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Bluesmaster 59 Build
« on: April 13, 2014, 09:03:48 PM »
I'm about to build a guitar and I thought I'd share the process with you guys. I got into guitar building by browsing through forums 5-6 years ago. Never really took off right away because I haven't the faintest clue where to start. I knew nothing about power tools. I knew OF hand tools but never had used one properly. Luckily, I met a few people here in Philmusic that already got their feet wet. Learned A LOT from them. They basically pointed me in the right direction.

Anyhoo, I got a chance to measure a 2004 Gustavsson Bluesmaster. In case some of you do not know, The Bluesmaster is one of the sought after boutique LP type guitars. I've always admired the design of the Bluesmaster. I love how it's like a cross between a tele and an LP. But sexier.



Still uploading a few pics. So this is basically a "Watch this space" post. :lol:
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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2014, 09:19:28 PM »
The wood.

One piece Mahogany body. One piece mahogany neck (no decent pic yet) :eek:



Rosewood fingerboard



Eastern Maple Top



That's it for now. Maybe more tomorrow. We'll see :-P
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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2014, 09:52:23 PM »
Level up ka na Kevs!  :razz: Looking forward to this build.

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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2014, 09:56:32 PM »
me tooooo

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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2014, 10:12:00 PM »
Kevs, is this guitar confirmed solid body?

Johann is known for how he does his slotting and that's what gives the tone the unique charcter...

That knowledge may be the most to gain from.... hopefully you can get an xray through Daveyboy
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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2014, 10:21:25 PM »
Herbey Santos ordered this? Kilala ko ata yan
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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2014, 10:44:06 PM »
Sige ipush mo yan!

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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2014, 10:57:11 PM »
Herbey Santos ordered this? Kilala ko ata yan


Talas talaga ng mata mo pards :lol:

@Esse, I've looked into it a little bit. It seems those flute chambers are for the voicing of the guitar. Not sure how that works but I am willing to do that solely for the benefit of weight relief.
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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2014, 11:50:45 PM »
I would think it's being done more for tone than it is being done for weight relief at least by Johann
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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2014, 03:41:06 AM »
The chambering could be something similar to these:



The left-most example looks like a Warmoth chambered body. They were the first that I've seen doing it like that. Here is another example:


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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2014, 06:30:11 AM »
Finally, a Gilead build thread! Plus, a 59 Bluesmaster replica build makes it even more interesting. :)
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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2014, 09:09:39 AM »
 59 Gileadstavsson Ribsmaster

jk :lol

kev, are you going to do 1:1 or may konting twist like different headstock etc. ?



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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2014, 09:15:05 AM »
here it is Kev... you'll just have to use mathematics skillz to get things into proper scale

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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2014, 09:35:14 AM »
abangan namin to GY = GilYad
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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2014, 10:21:21 AM »
go harbey! grats!
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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2014, 11:07:06 AM »

@Esse, I've looked into it a little bit. It seems those flute chambers are for the voicing of the guitar. Not sure how that works but I am willing to do that solely for the benefit of weight relief.

medyo technical, but i'm sure that you'll understand and appreciate this.

the "tuning" chambers are governed by wavelength re-enforcement principles.  a frequency is re-enforced at its own wavelength, or at 1/4 its wavelength.  so let's say you want to emphasize resonance at a certain note, what you do is get the wavelength of that note, and carve-out a chamber equal to that wavelength or 1/4 of that same wavelength.  the chamber does not have to be a straight line... it can be curved.

think of those large pipe organs.  the large pipes are tuned based on the same principles.  but for practicality purposes, small instruments have to use the 1/4 wave principle. the cool part of knowing this principle is that you quickly realize that wood/material selection is not the only means of mechanically tuning an instrument's resonance... you can now leverage wavelengths.

