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Offline sanchai

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Christian buyers at classifieds
« on: August 05, 2013, 12:36:59 PM »
What's your take on christian buyers at classifieds, (or they just say they are christian)...be it here at philmusic, sulit, fb etc...
that uses the line "bro, sa church naman gagamitin baka pwede...then they lowball"  ....
or" if they are selling " church used...at a higher price"...
or worst case..selling items that are way to far from their description...(mas pangit)


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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2013, 12:54:17 PM »
What's your take on christian buyers at classifieds, (or they just say they are christian)...be it here at philmusic, sulit, fb etc...
that uses the line "bro, sa church naman gagamitin baka pwede...then they lowball"  ....
or" if they are selling " church used...at a higher price"...
or worst case..selling items that are way to far from their description...(mas pangit)

Well para sakin lang naman yep may mali nga jan. First is bilang isang
gitarista sa aking simbahan, kahit naman paano eh PERSONAL na gamit
ko pa din yun. Ako makikinabang na di hamak kumpara sa talagang gamit
na sarili na pang simbahan. Yun ang akin lang naman. So dapat iwasan yang
linya na yan kung pang PERSONAL na gamit.

Pero subalit datapwat, kung official na gamit ng simbahan at gagamitin naman
talaga sa gawaing pang simbahan lamang eh siguro puwede ikunsidera
pero wag lang magmalabis.

Sa pagbenta naman. Parang reference niya yun ng paggamit. Nasa buyer
na lang siguro kung pano niya yun iintindihin. Pero mas maganda pa din na
subukan muna bago bilhin. At ang mahalaga di hamak na mas mababa sa
brandnew(depende sa uri ng gamit). at siyempre maayos puwede ka naman umayaw
kapag tingin mo may mali diba?!.

yun lang naman eh opinion ko.
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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2013, 09:38:15 PM »
For me, hindi maganda yung gagamitin yung term na 'gagamitin sa church' or 'sa church lang ginamit' just to get a discount or sell it in a higher price... kasi kung talagang fair naman yung selling/buying nang item.. no need to sugar coat it right? Huwag nang idamay ang kahit anong church..

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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2013, 12:19:34 PM »
Ako I use "Ginamit lang yan sa Church". Ibig sabihin one a week lang ginagamit kaya 'di bugbog ang item.

Kung personal ang item ibang usapan na  :-o
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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2013, 01:20:51 PM »
What's your take on christian buyers at classifieds, (or they just say they are christian)...be it here at philmusic, sulit, fb etc...
that uses the line "bro, sa church naman gagamitin baka pwede...then they lowball"  ....

I don't get offended when customers use that line on me. What bothers me is if they pocket the discount and don't pass the savings to the church!  <_<
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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2013, 02:37:47 PM »
I don't get offended when customers use that line on me. What bothers me is if they pocket the discount and don't pass the savings to the church!  <_<

+1  :-( so wrong
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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2013, 08:05:19 PM »
sometimes it pisses me off... kukulitin ka na pwede ibigay sa gusto nila na price kasi sa church gagamitin...
I mean, pwede ka naman tumawad ng hindi na gagamitin yung salita na "church"...
I never do that...

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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2013, 10:21:55 PM »
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sometimes it pisses me off... kukulitin ka na pwede ibigay sa gusto nila na price kasi sa church gagamitin...
I mean, pwede ka naman tumawad ng hindi na gagamitin yung salita na "church"...
I never do that...

Ginagawa bang sangkalan ang CHURCH nila para makuha ang gusto at pigain ka, at para di ka makatanggi? LOLS  hmmmm MALI na yan.... gawa ka ng KARATULA eto ilagay mo para mahiya-hiya naman kahit Leader nila...

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meaning: Dapat hindi ikaw ang magdikta sa presyong gusto mo... hintayin mo na ibigay yun sayo ng kusa at maluwag sa loob nya... hindi yung ibibigay sayo dahil pinipilit mo...  eh nakuha mo nga yung gusto mo kasi napilit mo, pinighati mo naman yung kapwa mo kasi  nilugi mo nag abuno pa... edi nagkasala kapa....
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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2013, 11:28:31 PM »
Ako I use "Ginamit lang yan sa Church". Ibig sabihin one a week lang ginagamit kaya 'di bugbog ang item.

