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Offline rayq78

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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2013, 03:05:36 PM »
yeah... they must live in spirit and in truth.
ang habol lang nyan mga yan is maka gig. obviously...and it is the church leaders responsibility if they will allow musicians like these..
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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2013, 03:22:19 PM »
me kilala ako taga PM pero dko na banggitin kasi okay naman sya kaso ginawa nya work yung pagtugtog...after ng praise and worship yosi na sya...

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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2013, 03:32:36 PM »
Kadalsan sa Music Team na walang music pastors and hindi gaano nababantayan ng pastors nakakapasok yung mga ganong bagay. Kung minsan naman eh magaling at talagang mahusay kaya hirap maialis sa team.

That's the truth in this world.

Uhm, what are your suggestions para masaayos yung mga ganitong bagay?
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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2013, 03:43:04 PM »
Sad but true...

ang habol lang nyan mga yan is maka gig. obviously...and it is the church leaders responsibility if they will allow musicians like these..
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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2013, 04:31:30 PM »
Tapos nakakalungkot pa pag sinabi nila na nagmamalinis daw tayong mga hindi nagyoyosi. Haaay  :-(
ako kasi kala ko kaboses ko si john lennon noon, pero marami nagsasabi na mas kaboses ko si dolphy.


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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2013, 04:50:19 PM »
Kadalsan sa Music Team na walang music pastors and hindi gaano nababantayan ng pastors nakakapasok yung mga ganong bagay. Kung minsan naman eh magaling at talagang mahusay kaya hirap maialis sa team.

That's the truth in this world.

Uhm, what are your suggestions para masaayos yung mga ganitong bagay?
Simple lang din ang sagot dyan... pastors are too busy with their ministry to the point that they are too reluctant with these issues. Their blood(yosi musicians) are at their(pastors) hands. Bottom line is it is the duty of the head pastor. He must know all things that happens inside the ministry.

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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2013, 04:51:02 PM »
Kadalsan sa Music Team na walang music pastors and hindi gaano nababantayan ng pastors nakakapasok yung mga ganong bagay. Kung minsan naman eh magaling at talagang mahusay kaya hirap maialis sa team.

That's the truth in this world.

Uhm, what are your suggestions para masaayos yung mga ganitong bagay?

actually hindi naman issue dapat yan. dapat continously may training kayo for beginners who would want to join your P&W team,
ang kagandahan nito, you shared your talent, and secondly may back-up guitarist na sila,

now panu si kuya yosi kadiri, pastors should not tolerate this, dapat on track lahat, ang sakin lang few worshipers are sometimes given
a punishment. tipong ok provation period ka muna, and explain why. yung sa paraan na magkakaintindihan kayo, and dapat given a warning. and when its too much then act on it na.
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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2013, 08:49:27 AM »
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Simple lang din ang sagot dyan... pastors are too busy with their ministry to the point that they are too reluctant with these issues

Totoo yan, hindi na kasi talaga madaling ma monitor yan.. eto solution jan, naalala ko tuloy si Moises... eto kwento..  medyo mahaba pero magkakaroon kayo  ng Idea kung pano..

Exodus 18:
13:At nangyari kinabukasan, na lumuklok si Moises upang hatulan ang bayan: at ang bayan ay tumayo sa palibot ni Moises mula sa umaga hanggang sa hapon.
14:At nang makita ng biyanan ni Moises ang lahat ng kaniyang ginagawa sa bayan, ay nagsabi, Anong bagay itong ginagawa mo sa bayan? bakit nauupo kang magisa, at ang buong bayan ay nakatayo sa palibot mo mula sa umaga hanggang sa hapon?
15:At sinabi ni Moises sa kaniyang biyanan, Sapagka't ang bayan ay lumalapit sa akin, upang sumangguni sa Dios.
16:Pagka sila'y may usap ay lumapit sa akin; at aking hinahatulang isa't isa, at aking ipinakikilala sa kanila ang mga palatuntunan ng Dios, at ang kaniyang mga kautusan

Imagine mag-isa kalang sa bawat problema, mabibigat na usapin, at magpapalala ng tama at mali sa palatuntunan ng Dios...kaya eto pinagawa sa kanya

21:Bukod dito'y hahanap ka sa buong bayan ng mga taong bihasa, gaya ng matatakutin sa Dios, na mga taong mapagpatotoo, na mga napopoot sa kasakiman; at siyang mga ilagay mo sa kanila, na magpuno sa mga lilibuhin, magpuno sa mga dadaanin, magpuno sa mga lilimangpuin, at magpuno sa mga sasangpuin:
22:At pahatulan mo sa kanila ang bayan sa buong panahon: at mangyayari, na bawa't malaking usap ay dadalhin nila sa iyo, datapuwa't bawa't munting usap, ay silasila ang maghahatulan: sa ganyan ay magiging magaan sa iyo, at magpapasan silang katulong mo.

