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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #550 on: August 05, 2013, 04:24:39 PM »
err kung sinilip mo mga post ko dito sa thread na to, you'll see that i started planning this since 2008 and just started in 2011. first step ko kasi nirenovate ko sya para concrete muna all around.  first rule kasi yun is to create a continuous mass for your outer shell.

may time din na ayaw ko na tapusin at electronic drums na lang ginamit ko pero nagbalik loob lang. eto na yung phase 2 na ginagawa na yung room within a room.

ang nipis ng walls mo, wala din effect yan kung yan lang yung gagamitin mo.
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« Reply #551 on: August 05, 2013, 08:25:19 PM »
oo sir manipis nga lang
di ko kasi apagawang cement kasi kinakabahan erpats ko baka di kayanin ng pundasyon ng bahay.
anyway i already did some test on sound bago ko ito ipaayos
inakyat ko yung PA ko which is a pair of 500w speaker

and actually halos mahina lang bagsak ng tunog pag nasa baba ka ng rooftop
i dunno if sarado na sya ganun pa din
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« Reply #552 on: August 06, 2013, 09:16:16 PM »
its a big milestone for me. usable na yung room but still not 100% complete.
1. aircon will be installed in 3 days
2. wood flooring - suspended for lack of funds. laki ng gap sa ilalim ng inner door tuloy.
3. acoustic treatment - select places pa lang. wala fabric na pang cover sa four walls ng rockwool tapos kailangan ko maghanap ng decorative wood para sa mga helmholtz resonators.

noong 2011, nagsimula sya sa ganito


50 sheets gypsum for 3 layers, 76 pieces of 2x4 lumber, 1500 gypsum screws later



room within a room - average gap between inner and outer walls is 3"


some gaps are 6" wide. i had a lot of wasted space between the front and back walls due to pillars.


dami rockwool, 1/4 lang yun nung binili ko


ilalagay ko yung rockwool sa gitna ng studs tapos babalutan ng tela at palo china


for the inner room door, i used the same door from before the renovation


last layer ng gypsum natapos kanina


i used LED bulbs on track lights para small holes lang ang gagawin sa gypsum



the only serious hole on my gypsum wall is for the split aircon duct


di ko lang nakunan yung window, i have a usable window which is seen on the 3rd pic. i really wanted the window to be glass to let sunlight in but with a strict budget constraint. i opted for a 2x4 frame with 3/4 marine ply on the outsite and another 2 layers of gypsum. very heavy.

salamat ng marami kay sir mikep at kay botbenz at sa iba pang nakakausap ko dito sa thread :D

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« Reply #553 on: August 08, 2013, 09:47:30 PM »
 :drool:
super like. very detailed yung process.
sarap ng pakiramdam pag may na accomplished ka sir diba. good luck
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« Reply #554 on: August 08, 2013, 09:55:46 PM »
nandito na ko sa feeling na parang di matatapos yung gastos. it needs a new sound system, a new 16 channel interface and a large led screen...

siguro 2 years pa ulit para matapos lahat ng gusto ko


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« Reply #555 on: August 08, 2013, 10:00:27 PM »
pero atleast you have plans to pursuit.
sir pa pm mo naman sakit about sa rockwool mo san ka na kamura need ko eh kahit blanket
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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #556 on: August 09, 2013, 08:11:43 PM »
fabric cover

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« Reply #557 on: August 09, 2013, 09:44:43 PM »
fabric cover


Gondoh!! Saan mo binili tela bro at anong material? Grabe ang kati sa balat niyang rockwool!!

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« Reply #558 on: August 09, 2013, 10:01:49 PM »
hindi ko alam yung tawag sa tela pero dun sa mga tindahan ng curtains sa ylaya, divisoria. similar sya sa office chair material.

yup sobrang kati pero natuto na ko. bumili din ako ng 2-piece kapote, yung long sleeves at pants ha hindi yung bikini  :mrgreen:

eto yung close up nya


limited colors lang e. white green at etong red. bibili pa ulit ako ng white para palitan yung cover ng panels ko na ilalagay sa ceiling

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« Reply #559 on: August 09, 2013, 10:56:03 PM »
2-piece kapote = win!!
Ginawa ko dati nagsuot ako ng longsleeves pang protection. Hanep lumulusot din pala yung mga hibla ng rockwool sa fabric ng longsleeves! :lol: :eek:

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« Reply #560 on: August 25, 2013, 08:14:19 PM »
now with floor. the room is officially sealed and the increase in noise reduction was noticeable.



the only thing left to do is find a supplier of true-sized wood for the walls that will comprise as hemlholtz resonators. i need to kill the flutter echo.

i also planning build a skyline diffuser from EPS (polystyrene, yung material for hot cups) i just hope the manufacturer from taguig will allow me to buy small portions.

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« Reply #561 on: August 28, 2013, 01:47:00 AM »
Sir Ask ko lang curtain lang ba talaga ginawa mu, as in wala ka nilagay??gypsum + rockwool + curtain iyun lang po ba???and ganda ng floor elegante tignan..wow!!!!

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« Reply #562 on: August 28, 2013, 12:36:55 PM »
cover lang yung tela ng rockwool. hindi pa tapos yang walls. may wood strips pa ko na ilalagay para maging hemlholtz resonator

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« Reply #563 on: August 28, 2013, 03:27:34 PM »
cover lang yung tela ng rockwool. hindi pa tapos yang walls. may wood strips pa ko na ilalagay para maging hemlholtz resonator
ah ok...sir patingin ng picture once natapos na.medyo nakukuha ko na iyung mga dapat gawin at dapat bilin .thanks so much...

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« Reply #564 on: September 23, 2013, 04:36:51 PM »
Mga sir pag maglalagay ba ng bass trap alin  ang mas importante ung corner ng wall and ceiling or ung corner na wall and wall kailangan ba from end to end ang haba like from floor to ceiling or from one corner of the room to the other end sa wall and ceiling bass trap
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« Reply #565 on: September 24, 2013, 08:38:36 PM »
Floor to ceiling, kanto ng room, front or back.  The thicker your absorptive material like glass fiber or rock wool, the lower the frequency you will be absorbing.
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« Reply #566 on: September 25, 2013, 11:32:29 AM »
Floor to ceiling, kanto ng room, front or back.  The thicker your absorptive material like glass fiber or rock wool, the lower the frequency you will be absorbing.
thanks for the reply sir
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« Reply #567 on: September 28, 2013, 01:59:00 AM »

now with floor. the room is officially sealed and the increase in noise reduction was noticeable.



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Hi sir, how much po inabot yung floor nyo and saan kayo bakabili and nagpainstall?

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« Reply #568 on: October 08, 2013, 07:38:59 PM »
cover lang yung tela ng rockwool. hindi pa tapos yang walls. may wood strips pa ko na ilalagay para maging hemlholtz resonator

Congrats sir. Ang ganda. Paano niyo gagawin yun helmholtz resonator? I have a problem in the 58-63 hz frequency. Eqing helped a little pero too much EQ suppresses the dynamics.

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« