

legnacilyz · « **Reply #25 on:** November 28, 2006, 07:50:12 AM »

sa wakas, natapos ko naren kahapon yung FT->BD ko... mei pics na, pero eto pa lang yung "before" na mga pics.. wala pa yung Pearl JG-16 adapter..

eto yung ginawa kong adapter kuno.. para mei mapagpatungan lang nung hindi pa ako nakakabili ng JG-16

hehehe.. ihahabol ko yung pics nung kumpleto na siya..

hindi ko ginamit yung paa nung nakasama sa JG-16 package.. bumili talaga ako ng separate na spurs.. Gibraltar tatak.. ayos naman yung tunog.. punchy paren.. compare to our 22" bass drum.. mas solid yung tunog na "tig" and a little woofing low end.. it has it's limit though.. malakas siya tumunog.. pero once natabunan na siya ng high frequencies, the woof is not that obvious nah.. pero fat punch niya, andun paren.. (hindi naka mic) tamang tama lang sa ensemble.. hehehe..

cheers!!!

peeves24 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 28, 2006, 01:56:25 PM »

great idea!

may suggestion ako. hanap ka ng small piece ng 1/4" thick na plywood tapos screw mo yun dun sa bottom tom mount (na ginawa mong riser) para maging tenga sya para may kapitan yung bass drum pedal

astig yan

legnacilyz · « **Reply #27 on:** November 28, 2006, 11:21:25 PM »

thanks kuya peeves! yun yung sukat ng plywood na hinahanap ko! pero now, naka-attach na yung JG-16... siguro, gagamitan ko na ng plywood yung next na FT->BD conversion ko! para nde ako gumastos ng mahal! hehehe..

cheers!!!

killuaxp · « **Reply #28 on:** November 30, 2006, 02:10:14 AM »

aus ah! now nakakita na din ako sa wakas ng ft to bd convertion. hehehe! dati ko pa gusto makakita nun eh.

jun_BALARAW · « **Reply #29 on:** November 30, 2006, 08:16:40 AM »

yung reso head ba binutasan mo din??

legnacilyz · « **Reply #30 on:** December 01, 2006, 05:03:50 PM »

kuya jun, hindi ko na binutasan, mahirap na, baka hindi ko ma-achieve yung gusto kong tunog..

cheers!!!

bone · « **Reply #31 on:** January 10, 2007, 06:44:24 PM »

Quote from: legnacilyz on November 28, 2006, 07:50:12 AM

sa wakas, natapos ko naren kahapon yung FT->BD ko... mei pics na, pero eto pa lang yung "before" na mga pics.. wala pa yung Pearl JG-16 adapter..

eto yung ginawa kong adapter kuno.. para mei mapagpatungan lang nung hindi pa ako nakakabili ng JG-16

hehehe.. ihahabol ko yung pics nung kumpleto na siya..

hindi ko ginamit yung paa nung nakasama sa JG-16 package.. bumili talaga ako ng separate na spurs.. Gibraltar tatak.. ayos naman yung tunog.. punchy paren.. compare to our 22" bass drum.. mas solid yung tunog na "tig" and a little woofing low end.. it has it's limit though.. malakas siya tumunog.. pero once natabunan na siya ng high frequencies, the woof is not that obvious nah.. pero fat punch niya, andun paren.. (hindi naka mic) tamang tama lang sa ensemble.. hehehe..

cheers!!!

gud day sir.
ok ba yun converted Floor Tom to Bass Drum pang acoustic? I'm a drummer but my new band is an acoustic one and gusto ng kabanda ko cajon ang gamitin ko. medyo boring for me. how about using this FT/BD with snare using brush stick? ok na naman siguro for acoustic. what can you say?

thank you very much.

bone · « **Reply #32 on:** January 10, 2007, 06:46:02 PM »

Quote from: bone on January 10, 2007, 06:44:24 PM

Quote from: legnacilyz on November 28, 2006, 07:50:12 AM
sa wakas, natapos ko naren kahapon yung FT->BD ko... mei pics na, pero eto pa lang yung "before" na mga pics.. wala pa yung Pearl JG-16 adapter..

eto yung ginawa kong adapter kuno.. para mei mapagpatungan lang nung hindi pa ako nakakabili ng JG-16

hehehe.. ihahabol ko yung pics nung kumpleto na siya..

hindi ko ginamit yung paa nung nakasama sa JG-16 package.. bumili talaga ako ng separate na spurs.. Gibraltar tatak.. ayos naman yung tunog.. punchy paren.. compare to our 22" bass drum.. mas solid yung tunog na "tig" and a little woofing low end.. it has it's limit though.. malakas siya tumunog.. pero once natabunan na siya ng high frequencies, the woof is not that obvious nah.. pero fat punch niya, andun paren.. (hindi naka mic) tamang tama lang sa ensemble.. hehehe..