Hindi madali kahit nakaupo ka sa buong maghapon, tapos napapalibutan ng kalating milyon para lang sagutin isa-isa mga hinaing ng bayan... kahit sino mahihirapan iatang kapag sya lang sasalo ng lahat, dapat ganyan din gawin ng pastor nyo para di mapabayaan yung members nyo. kasi talagang mapapabayaan ang church pag mag isa lang sya magiging hero.. halatang MangMang at di nagbabasa Pastor nyo pag di alam yan..walang paki-alam kung mapabayaan kayo..  lokohan na yan...



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Offline glassisblack

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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2013, 09:49:52 PM »
no talaga sa vices.. diba.. mahirap lumakad ng tuwid para sa Panginoon.

ang magtiis kay Cristo ay maghahari kasama si Cristo. :)

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Offline iAmSorry08

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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2013, 02:15:58 PM »
sa akin, Hindi Ok. Why? kasi masisira yung Testimony mo sa ibang tao and Another thing is tayo ay kawangis ng Diyos. Opinion ko lang po  :-)
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Offline norvin_mangunay

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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2013, 08:28:51 PM »
While we were yet sinners Jesus died for us. Pwede tayong maligtas kahit na tayo ay makasalanan (adik, mamatay, rapist etc). BUT....we cannot TRULY serve God while sinning. Kasalanan ba ang paninigarilyo? YES! Yan naka-post na sa taas. Ang pagsira ng katawan ay kasalanan sa Diyos. Itanong kay Dok kung bakit nakakasira ng katawan. Kahit si google masasagot yan.

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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2013, 08:59:54 PM »
You must be born again to inherit the Kingdom of God. (John 3) -
Ipinanganak na bang muli ang nag yoyosi pa din? Therefore, its the same person.
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Offline rocker4ever

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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2013, 06:25:33 AM »
para sa akin kahit gaano pa sya kagaling kung di nya kayang isuko lahat....
mas okay pang bumalik ang praise and worship sa minus one...katulad dati...

Offline badfinger

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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2013, 10:28:13 AM »
Hindi talaga dapat. Christian musician or not. Regardless of religion. Masama sa katawan yan e.

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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2013, 01:39:17 PM »
As a CHURCH Worker, or I must say as a CHRISTIAN......... HINDI!!! No explanations needed!  <_<


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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2013, 10:10:17 PM »
While we were yet sinners Jesus died for us. Pwede tayong maligtas kahit na tayo ay makasalanan (adik, mamatay, rapist etc). BUT....we cannot TRULY serve God while sinning. Kasalanan ba ang paninigarilyo? YES! Yan naka-post na sa taas. Ang pagsira ng katawan ay kasalanan sa Diyos. Itanong kay Dok kung bakit nakakasira ng katawan. Kahit si google masasagot yan.

Then he said to them all: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me.  - Luke 9:23

Just for thinking mga kapatid, kung ang yosi ay nakasisira sa katawan at un kay kasalanan, di bat ang pagkain ng junk foods at paginom ng softdrinks ay pagsira din sa katawan?
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« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2013, 12:55:47 AM »
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Just for thinking mga kapatid, kung ang yosi ay nakasisira sa katawan at un kay kasalanan, di bat ang pagkain ng junk foods at paginom ng softdrinks ay pagsira din sa katawan?

Scientifically speaking nakaka sira sya ng katawan TAMA... pero dipa sya maituturing na bisyo na pag-nakasanayan mo mahirap ng tanggalin.. magkaiba kasi sila ng level eh...

mahirap ma-adik sa softdrinks maka isang litro ka, mauuhaw kana, TUBIG na agad hahanapin ng dila mo...nakakasawa sya agad dahil matamis... parehas din sa junk-foods madaling maka-umay... pero yung bisyo gaya ng YOSI ibang Level ang tama nyan...
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« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2013, 07:02:01 AM »
Scientifically speaking nakaka sira sya ng katawan TAMA... pero dipa sya maituturing na bisyo na pag-nakasanayan mo mahirap ng tanggalin.. magkaiba kasi sila ng level eh...

mahirap ma-adik sa softdrinks maka isang litro ka, mauuhaw kana, TUBIG na agad hahanapin ng dila mo...nakakasawa sya agad dahil matamis... parehas din sa junk-foods madaling maka-umay... pero yung bisyo gaya ng YOSI ibang Level ang tama nyan...

