GUITAR PEDAL NOISES!

[fvckn.deathwish]

ang 9V adapter ko kasi is:

CANNON
model: AM-878S
multiple AC-DC adaptor
input: AC 220 60 Hz
output Voltage: 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,12
Output current: 1800mA

tas sa isang pedal lang yan kasi may extra akong isa para sa isa,
nagsisimua palang ako kaya wala pa akong daisy chain..

iba ba yung ADAPTER sa PSU?
salamat!

[Gerrit]

I think, este hindi pala dapat 'I think' dapat pala eh, baligtad ang pedal loop mo.  Ang distortion or other dirt pedal talagang maingay kaya dapat ang loop mo is

Guitar => volume pedal/wah => compressor/limiter (if you have) => preamp (if you have) => OD/distortion/fuzz/metal => noise gate/suppresor => modulation pedals (chorus/reverb/delay/harmonist) => amp

Kapag nilagay mo ang noise gate/suppresor mo before any dirt pedal wala siyang mapi-filter kundi ang guitar mo. Lahat ng hum mo pasok din sa modulation pedals mo.  Kung may harmonist ka pati hum mo i-haharmonize niya at masakit sa tenga yun.  Kahit itodo mo pa ang gain mo then icontrol mo ang noise gate after the dirt pedal wag naman sobra ang control kasi macocompromise ang sustain mo.  Maniwala ka sa akin kasi tested ko na yan both sa analogs ko at multi effects.  You can youtube MALSTEEM BOSS NOISE SUPPRESOR para makita mo kung paano ang connection na ginawa niya.

[fvckn.deathwish]

ahhh. salamat po! may natutunan po ako! hehehe

btw. about sa power supply,
okay lang ba na mataas ang current na binibigay ng adapter ko? kasi, it gives 1800mA to only one pedal e..
okay lang ba yun?

[Gerrit]

ahhh. salamat po! may natutunan po ako! hehehe

btw. about sa power supply,
okay lang ba na mataas ang current na binibigay ng adapter ko? kasi, it gives 1800mA to only one pedal e..
okay lang ba yun?

Okay lang yun basta regulated.  Meaning straight 9 volts lang siya hindi yung universal or converter type na adaptor.

[fvckn.deathwish]

Okay lang yun basta regulated.  Meaning straight 9 volts lang siya hindi yung universal or converter type na adaptor.

yung akin kasi is may mga settings ng output Volyage, pero feeling ko ayos naman siya kasi di ko naman binili to sa tabi2 lang?

[Gerrit]

yung akin kasi is may mga settings ng output Volyage, pero feeling ko ayos naman siya kasi di ko naman binili to sa tabi2 lang?

Okay lang din yan bro.  Kaya lang minsan nagloloko yung selector o yung unit mismo. Basta i-fix mo lang siya sa 9 volts at huwag mo nang gagamitin sa iba.

[fvckn.deathwish]

salamat dre! then sa tingin ko, wala namang problema sa adapter ko!
thanks ulit bro! hehehe.
and keep it up!

[Gerrit]

Saka yung 1800a mo hindi siya current.  Kasi ang  isang pedal may average needs na 300 amperes. So meaning, yung adaptor mo pwede sa hanggang 5 pedals na lang para may allowance pa, na hindi namamatay kapag i-engage mo ng saby-sabay.

[Musikerochan]

yun din yun. power supply unit. power adaptor/adapter. AC adaptor. ang basehan mo diyan eh kung ano yung output, DC (direct current) ba or AC (alternating current)? for most pedals, ang kailangan natin ay DC (although hindi lagi, particularly digital multis like the Digitech RP250 for example which needs an AC output, but that's another story).

