Drum Mics / Drum Micing Thread

[peeves24]

best bang for the buck ang samson para sa mga home studios pati na rin sa live.

here's a comparison i made using a shure sm57 and a samson qtom. let your ears and your wallet decide.

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,145072.0.html

[wireme]

best bang for the buck ang samson para sa mga home studios pati na rin sa live.

here's a comparison i made using a shure sm57 and a samson qtom. let your ears and your wallet decide.

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,145072.0.html

thanks! itong klase ok na ba ito?
http://www.musiciansbuy.com/SAMSON_7KIT_DRUM_MIC_7KT7KTKIT_KIT.html

san mo kinakabit yung mics? kailangan ba ng mixer?

[peeves24]

yup ok na yan.

dito nakakabit sa kin http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=43

wag ka na bumili ng mixer. my firestudio project can be a stand-alone mixer if i need it to mic my drums live or i can use it with my pc to record drum tracks at home. i got it at ebay for 15k used. kapresyo lang ng mga  8-channel mixers din kaya dito ka na lang.

[phfreq]

I'm currently using audix mics --

snare -- i5
kick -- d2
overheads -- 2 x f15
rack toms -- f10
floor tom -- f12

audix ung kinuha ko kasi nakakuha ako ng good deal sa used ng fusion set nila tapos nagdagdag na lang ako ng i5 and d2. Ganda tunog nung f15 as cymbal overheads. Walang processing or eq akong ginagawa sa nirerecord ko ang ganda na. Ganun din ung sa i5. Tapos ung i5, f10, f12, metal ung casing and since nakakabit sya sa snare and toms, kaya nya kahit paano iwithstand ung matamaan sya ng stick

Hardware recording ang setup ko (fostex hard disk recorder) - kailangan ng mixer (yamaha mg series) dahil sa number of inputs.

starting to mic the drums is a dangerous path (for the person and his wallet ). Dyan nagsisimula lahat Una mic, susunod stands/clips, susunod recorder (or computer + interface + softare) susunod processing / production tools. Wala pa yung sound proofing and acoustics ng room

Ano pala objective mo bakit mo gusto mic? Sometimes a camera could do, or maybe one of those portable recorders (ganda nung zoom q3 ). Depende sa objective mo, you might be able to get by with some of the cheap mics, post-processing lang ang katapat nyan


BTW, the drum recording thread might also help...

[starfugger]

the usual suspects used in professional recording studios are as follows:

kick - akg d112, senheiser MD 421, Shure Beta 52
toms - Shure Sm57, MD 421, Audio Technica atm 25, akg d112 (floor),
snare - MD 421, Shure SM 57
snare botton - sm 57 or any large diaphragm condenser that can handle high SPL's
overheads - akg c451 or other pencil condensers like the Rode NT 5 matched pair
hihats = akg c451 or other pencil condensers
ambient mic - at 4050 or any large diaphragm condenser (you don't need this if the room doesnt really sound so good)

you could look for alternatives for these if you're concerned about budget. peeves found a cost effective alternative for the 57. 

i suggest use mic stands instead of clips.  it's best to record in a not so reverberant space (do the "clap test"), with a high ceiling

phfreq was right to ask about your purpose.  san mo sya gagamitin?

[Musikero_drumer]

bro go with the beta52 yung kick
and sm57 for toms or pwede din yung mga PG..

[wireme]

I'm currently using audix mics --

snare -- i5
kick -- d2
overheads -- 2 x f15
rack toms -- f10
floor tom -- f12

audix ung kinuha ko kasi nakakuha ako ng good deal sa used ng fusion set nila tapos nagdagdag na lang ako ng i5 and d2. Ganda tunog nung f15 as cymbal overheads. Walang processing or eq akong ginagawa sa nirerecord ko ang ganda na. Ganun din ung sa i5. Tapos ung i5, f10, f12, metal ung casing and since nakakabit sya sa snare and toms, kaya nya kahit paano iwithstand ung matamaan sya ng stick

Hardware recording ang setup ko (fostex hard disk recorder) - kailangan ng mixer (yamaha mg series) dahil sa number of inputs.

starting to mic the drums is a dangerous path (for the person and his wallet ). Dyan nagsisimula lahat Una mic, susunod stands/clips, susunod recorder (or computer + interface + softare) susunod processing / production tools. Wala pa yung sound proofing and acoustics ng room

Ano pala objective mo bakit mo gusto mic? Sometimes a camera could do, or maybe one of those portable recorders (ganda nung zoom q3 ). Depende sa objective mo, you might be able to get by with some of the cheap mics, post-processing lang ang katapat nyan


BTW, the drum recording thread might also help...

thanks for the input bro!

gusto ko muna itry at pagaralan dito sa house then if alam ko na, will try to apply it sa church.

[wireme]

yup ok na yan.

dito nakakabit sa kin http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=43

wag ka na bumili ng mixer. my firestudio project can be a stand-alone mixer if i need it to mic my drums live or i can use it with my pc to record drum tracks at home. i got it at ebay for 15k used. kapresyo lang ng mga  8-channel mixers din kaya dito ka na lang.

maraming salamat! sige makapaghanap din ng used, hehehe! kung malapit ka lang, magpapaturo at magpapatulong ako sayo, libre na lang kita sa burger store ko.