I know this because I used to experiment making speaker boxes based on 1/4 wavelength transmission line designs.

ex:
A440Hz has a wavelength of 78.41cm.  if you want to create resonance at that frequency, either create a chamber with a  length of 78.41cm, or 19.6cm (1/4 its value).

now the trick here is that you have to choose the frequencies you want to re-enforce.  I guess a good starting point is to re-enforce frequencies at the "presence" region of 1000-5000Hz, so that the guitar will sound "lively".

here is a mapping for frequencies to wavelengths for reference purposes:
http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html

I hope this helps.
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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2014, 12:02:19 PM »
The chambering could be something similar to these:



The left-most example looks like a Warmoth chambered body. They were the first that I've seen doing it like that. Here is another example:



JG's chambers look like this. Thanks for the link, Esse.

here it is Kev... you'll just have to use mathematics skillz to get things into proper scale

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/8479730@N04/13835908785/


Thanks Esse. I believe I saw another variation of this type of chambering. I'll try to look for it in TGP.

59 Gileadstavsson Ribsmaster

jk :lol

kev, are you going to do 1:1 or may konting twist like different headstock etc. ?


Personally, I wanted to use my own headstock, but for the sake of replicating, I'll copy the flimsy headstock :lol:
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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2014, 12:15:33 PM »
medyo technical, but i'm sure that you'll understand and appreciate this.

the "tuning" chambers are governed by wavelength re-enforcement principles.  a frequency is re-enforced at its own wavelength, or at 1/4 its wavelength.  so let's say you want to emphasize resonance at a certain note, what you do is get the wavelength of that note, and carve-out a chamber equal to that wavelength or 1/4 of that same wavelength.  the chamber does not have to be a straight line... it can be curved.

think of those large pipe organs.  the large pipes are tuned based on the same principles.  but for practicality purposes, small instruments have to use the 1/4 wave principle. the cool part of knowing this principle is that you quickly realize that wood/material selection is not the only means of mechanically tuning an instrument's resonance... you can now leverage wavelengths.

I know this because I used to experiment making speaker boxes based on 1/4 wavelength transmission line designs.

ex:
A440Hz has a wavelength of 78.41cm.  if you want to create resonance at that frequency, either create a chamber with a  length of 78.41cm, or 19.6cm (1/4 its value).

now the trick here is that you have to choose the frequencies you want to re-enforce.  I guess a good starting point is to re-enforce frequencies at the "presence" region of 1000-5000Hz, so that the guitar will sound "lively".

here is a mapping for frequencies to wavelengths for reference purposes:
http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html

I hope this helps.

Anong "medyo"? :eek: :lol:

JG probably applied the same principles in his chamber method.



You guys see the chambers in the butt area not having the same heights? I think no two chambers are of the same size.

Excellent...

Thanks!

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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2014, 04:38:18 PM »
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Re: 59 Bluesmaster Build
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2014, 04:43:59 PM »




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Re: Bluesmaster 59 Build
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2014, 08:42:50 PM »
Level up ka na Kevs!  :razz: Looking forward to this build.

me tooooo

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steg. ano pups ilalagay dyan?

Either Wolfetones or Sheptones. Ita-try pareho tapos pipiliian ang masbagay. :razz:
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Re: Bluesmaster 59 Build
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2014, 08:56:53 PM »
For this build, since I don't have the skills and enough time with the instrument. I will have to make several assumptions. All based on burst measurements (e.g., neck heel, pickup routes, control cavity, headstock angle, etc.). The only thing I have to change is the placement of the switch cavity.

If you notice, the 3-way switch is farther on the JG compared to the Les Paul. Here are some pics I googled.





Also, the routing for the cover plate is not concentric with the switch cavity.



More interesting pics to come :razz:
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Re: Bluesmaster 59 Build
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2014, 07:51:23 AM »
Necks. I have a bunch of blanks, and here are the best ones I have so far.





I already had the fingerboard surface jointed several weeks ago. So happy they stayed true. No movement. Awesome.

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Re: Bluesmaster 59 Build
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2014, 09:31:40 AM »


Just realized, It kinda looks like the AV3 of SAMICK Greg Bennett!
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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2014, 09:42:12 AM »
subscribing.

loving that raw one piece neck.