Kung personal ang item ibang usapan na  :-o

Baligtad ang impression ko. Ang dating sa akin is "ginamit ito sa church... ng kung sinu sino kasi for common use, at hindi inalagaan kasi hindi naman sa kanila, tapos nakatambak lang sa office ng wala man lang precautions."
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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2013, 11:37:53 PM »
Baligtad ang impression ko. Ang dating sa akin is "ginamit ito sa church... ng kung sinu sino kasi for common use, at hindi inalagaan kasi hindi naman sa kanila, tapos nakatambak lang sa office ng wala man lang precautions."

i can relate. +1
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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2013, 11:49:10 PM »
Tama rin. Sa ibang Church kasi kahit sino pwedeng gumamit. Sa amin medyo mahigpit sa gamit at maingat.

Ako mas gusto ko na sa taga Church mapunta ang gamit ko. Gusto ko kasing makita ulit ang gamit  :-D
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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2013, 12:01:31 AM »
Tama rin. Sa ibang Church kasi kahit sino pwedeng gumamit. Sa amin medyo mahigpit sa gamit at maingat.


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 particular din ako (as overseer ng mga instruments) na di basta kung sino ang gumagamit ng mga instruments at well kept. dapat good stewards...
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2013, 12:48:24 AM »
kaya ako sarili o personal ang ginagamit ko, ayokong manghiram, ayoko din magpahiram sa hindi marunong gmamit, o hindi maingat, at halatang gusto lang alam niyo na....
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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2013, 05:46:26 AM »
thanks sa insights..

nakaka-irita kasi minsan yung kukulitin ka sa mababang presyo kasi daw sa church gagamitin...mind you, hindi church ang bibili ha  :-D
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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2013, 06:13:59 AM »
thanks sa insights..

nakaka-irita kasi minsan yung kukulitin ka sa mababang presyo kasi daw sa church gagamitin...mind you, hindi church ang bibili ha  :-D

wag mo na lang pansinin after mo sagutin sa una kunyari "fixed na po sorry.",
mapapagod din naman yan. 'di ka pa nagkasala sa isip. hehehehe  :lol:
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2013, 08:31:40 AM »
I don't get offended when someone tells me it's for the church. I am even happy to help out with a discount as much as possible.
If you use the term "gagamitin sa church" but your main intention is to lowball the item your buying, who then is your god? As far as I know, God owns everything on earth, all the riches... Phi 4:19. Don't tell me na "Barat"  ang god mo and he can't afford the item your church needs. (which practically is what YOU need"  <_< )

But if you can't get the item your local church really needs, it's simple, it's not His will  :)

I remember a guy asking me for a discount for my gigbags (and i did),,, but when we met, I noticed how easy it was for him na magmura, (although it was some sort of an expression, jeez it made me regret lowering my price  :-( )
Deuteronomy 8:18 "But remember the LORD your God, for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth, and so confirms His covenant, which he swore to your ancestors, as it is today."

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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2013, 02:45:32 PM »
What's your take on christian buyers at classifieds, (or they just say they are christian)...be it here at philmusic, sulit, fb etc...
that uses the line "bro, sa church naman gagamitin baka pwede...then they lowball"  ....

My impression kapag buying tapos gagamitin naman daw sa church, is that "WTF reverse nga dapat eh!". Kapag church ang bibili, ibig sabihin people are contributing funds collectively, therefore mas maraming pera compared to individuals. I hear churches buying brand new in stores (mas mahal) more than second hand (cheaper). Why sell it cheaper to them? Can't relate naman ako sa aktibidades nila eh.

