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« Reply #75 on: August 14, 2014, 12:19:36 PM »
Sakto tong thread na to hehe actually dito ako nagkaka problema ngayon :)

Gamit ko kasi Sd1 > Bad Monkey (mixer out) kasi ampless kami.

Yung Bad Monkey often on for clean/grit sounding then yung Sd1 as main drive/medium gain. Pansin ko lang parang hindi pang rhythm yung tunog kahit full na yung treble sa Bad Monkey and tone sa Sd1 pero good siya for lead as in full/fat/thick sounding. Pag naka off naman yung Bad Monkey, the best yung Sd1 for open chords/rhythm.

Now I'm thinking to replace the Bad Monkey with a cab sim? (Di pa sure hehe) Then add ako ng higher gain od like OCD / Timmy (ano kaya maganda for Planetshakers-kinda-sound?) :)

With this setup, low-medium gain siguro yung Sd1 then OCD or Timmy for high gain pero okay kaya kalalabasan? Excited! :D


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« Reply #76 on: August 27, 2014, 06:39:06 PM »
I know may mga nag tanong na din nito. But I would still want to ask, which do you prefer OD (ts) first then distortion or distortion first then OD?
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« Reply #77 on: August 27, 2014, 07:50:13 PM »
Sakto tong thread na to hehe actually dito ako nagkaka problema ngayon :)

Gamit ko kasi Sd1 > Bad Monkey (mixer out) kasi ampless kami.

Yung Bad Monkey often on for clean/grit sounding then yung Sd1 as main drive/medium gain. Pansin ko lang parang hindi pang rhythm yung tunog kahit full na yung treble sa Bad Monkey and tone sa Sd1 pero good siya for lead as in full/fat/thick sounding. Pag naka off naman yung Bad Monkey, the best yung Sd1 for open chords/rhythm.

Now I'm thinking to replace the Bad Monkey with a cab sim? (Di pa sure hehe) Then add ako ng higher gain od like OCD / Timmy (ano kaya maganda for Planetshakers-kinda-sound?) :)

With this setup, low-medium gain siguro yung Sd1 then OCD or Timmy for high gain pero okay kaya kalalabasan? Excited! :D

Sir anong church kayo? Ako my current setup for now is Vtone GDI21 (brit mode) + greenmile mooer para sa planetshakers sound like crunch. mejo mahal kasi tlga ung magagandang drives :(

planning to replace those main drives of mine ng mxr 78 + EHX soulfood watcha think sir?
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« Reply #78 on: August 27, 2014, 07:56:38 PM »
I know may mga nag tanong na din nito. But I would still want to ask, which do you prefer OD (ts) first then distortion or distortion first then OD?

Sabi ni TS depende daw yan sayo, Pag nauna ang OD it serves as adding grit/crunch para sa distortion, pag nahuli ang OD it serves as adding volume sa distortion. pagpalitpalitin mo lang ika nga ni TS nkadepende parin yan sa playing mo.

pero ako mas gusto ko ung una ang OD, kasi anjan naman ung comp66 ko para buhayin ang volume for solos
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« Reply #79 on: January 15, 2015, 11:48:42 AM »
I'm planning to buy a EHX Soul Food overdrive.  May experience ba kayo dito?


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« Reply #80 on: January 17, 2015, 01:56:22 AM »
Sir anong church kayo? Ako my current setup for now is Vtone GDI21 (brit mode) + greenmile mooer para sa planetshakers sound like crunch. mejo mahal kasi tlga ung magagandang drives :(

planning to replace those main drives of mine ng mxr 78 + EHX soulfood watcha think sir?

Onga bro mahal nga talaga sila, pero okay nga daw yung Greenmile tapos yung Hustle Drive. Okay ba yung Vtone bro? Ginagamit mo din ba siya as clean? Thank you in advance! :D Victory Fort ako bro

EHX Soulfood sa tingin ko okay e hehe, actually yun hanap ko ngayon haha!
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« Reply #81 on: January 17, 2015, 07:46:56 AM »
hi bros! im a newbie in P&W music, will be playing soon in victory fort hehe, curious lang ako, do i readlly need 3 gain stages? light od, med and high gain? currently using a fulldrive 2. im wondering if i need another od.