yung mga adaptors na DC usually ganito ang symbol to indicate na DC ang output nya:



yung AC naman



yung mga saksakan sa bahay, that is AC, and wala itong polarity. what an adaptor does is it drops the voltage (yung mga common wall warts). AC output pa rin yun. pero in the case of most appliance-intended adaptors, that lowered AC output is RECTIFIED (turned into DC/direct current), where it has a polarity na (negative-positive, or hot-common). so kita mo DC na diba, so pwede na ba sa pedals ito, assuming na tama naman ang indicated voltage and polarity? pwede. ganito lang naman kadalasan yung mga mumurahing adaptor sa market. may filtering capacitors na din ito kahit papano.

im betting your PSU/adaptor isnt regulated. has selectable voltage yan di ba? yung mga usual power adaptors na ganyan dehins regulated eh. the Cannon adaptor i used for an RP250 (modified, simply tapped the AC output) isnt regulated as well.

ang problema eh hindi ito well-regulated. for some reason, some power adaptors have poor regulation na hindi perfect DC ang nage-generate mula sa rectified power. couple that with the Philippines's way of wiring electrical connection (the lack of a third prong for grounding/earthing), you have a recipe for a noisy signal. need a real-life example? try touching the ground (lupa) or metal surfaces connected to the earth next time you engage your distortion.

kahit anong lagay mo pa ng noisegate dyan, band-aid solution pa rin yan IMO. the (not so) secret to noise reduction is a combination of proper rectification, filtering, regulation and grounding/earthing, among others.

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yang 1800mA mo eh sobra-sobra ang supply para sa isang pedal lang. kahit pa siguro 20 units na DS-1 kaya nyan i-power.

[tulo]

I disagree. For me noise gates without loops should be first in the chain.

yan oh sa option 1 nasa last chain sya.

[FollowTheReaper]

yan oh sa option 1 nasa last chain sya.

It is also accepted. But it doesn't tell us if it is for HIGH GAIN applications or not.

The suggestion that I gave is to address the concern of the TS which involves a high gain pedal.

Again, there is no right or wrong. It is my opinion and I am entitled to disagree with yours. It is up to the TS to follow which suggestion he thinks is best.

[fvckn.deathwish]

maybe youre right, test ko muna which is the best setup.

[IncX]

di kaya single coils PUPs mo?

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maingay talaga ang hi-gain pedals. pero kung naka zero nga naman volume mo napos may "shhhhhhh" sound, baka nga power supply, cables or yung outlet na sinasaksak mo ng power supply (maingay yun especially kung may PC din nakasaksak)

[fvckn.deathwish]

di kaya single coils PUPs mo?

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maingay talaga ang hi-gain pedals. pero kung naka zero nga naman volume mo napos may "shhhhhhh" sound, baka nga power supply, cables or yung outlet na sinasaksak mo ng power supply (maingay yun especially kung may PC din nakasaksak)

humbucker po..

pero may ugong lang pag tinataasan ko yung gain e...
kulang kase gain qng mababa...
if power supply, ang palagay ko is may noise padin kahit nakaZERO yung GAIN..
kaso pag nakaZERO yung GAIN, wala syang ugong eh...

[FollowTheReaper]

if power supply, ang palagay ko is may noise padin kahit nakaZERO yung GAIN..
kaso pag nakaZERO yung GAIN, wala syang ugong eh...

Not necessarily. It could be possible that there is still noise present but is not audible when you turn the gain to zero.

[rtf_axeman]

humbucker po..

pero may ugong lang pag tinataasan ko yung gain e...
kulang kase gain qng mababa...
if power supply, ang palagay ko is may noise padin kahit nakaZERO yung GAIN..
kaso pag nakaZERO yung GAIN, wala syang ugong eh...

active ba?

[Musikerochan]

antimano may noise na yang setup mo kahit hindi pa naka-engage yang distortion pedal. when you amplify>compress that input signal na MAY KAUNTING NOISE, pag nagtaas ka ng gain maririnig talaga yan. pretty normal. pero kung hindi nga regulated ang power supply mo, isa pa yang culprit. basahin mo kasi mga posts ko.