[phfreq]

thanks for the input bro!

gusto ko muna itry at pagaralan dito sa house then if alam ko na, will try to apply it sa church.

ah ok. Kung ultimately gagamitin sa church, I would suggest starting it right and start kaagad dun sa intented venue and purpose. Research and read a lot. Tapos, sa mic'ing, maraming factors -- set, drummer, location, etc.. Ang mangyayari, experimentation pa rin ng placement, levels, processing, etc... The setup that works at home might not work dun sa venue -- room acoustics, area where the sound needs to be propagated, speakers/PA, etc..

visiting other churches, talking to how they're setup, looking at their equipment, and talking to whoever's in charge will be a lot of help. You'll know which ones work and which don't, what their problems are and how they solved it. Pag bumisita, kung makukuhanan mo ng picture / video ung place -- carpeted ba, maraming windows, walls, curtains, PA, etc.. Basically venue acoustics.

Goog luck in your quest

[fredpogi]

pede po ba humingi ng suggestions kung anung mic ang ginagamit for kick drum? sana po yung mura lang irekominda nyo dahil tight ang budget ko. wag naman yung pangit ang tunog. at least "decent" sounding po. salamat sa inyo!

[uglyguy]

AKG D-112

[barabbas]

AKG D-112

AKG D-112 yan ang mismo sa lahat.....

[pmack]

in a budget daw mga bro. d112's are way above the 10K price range.
for something cheaper but does the job well, i would suggest samson's q-kick. it's not perfect pero it's way above decent.

[mr. trigger]

JTS TX-2 kick mic  abot kaya.. ok pa sa performance hehehe yan gamit ko e

[barabbas]

mag shure microphones ka... atleast eto trusted name SHURE PG52XLR mura lang yan around 5k + lang......

[peeves24]

in a budget daw mga bro. d112's are way above the 10K price range.
for something cheaper but does the job well, i would suggest samson's q-kick. it's not perfect pero it's way above decent.

+1

samson q-kick for 2400 is more than decent 

[drumachine]

setup mo to sir?

[peeves24]

yep

[drumachine]

bow! di ka talaga nauubusan! galing!

[boyet garcia]

subukan niyo po ae 2500 nang audiotechnica kung meron na sa pinas yan po ang ultimate drum kick mic Features
The ultimate kick-drum mic

Revolutionary dual-element design represents a ground-breaking transducer achievement

Two elements (condenser and dynamic) are enclosed in a single housing

Dynamic element delivers the aggressive attack of the beater while the condenser captures the round tonalities of the shell

Elements are positioned in a perfect phase relationship, something practically unachievable with two separate microphones

Robust design for enduring dependability on the road

Integral 80 Hz HPF switch and 10 dB pad on condenser element

Includes a 16.5' (5 m) cable (5-pin XLRF to two standard 3-pin XLRM connectors) for separate control over each element

Specification
Elements: Condenser, dynamic

Signal to Noise Ratio: 70 dB, 1 kHz at 1 Pa (condenser)

Polar Pattern: Cardioid

Dynamic Range (Typical): 124 dB, 1 kHz at Max. SPL (condenser)

Frequency Response:
20 - 17,000 Hz (condenser)
30 - 10,000 (dynamic)

Phantom Power Requirements: 11-52V, 3 mA typical (condenser)

Open Circuit Sensitivity:
-51 dB (2.8 mV) re 1V at 1 Pa (condenser)
-54 dB (1.9 mV) re 1V at 1 Pa (dynamic)

Switches: 10 dB pad; roll-off (condenser)

Impedance:
100 ohms (condenser)
600 ohms (dynamic)

Low Frequency Roll-off: 80 Hz, 12 dB per octave (condenser)

Maximum Input Sound Level: 148 dB SPL, 1 kHz at 1% T.H.D. (condenser)

Weight: 13.8 oz (390 g)

Output Connector: Integral 5-pin XLRM-type

[matanilawin]

AUDIX D6 Instrument Mic

[pmack]

AUDIX D6 Instrument Mic

eto natry ko rin. maganda rin siyang all-around drum mic, hindi lang pang-kick.
may nirecord na drum track using only one mic. it's this mic. with a little eq tweaking, ok yung kinalabasan (for demo lang ha syempre).

[MaKaManDaG]

Mga sirs, ano the best EQ settings para sa drums ko....nkabili kasi ako ng Shure Drum Kit (7 mics) bale alam naman natin yung settings para sa Bass Drum Mic na more on Low freq sa mixer EQ.... suggest naman kayo sir kung anong the best settings para sa snare mic,tom1 mic,tom2 mic,floor tom mic and syempre sa 2 phantom power mics na naka angat para sa mga cymbals, yung settings ko kasi pachambahan lang, masyado matinning sakit sa tenga hehehehe....tnx po mga sirs

[Justin Maulit]

Sa church namin di na namin ineequalizer eh  Kung ano yung tunog nung drums with the mic and all, yun na yun. I don't think equalizing is necessary, but thats just me. Hope that helped 

[ishen006]

gano ba kalaki yung church nyo sir makamandag? and anong drums ang gamit nyo.,