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« Reply #82 on: January 17, 2015, 07:13:43 PM »
hi bros! im a newbie in P&W music, will be playing soon in victory fort hehe, curious lang ako, do i readlly need 3 gain stages? light od, med and high gain? currently using a fulldrive 2. im wondering if i need another od.

i suggest you buy a transparent od or light od.  :-D

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« Reply #83 on: January 18, 2015, 02:02:24 AM »
hi bros! im a newbie in P&W music, will be playing soon in victory fort hehe, curious lang ako, do i readlly need 3 gain stages? light od, med and high gain? currently using a fulldrive 2. im wondering if i need another od.

Bro Victory Fort ka pala? Kita kits soon! Hehe depende sa preference mo bro, ako kasi I need 3 kasi yung isa for boost lang then med and high gain :) Lalo na sa P&W medyo kelangan versatility sa dirt hehe
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« Reply #84 on: January 18, 2015, 09:49:13 AM »
i suggest you buy a transparent od or light od.  :-D

Bro Victory Fort ka pala? Kita kits soon! Hehe depende sa preference mo bro, ako kasi I need 3 kasi yung isa for boost lang then med and high gain :) Lalo na sa P&W medyo kelangan versatility sa dirt hehe
kitakits bro!

undecided kung mag dadagdag pa ng isang od. im thinking yung light and med gain sounds eh oks na yung FD-2. for high gain, pwede kaya ang fuzz? Ofcourse set to just the right amount of high gain, not to the hendrix explosion type hehe.

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« Reply #85 on: January 19, 2015, 09:30:27 PM »
hi bros! im a newbie in P&W music, will be playing soon in victory fort hehe, curious lang ako, do i readlly need 3 gain stages? light od, med and high gain? currently using a fulldrive 2. im wondering if i need another od.
Welcome bro! :-)

Regarding sa tanong mo, not necessary na 3 overdrive sa board, pero ok din yun. You can get 3 stages of gain just using 2 ODs. 1 for light grit/gain, 2 for medium gain, then stack mo sila to get inyo higher gain. FD2 din gamit ko, then Timmy as my low gain. Almost always on timmy ko, 90% of the time hehe. Sa picking nalang bahala para mas marinig yung grit nya. Then boost ko yung Fulldrive. Medium gain yung FD2. Bihira ko din gamitin yung boost side ng FD2, unless nakaset ako sa compcut mode. Hehe.

Favorite combo ko yung 2 OD na yan, tagal na sakin nyan and it really works kahit sa mga planetshakers song. Stack ko lang silang dalawa para mas mabigat. Hehe. Timmy has enough gain as well as FD2. Masarap na combo yung transparent or bluesbraker pati Tubescreamer.

Hope this helps.

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« Reply #86 on: January 20, 2015, 12:35:27 PM »
Welcome bro! :-)

Regarding sa tanong mo, not necessary na 3 overdrive sa board, pero ok din yun. You can get 3 stages of gain just using 2 ODs. 1 for light grit/gain, 2 for medium gain, then stack mo sila to get inyo higher gain. FD2 din gamit ko, then Timmy as my low gain. Almost always on timmy ko, 90% of the time hehe. Sa picking nalang bahala para mas marinig yung grit nya. Then boost ko yung Fulldrive. Medium gain yung FD2. Bihira ko din gamitin yung boost side ng FD2, unless nakaset ako sa compcut mode. Hehe.

Favorite combo ko yung 2 OD na yan, tagal na sakin nyan and it really works kahit sa mga planetshakers song. Stack ko lang silang dalawa para mas mabigat. Hehe. Timmy has enough gain as well as FD2. Masarap na combo yung transparent or bluesbraker pati Tubescreamer.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks. Will have to test the waters first hehe baka bumalik ako sa BD-2 if a transparent od is really needed. sa ngayon kasi i use the overdrive section for light od, tapos i boost it for medium gain. Then yun na , no high gain hehe. Regarding FD2 im starting to realize why many consider it as one of the best med gain overdrives out there. Hard to explain but it sounds good it makes you play differently!