cheers!!!
gud day sir.
ok ba yun converted Floor Tom to Bass Drum pang acoustic? I'm a drummer but my new band is an acoustic one and gusto ng kabanda ko cajon ang gamitin ko. medyo boring for me. how about using this FT/BD with snare using brush stick? ok na naman siguro for acoustic. what can you say?

thank you very much.

jpmb · « **Reply #33 on:** January 11, 2007, 10:14:19 AM »

thats a nice idea bone, using a small drum set up instead of cajon, i suggest you use rute sticks and splash cymbals as well

legnacilyz · « **Reply #34 on:** January 14, 2007, 07:34:01 AM »

sir bone, tama si sir JP! pwedeng snare and a converted BD ang setup mo.. ganun din naiisip ko incase na mag akustik kame.. kasi im bored or i can't play with just kahon (no offense to cajon user ha!).. it's just me.. hehe.. one band i know that uses that setup is the "U-Turn" band.. converted BD, snare, chimes, Splash cymbal?, and a shaker for ostinato beats..

cheers!!!

intake · « **Reply #35 on:** January 14, 2007, 09:33:44 AM »

may nakita akong acoustic band...imbis na converted bass drum ang gamit...cajon ang ginawa niyang bass drum..cajon with a pedal

nilagyan na lang niya ng plastic mat yung head for reinforcement

bone · « **Reply #36 on:** January 14, 2007, 10:28:36 AM »

what batter head should i use? 16" remo pinstripe or remo single layer head?
sa reso head also, ano dapat gamitin?

thank you very much

demet · « **Reply #37 on:** January 17, 2007, 04:48:54 PM »

I'm a guitar player who's interested in learning to play drums. Other than budget reasons, I don't think I'm ready for a full setup. I've been thinking of this in my head. Here are my questions:

1. How can I convert a floor tom in to a kick drum?
- how do I convert the pedal to hit the skin upwards and how do I attach that?
- how if I put pillows/teddy bears/whatever inside, if I leave the tom standing, will it still sound like a floor tom? If not, how different will the sound be?

2. How do I attach a high tom to a floor tom?
- basically, I'm thinking of something similar to a coktail drum setup but instead of standing, I want to be seated.

3. How much do you think this will cost?

Thanks in advance brethren.

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suspendead · « **Reply #38 on:** January 17, 2007, 04:58:55 PM »

I believe there is one thread about converting a floor tom into a bass drum, try searching on the past threads here bro. Happy Drumming,...

demet · « **Reply #39 on:** January 17, 2007, 05:10:29 PM »

will do...thanks

peeves24 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 17, 2007, 05:17:40 PM »

1. How can I convert a floor tom in to a kick drum?
see thread somewhere
- how do I convert the pedal to hit the skin upwards and how do I attach that?
chain-sprocket pedals will do. check first if the sprocket of the pedal can be removed. then just reverse the position of the sprocket though you might need a longer chain. the procedure will work on the lower end gibraltar pedals and most high end pedals. some of the cheap pedals from lazer cannot be converted as per their design ie direct drive pedals
- how if I put pillows/teddy bears/whatever inside, if I leave the tom standing, will it still sound like a floor tom? If not, how different will the sound be?
puff puff puff (dead)
2. How do I attach a high tom to a floor tom?
floor tom legs are too flimsy to add more weight. best solution would be to use a stand and clamp for the high tom or put the high tom on another snare stand
- basically, I'm thinking of something similar to a coktail drum setup but instead of standing, I want to be seated.
playing the pedal will be a challenge since your knee might hit the floor tom

3. How much do you think this will cost?
more than you expect, buy a 2nd hand kit or get brand new instead (worth 10k will do)

demet · « **Reply #41 on:** January 17, 2007, 05:18:56 PM »

mga sir, gitarista po ako na interesado lumaro ng drums. I have some considerations though...first budget, next space, 3rd, limited needs really(mejo mala Questlove ng the roots lang ang habol ko gawin).

If you're wondering why I'm posting it in this thread, it's mainly because of the floor tom to kick drum conversion. Ang ganda nung suggestions niyo about the jungle kit style. Pero may paraan po bang mag-MOD ng floor tom na parang sa cocktail drum set? if so, ano ang kelangan gawin? may idea kayo kung magkano?