Kaya, my initial instinct kapag naririnig ko na gagamitin sa church ang bibilhin sa akin, is to jack up the price! Initial instinct lang naman. Fair pricing pa rin ang ending.
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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2013, 01:31:22 PM »
Hi Bro, Musta? Ako naman when purchasing an item, mas preferred ko kung Christian yung owner. My reason would be - 1. Most of the time di abused yung item, 2. Truthful yung owner kung me issues man, 3. There are times that me additional discount (may it be sa item or sa location ng meetup). Aaminin ko din na I use the line "gagamitin sa church" when purchasing an item since as mentioned, Christian naman din yung kausap ko and sa Church naman talaga gagamitin so case to case din.

Pero pag non-believer naman ang ka-deal ko, I seldom use the term "Church" since naaabuso na nga... HTH

sometimes it pisses me off... kukulitin ka na pwede ibigay sa gusto nila na price kasi sa church gagamitin...
I mean, pwede ka naman tumawad ng hindi na gagamitin yung salita na "church"...
I never do that...
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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2013, 08:08:15 PM »
Hi Bro, Musta? Ako naman when purchasing an item, mas preferred ko kung Christian yung owner. My reason would be - 1. Most of the time di abused yung item, 2. Truthful yung owner kung me issues man, 3. There are times that me additional discount (may it be sa item or sa location ng meetup). Aaminin ko din na I use the line "gagamitin sa church" when purchasing an item since as mentioned, Christian naman din yung kausap ko and sa Church naman talaga gagamitin so case to case din.

Pero pag non-believer naman ang ka-deal ko, I seldom use the term "Church" since naaabuso na nga... HTH

Uy bro! musta?  +1000 sa comment mo :-)

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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2013, 09:58:48 AM »
ako, in the 3 years that we've been running our store, karamihan ng makukulit, barat at magulong kausap na clients eh yung mga nagsasabing "christian" daw sila, which is sad. as a christian myself, nahihiya ako sa ginagawa nila. mas nakakainit ng ulo yung alam nila na christian din ako, parang mas lalo silang mambabarat, tatawagin akong "brader", na lalo kong kinaiinis

kapag ako naman bumibili ng gamit, hanggat maari hindi ko sinasabi na sa simbahan gagamitin (ako kase ang taga bili ng gamit sa simbahan namin) pwera na lang kung kailangan talaga ng resibo, tsaka ko lang nababanggit na para sa simbahan yun kaya kailangan ng receipt.

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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2013, 12:16:04 PM »
lol

i thought it was a running joke to say that line "para sa church."

i talked to the longest ever running recording studio here in davao, and the biggest headaches they have always had were "people from the church" ... the easiest clients to deal with? "mga metal at maingay na music"

lol ironic ... not that im saying metal heads are better than "church people" ... its just saying "para sa church" gets naive people to believe and trust you despite of the truth, or well, even if it is the truth ... being christian has nothing to do with what someone really is deep inside.

hell, im not a christian - ok, i am, i just dont do the christian stuff - i have never low-balled anyone, or run over a dog or cat just because im "curious what would happen" (as i heard from a guy who was supposedly christian)

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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2013, 12:41:01 PM »
Ako sinasabi ko lang na 'sa church gagamitin' after nung transaction to give the seller an assurance na yung gamit nyang binenta ay nasa maayos na kamay...

Ang panget lang naman talaga sa ganyan eh yung lowballing.
Kaya kung sinasabi nung buyer yang linyang yan,ang reply ko eh "sa church ko din ginagamit bro eh,patas na?"

nakakatawa lang eh kung church member ka,dapat nagrereflect sau yung blessings na pinagkakaloob sayo ng Diyos at di mo na kailangan manlamang pa.
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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2013, 08:49:48 PM »
1) I've used my instruments in church, but I don't use it to make tawad.

2) The maintenance (if you could call it that) of the band instruments in my church is dreadful. So using "ginamit lang sa simbahan" as a selling point means nothing to me.

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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2013, 08:58:08 PM »
I dont use the term gagamitin sa church lol... Mayaman Diyos ko yun ang alam ko.

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Re: Christian buyers at classifieds
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2013, 06:29:57 AM »
mas madali ako magtiwala pero sana wag abusuhin diba...