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« Reply #87 on: January 21, 2015, 02:21:23 PM »
I have a 3 stack od in my board

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« Reply #88 on: January 29, 2015, 10:31:28 AM »
Guys sa may Soulfood. Pa feedback naman how was it. I currently have FD2, Ibanez JD9. I know NTM will say Timmy. Hahaha. Mukhang hindi pa kaya ng budget and I am thinking of adding Soulfood. Feedback naman diyan.
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« Reply #89 on: January 30, 2015, 09:24:48 AM »
Guys sa may Soulfood. Pa feedback naman how was it. I currently have FD2, Ibanez JD9. I know NTM will say Timmy. Hahaha. Mukhang hindi pa kaya ng budget and I am thinking of adding Soulfood. Feedback naman diyan.

Timmy. hahahaha

Gusto ko din matry actually yung soul food. mura kasi, tapos gusto ko magkaroon ng klon type OD sa board ko. hehe  :-D
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« Reply #90 on: February 02, 2015, 08:55:23 AM »
mukhang ok din ung JRAD archer eh.. klon type drive din eh..


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« Reply #91 on: February 13, 2015, 12:30:53 PM »
Hi. I recently acquired a Boss DS-1 Britmod, I got one because I need some bite for my solos and for high gain Planetshakers-type of sound also. I can't get a good sounding high gain drive from my solid state amp when cranking my Hustle Drive, I liked how it sounds bottom-heavy but it makes the sound fuzzy and takes away clarity.

I set up my overdrive chain to this: Rave Come On Scream TS > Hustle Drive > DS-1. The tubescreamer is used as clean and mid boost, for making some clean lead lines heard above the mix. I would stack this to the Hustle Drive which is my main drive pedal. Then for over-the-top, heavily overdriven lead lines, I would be stacking all three.

My first setup was: Hustle Drive > DS-1 > Come On Scream but I noticed that the tubescreamer takes away the bite I need for solos when I stack all of them. I went to bed late last night thinking about the best overdrive chain setup for me. What might work best guys? Thanks for your suggestions.  :)

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« Reply #92 on: February 13, 2015, 02:11:29 PM »
Hi. I recently acquired a Boss DS-1 Britmod, I got one because I need some bite for my solos and for high gain Planetshakers-type of sound also. I can't get a good sounding high gain drive from my solid state amp when cranking my Hustle Drive, I liked how it sounds bottom-heavy but it makes the sound fuzzy and takes away clarity.

I set up my overdrive chain to this: Rave Come On Scream TS > Hustle Drive > DS-1. The tubescreamer is used as clean and mid boost, for making some clean lead lines heard above the mix. I would stack this to the Hustle Drive which is my main drive pedal. Then for over-the-top, heavily overdriven lead lines, I would be stacking all three.

My first setup was: Hustle Drive > DS-1 > Come On Scream but I noticed that the tubescreamer takes away the bite I need for solos when I stack all of them. I went to bed late last night thinking about the best overdrive chain setup for me. What might work best guys? Thanks for your suggestions.  :)

I do have Timmy and Fulldrive 2. Picking style nalang ginagawa ko, always on yung Timmy with gain at 12 o'clock. Tapos kapag kailangan ko ng heavy rhythm sound, full level sa knob pati mas mabigat na picking style.
For solos naman gamit ko madalas Fulldrive. Mabigat na yun, tapos naglalaro lang yung gain ko sa 11-1 o'clock. nagagamit ko din boost nya for more compressed sound on mosfet mode.
Pag planetshakers naman, stacked both timmy and FD2. bigat. clear. panalo na sakin. hehehe. Guitar > FD2 > Timmy. Gain boost ko yung FD2. Main OD ko timmy, kasi sya na din nagseset ng EQ at overall gain ko..hehe