We can't presume this. Kung nag lelevel tayo ng vices (bad to our health) isn't it contrasting that all sin are sin against God no matter how big or small? I'm against smoking but we need to treat them just as Jesus would.
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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2013, 09:41:28 PM »
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We can't presume this. Kung nag lelevel tayo ng vices (bad to our health) isn't it contrasting that all sin are sin against God no matter how big or small? I'm against smoking but we need to treat them just as Jesus would

parehas may masama epekto kaso sabi ko nga yung level ng BISYO iba... pag sinabing BISYO yan yun bagay na di madaling iwanan kahit isumpa mo... ayon sa pag-aaral ng mga dalubhasa it takes atleast 6months na di ka dapat tumikim ng Yosi para tuluyang mawala yung pag nanasa ng lalamunan ng tao sa sigarilyo... di yan nawawala basta-basta.... at yan ang tinatawag na BISYO..

Ngayon...kung ang katwiran mo naman eh, ang Sofdrinks, JunkFoods eh kasalanan din sa Dios dahil kasi nakakasira ng katawan...sa palagay ko hindi pa PASOK ang reasoning na yan...BAKIT?  edi HALOS lahat nalang ng pagkain ng tao magiging kasalanan sa DIOS... bakit dmo narin idamay ang Ice-Cream na pag nasobrahan ka masama sa katawan, Honey ganun din, eh yung pagkain ng Karne? diba msama rin sa katawan ang laging karne?... kahit nga simpleng prutas lang gaya ng pakwan pagdi tama pagkain mo maghihilab nalang tyan mo, edi masama rin? sama mo narin pati canGoods na may mga preservatives na masama rin sa katawan..pati mga ibat-ibang instant gaya ng noodles.... my ingredients na pag-lagi nalang ganun kinakain ng tao eh nakakasama...  hindi ba ganun ang kauuwian nyan sa huli...?

di nman kasalanan at masama kung titikim ka ng Softdrinks JunkFoods pa minsan-minsan pag may celebration, birthdays, events or minsan sa isang linggo...etc...  pero kung gagawin mo ng Bisyo mayat-maya... jan na magiging tama reasoning mo...
madali naman kasi Controllin ang pagkain at pag-inum nyan kasi di naman yan kaparehas ng BISYO...
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« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2013, 10:51:02 AM »
tinatanong pa ba yan?
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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2013, 09:13:46 AM »
NO WAY

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« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2013, 06:30:22 PM »
Pasintabi lang po.  :-D

Ang pagkain ay hindi po bisyo. It is a necessity. Regardless
Kung healthy o hindi, pagkain pa rin yan. Depende sa content ng
Pagkain kaya dun malalaman kung ito ay makabubuti o hindi
Sa ating katawang panglupa.

Ang sigarilyo ay hindi pagkain.

If we are talking here of vices, i think we cannot compare
Foods vs. cigarettes. There is no apple to apple comparison
Since junk food is still a food and cigarette is not.

My stand here is say no to yosi, YES TO GOD! :-)

As workers, especially us, musicians, we must be holy for our
GOD is holy. :-)

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Offline El Mariachi

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« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2013, 07:57:22 PM »
in addition, what about church musicians/workers having Tattoos and Piercings?  Is it ART, an EXPRESSION or simply called a VICE? hmmmm. :?

Ok pa sana para saken LONG HAIR at DREDZZZZ sa church.. pero kung tatzz at peerzzz na with matching BAD ATTITUDE/MORALS.. no no no...

For me:
Leviticus 19:28 - "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD"

Pa delete nalang po kung misleading sa thread. pero may correlation naman.  :-D


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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #48 on: September 20, 2013, 12:22:52 AM »
sorry bro, you really need to stop it. :(

may kilala akong ganyan eh, Christian sya and nasa praise and worship team nila. classmate ko sya sa Solfege and naaawa lang ako kasi halatang nagyoyosi sya dahil hindi nya marecite ang notes ng maayos.  :oops:

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Re: Church Musicians/Workers na nagyoyosi, okay lang o hindi?
« Reply #49 on: September 20, 2013, 12:35:37 PM »
This is a resounding NO!