Also, mas maganda bang i-attach yung high toms sa "converted floor tom kcik drum"? or sa cymbals na lang? or dapat ba i-attach nalang lahat sa buong unit?

here are some pics to help you.

and another one:

bone · « **Reply #42 on:** January 18, 2007, 12:14:05 AM »

wwooow. hanep!

sana nakita ko agad tong set up nato.

legnacilyz · « **Reply #43 on:** January 18, 2007, 07:44:03 AM »

@bone, sir, i use pinstripe 16" floor tom head.. at yung reso is stock head ng FT.. just wanted to share this.. im having problems right now with my converted BD.. nakukuha ko naman yung gusto kong tunog.. thump with a little boom.. kasi ensemble nga ang band ko kaya kelangan mejo mei konting power.. not just "tig" sound.. pero one thing that irritates me, i cant mush the beater to head.. well, not that too much mush.. just like sitting it there for a while.. every single stroke tapos mejo imumush ko yung beater, nagbbounce siya.. kaya, imbis na defined sound na "tig" lang, ngging "tig-rr" kainis.. i know na lagyan ng pillow ang loob at sa batter side.. pero how can i achieve the feel and sound that i want without mufflings? i want that thump, not to much vibe on the batter head so i can lay my beater there without bouncing, but still retaining a boom? UNMUFFLED (possible kaya?)

Or isang dahilan ren na maliit ang drum shell kaya, nde ko tlga maachieve yung feel na gusto ko pag nde ko ginamitan ng muffling? or dahil walang butas reso head ko? hay.. Or i just have to discipline my foot that on every stroke, angat beater kagad? hehehe.. kakaiba..

cheers guys!!!

peeves24 · « **Reply #44 on:** January 18, 2007, 08:23:02 AM »

Quote from: legnacilyz on January 18, 2007, 07:44:03 AM

Or isang dahilan ren na maliit ang drum shell kaya, nde ko tlga maachieve yung feel na gusto ko pag nde ko ginamitan ng muffling? or dahil walang butas reso head ko? hay.. Or i just have to discipline my foot that on every stroke, angat beater kagad? hehehe.. kakaiba..

pre suggestion din ni sandy sa kin yan, always keep the beater off the head. ang laki ng difference sa tunog if done properly.

sayang kung may 18" floor toms lang, yun na lang gawin nyong bass drum. sa 2" difference nila in diameter pero bass drum na yung feel ng 18" at di mo na kailangan gumamit ng superdooper foot technique para mapatunog ng maayos

legnacilyz · « **Reply #45 on:** January 18, 2007, 09:43:25 AM »

Yay! thnanks kuya pao sa reply! hehehe gulong gulo na talaga ako kahapon e.. sumakit ulo ko.. so shell size really matters.. kasi kahit super loose na yung head, mei bounce paren.. hehehe.. maybe i have no choice para maachieve ko yung feel kundi lagyan ng muffling tlga.. unang muffling nun is just a patch of hanky, still not enough.. hehehe..

About sa foot naman.. keeping the beater off after a stroke is a good practice din eh?

isa ren yan sa naka confuse saken kasi most drummers na nakikita ko eh nagmmush ng beater sa batter head.. and bcoz of that, i thot na baka mei disadvantage ang "beater off after a stroke" kaya mas maraming nagmmush.. hehehe..

one good example ng drummer na hindi nagmmush is Simon Philips.. naobserve ko sa lumang videos niya.. playing "V8" and "Cosmos"

cheers!!

feed_back · « **Reply #46 on:** October 31, 2007, 06:24:42 PM »

mga bro help naman saan ba nakakahanap ng adaptor para magamit kong bassdrum yung 16 side drum ko

intake · « **Reply #47 on:** November 01, 2007, 11:54:46 AM »

yung pagstay ng beater sa bass drum head? sa opinyon ko personal preference na din yan, kung gusto mo ng solid talaga na tunog edi heel down..kung gusto mo naman pakantahin yung bass drum, alisin mo kagad yung beater... napansin ko to kasi dati natugtog ako sa pep squad, may effect nga

butikingpalo · « **Reply #48 on:** December 09, 2007, 12:26:33 AM »

I need this... Hirap magtransport ng sariling drums lalo na kapag madaming hardware. Gusto ko Sana 3PC lang eh. Gagawin ko na lang Bass drum yung floor tom ko. Hehe. Saan po nakakabili at magkano aabutin?

PEARL JG-16 JUNGLE SET ADAPTER and PEARL IS-1216N ISS TOM HALTE SYSTEM or any alternative dun sa ISS. Salamat po! 09278315777

phfreq · « **Reply #49 on:** December 09, 2007, 01:14:34 AM »

Quote from: butikingpalo on December 09, 2007, 12:26:33 AM

I need this... Hirap magtransport ng sariling drums lalo na kapag madaming hardware. Gusto ko Sana 3PC lang eh. Gagawin ko na lang Bass drum yung floor tom ko. Hehe. Saan po nakakabili at magkano aabutin?

PEARL JG-16 JUNGLE SET ADAPTER and PEARL IS-1216N ISS TOM HALTE SYSTEM or any alternative dun sa ISS. Salamat po! 09278315777

naalala ko ung ginawa ni peeves... basically, yung floor tom nya, nakatayo pa rin pero ung pedal beater, binaliktad nya..

reply #16 dito sa 4 piece army thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,52567.0.html

at least ayan, may bass drum ka na, may floor tom ka pa

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Author Topic: converting floor tom to bass drum (Read 21292 times)