Bihira na ako magstack ng OD ngayon. pero nakakaapekto talaga kasi yung pickup na gamit. nakaTexmex ako sa japanese strat ko, so high output mas magain. Kapag ibang strat gamit ko, di naman ganun ka-gain so ok lang istack mga OD.hehe
On your case, kapag nagstack ka ng 3 drives mo, mukang mawawala talaga character at clarity ng drives mo. no rules naman, pag balikbaliktarin mo na yun mga drives. pag di ka parin makakuha ng sound na gusto mo, benta mo and get higher end pedals......sa madaling salita....butik. hahaha GAS lang.
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« Reply #93 on: February 13, 2015, 10:07:34 PM »
I do have Timmy and Fulldrive 2. Picking style nalang ginagawa ko, always on yung Timmy with gain at 12 o'clock. Tapos kapag kailangan ko ng heavy rhythm sound, full level sa knob pati mas mabigat na picking style.
For solos naman gamit ko madalas Fulldrive. Mabigat na yun, tapos naglalaro lang yung gain ko sa 11-1 o'clock. nagagamit ko din boost nya for more compressed sound on mosfet mode.
Pag planetshakers naman, stacked both timmy and FD2. bigat. clear. panalo na sakin. hehehe. Guitar > FD2 > Timmy. Gain boost ko yung FD2. Main OD ko timmy, kasi sya na din nagseset ng EQ at overall gain ko..hehe

Bihira na ako magstack ng OD ngayon. pero nakakaapekto talaga kasi yung pickup na gamit. nakaTexmex ako sa japanese strat ko, so high output mas magain. Kapag ibang strat gamit ko, di naman ganun ka-gain so ok lang istack mga OD.hehe
On your case, kapag nagstack ka ng 3 drives mo, mukang mawawala talaga character at clarity ng drives mo. no rules naman, pag balikbaliktarin mo na yun mga drives. pag di ka parin makakuha ng sound na gusto mo, benta mo and get higher end pedals......sa madaling salita....butik. hahaha GAS lang.

Hi sir NTM! Thanks for sharing your setup. How do you boost your volume for solos by the way? Sinasagad niyo lang po volume ng guitar?

And on another note, kakatapos lang ng rehearsal namin for our youth gathering tomorrow at nasubukan ko na yung bago kong setup. I liked the stacked overdrive sound in bedroom levels but nung nag stack ako kanina, I sounded muddy and I find it hard to cut through the mix. I think it's due to my DS-1, kahit low gain settings ko with level knob higher than unity volume, when I stack all three, hindi ganun karinig, unlike my previous setup which is Hustle Drive > Come On Scream (HD's gain set to taste and COS with no gain, just the level at noon), walang ganong bite pero angat sa mix. My tone worsened due to my somehow broken-sounding amp.

Siguro babaguhin ko na lang ulit yung setup ko, try ko rin yung 3 separate stages of overdrive, no stacking. But I do love the idea of stacking overdrives for smoother transitions and less tap dancing. If all else fails, it might be GAS time once again.  :-D


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« Reply #94 on: February 13, 2015, 10:28:25 PM »
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« Reply #95 on: February 13, 2015, 11:40:40 PM »
Hi sir NTM! Thanks for sharing your setup. How do you boost your volume for solos by the way? Sinasagad niyo lang po volume ng guitar?

And on another note, kakatapos lang ng rehearsal namin for our youth gathering tomorrow at nasubukan ko na yung bago kong setup. I liked the stacked overdrive sound in bedroom levels but nung nag stack ako kanina, I sounded muddy and I find it hard to cut through the mix. I think it's due to my DS-1, kahit low gain settings ko with level knob higher than unity volume, when I stack all three, hindi ganun karinig, unlike my previous setup which is Hustle Drive > Come On Scream (HD's gain set to taste and COS with no gain, just the level at noon), walang ganong bite pero angat sa mix. My tone worsened due to my somehow broken-sounding amp.