[KASALANAN]

depenede sa noise gate mo, may mga noise gate na halos walang pinag iba ang quality ng distortion pag naka activate noise gate. for example ang ZOOM NOISE REDUCTION Zoom Noise Reduction (ZNR) was developed specifically for guitar. While keeping any alteration of the original sound to an absolute minimum, ZNR shuts out unwanted noise in the playing pauses. Even the tails of long sustain notes come out beautifully, with natural release. Additional flexibility is provided by two noise gates. The vintage type DIRTY GATE is a great match for fuzz sounds, while the high-speed muting of the GATE setting brings heavy riffs into clear focus..

wala naman noise ang gitara mo kaya dapat after joyo talaga yan.

sorry beg to differ bro. owned a G2.1u and a Zoom G3 before, the ZNR does a good job on eliminating unwanted noise PERO ramdam na ramdam ko yun tone loss pagnaka engage siya, parang hindi full yun tunog mo at may kulang pagnaka engage siya

[rtf_axeman]

uulitin ko, talagang maingay ang Joyo extreme Metal bro.

[tulo]

sorry beg to differ bro. owned a G2.1u and a Zoom G3 before, the ZNR does a good job on eliminating unwanted noise PERO ramdam na ramdam ko yun tone loss pagnaka engage siya, parang hindi full yun tunog mo at may kulang pagnaka engage siya

baka naman tinudo mo, tone loss talaga yan. Hindi naman talga dapat mawala ang noise, mabawasan lang. For me ZNR is the best of all the multifx I've owned.

[KASALANAN]

baka naman tinudo mo, tone loss talaga yan. Hindi naman talga dapat mawala ang noise, mabawasan lang. For me ZNR is the best of all the multifx I've owned.

hehe hindi bro useless pagtinodo kung onting tweak lang nawawala na yun noise di ba? preference lang siguro talaga sa noise gate dunno baka na-OC lang ako, something doesnt seem right paggumagamet ako ng noise gate

[walanakamingyelo]

sakin mga ser. chain ko is

behringer super fuzz> Joyo extreme metal > Line 6 uber metal > Joyo Ultimate drive > Eq na Artec

Tanggpa ko naman na may noise yun pero ok lang hindi ko magets yung sinasabi ni sir musikerochan about sa proper grounding kasi wala naman akong inalter sa mga pedal at wire bukod sa palit ng kulay ng LED naka One spot naman ako so panu yun? o baka sadyang maingay lang talaga yung joyo extreme kasi pag ginagamit ko yun eq lang binubuksan ko eh sinasamahan ko lang ng fuzz para sa stoner riffs pero bukod dun yun lang hehehehe

[fvckn.deathwish]

active ba?

passive pong humbucker

[fvckn.deathwish]

sakin mga ser. chain ko is

behringer super fuzz> Joyo extreme metal > Line 6 uber metal > Joyo Ultimate drive > Eq na Artec

pre, wala kang noise reduction o noise gate?

[fvckn.deathwish]

pre , isa pa palang prob..

guitar > NR100 > ExtremeMetal > amp  =  maingay pag naka standby (may ugong )

guitar > ExtremeMetal > NR100 > amp  =   kaso ,di ko makuha timpla ng level ng treshold..

      pag 12oclock, laging filter, makikita mo naman yun sa led sa far right side, kasi laging nakaON

pero pag mjo binawasan ko, pag nagnagfefret ako sa higher strings, nafifilter padin

pag binawasan ko pa, wala na, ang ingay na ulit, di na mafilter.

nagets nyo po ba?

kasi ang Behringer NR100 , pag nakaON yung light sa farRightside, means, finiFilter nya, at pag nakaOFF, hindi, para to mapanatili yung Tone ng sound,

, ang work nya is finifilter pag mahina yung tunog, at hindi yung malakas, so pag nakaStandby, finifilter  nea kasi ang nadidinig lng nmn don is yung mahinang buzz ng strings.
pero pag ginamit mo, prang madidisEngage yung filter para yung tone is ganon padin.. db?

am i right?