Siguro babaguhin ko na lang ulit yung setup ko, try ko rin yung 3 separate stages of overdrive, no stacking. But I do love the idea of stacking overdrives for smoother transitions and less tap dancing. If all else fails, it might be GAS time once again.  :-D

Volume ng guitar for more grit lang or gain. Pero hindi ko kasi sinasagad yung volume ng Volume Pedal ko..hehe. So kapag solo na, stacked FD2 and timmy, tapos isasagad ko yung VP. pasok sa solos. Pero iipon ako konti, tapos try ko ulit kumuha ng RC Booster. hehehe

Yes maganda nga din may stages of gain sa drives mo, tapos may separate boost ka for solos..hehehe.  :cute: panalo yun. :D
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« Reply #96 on: February 17, 2015, 01:24:20 AM »
Been pondering on these setups since yesterday, which overdrive pair do you think might sound better when stacked?


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« Reply #97 on: June 27, 2015, 11:15:28 AM »
Guys anong main overdrive pedal nyo ngayon? hehe. Planning to get one pero di ko pa alam kung ano. I currently have Paul C. Timmy and Arc Effects Klone. Nagiisip ako na palitan Timmy or magdagdag na lang ng isang stand alone OD pa..hehe King of Tone sana..hahaha pero hirap maghanap, pati mahal..hahaha
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« Reply #98 on: June 27, 2015, 12:55:44 PM »
Guys anong main overdrive pedal nyo ngayon? hehe. Planning to get one pero di ko pa alam kung ano. I currently have Paul C. Timmy and Arc Effects Klone. Nagiisip ako na palitan Timmy or magdagdag na lang ng isang stand alone OD pa..hehe King of Tone sana..hahaha pero hirap maghanap, pati mahal..hahaha

Yung main overdrive ko po is Come On Scream tubescreamer pa rin. I thought about selling it and then I'll just use my Hustle Drive as my main drive since medyo nahihirapan ako mag-dial ng overdrive tone sa COS, but one day, I tried stacking my Strymon OB.1 with the COS, then my plans have changed and the Mooer got sold instead. I just loved how the OB.1 and the COS sounded when stacked. I think the boost side of the OB.1 in treble mode helped in improving my tone, though may emphasis pa rin sa mids dahil sa TS, nagkaroon ng clarity and better "attack" yung notes. Pag hindi engaged yung boost side pansin ko masyadong nasal-sounding.

For overdrive pedal suggestions, maybe you want to try sir Nep yung Walrus Audio overdrive pedals (Voyager or Mayflower). JHS Superbolt pwede rin  :) I haven't tried any of those yet, but they sounded great when I listened to their Youtube demos. They are the best sounding ODs to my ears so far.  :)

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« Reply #99 on: June 27, 2015, 02:51:44 PM »
Yung main overdrive ko po is Come On Scream tubescreamer pa rin. I thought about selling it and then I'll just use my Hustle Drive as my main drive since medyo nahihirapan ako mag-dial ng overdrive tone sa COS, but one day, I tried stacking my Strymon OB.1 with the COS, then my plans have changed and the Mooer got sold instead. I just loved how the OB.1 and the COS sounded when stacked. I think the boost side of the OB.1 in treble mode helped in improving my tone, though may emphasis pa rin sa mids dahil sa TS, nagkaroon ng clarity and better "attack" yung notes. Pag hindi engaged yung boost side pansin ko masyadong nasal-sounding.

For overdrive pedal suggestions, maybe you want to try sir Nep yung Walrus Audio overdrive pedals (Voyager or Mayflower). JHS Superbolt pwede rin  :) I haven't tried any of those yet, but they sounded great when I listened to their Youtube demos. They are the best sounding ODs to my ears so far.  :)

Thanks bro! I need a stand alone OD, yung kaya mag high gain pero ok din in low gain setting. Yes, ok Walrus Audio, pero yung Voyager is Klon clone so baka redundant lang sya sa Arc Klone ko. While yung Mayflower sabi nila eh parang Timmy daw. hehe

I'm considering some Marshall bluesbreaker circuit siguro like Morning Glory, or alike. hehehe. Pero naisip ko din yang Superbolt, pero baka sobra naman high gain para sakin.hahaha. Or kung TS naman puro na ata booster yung OD ko..tss
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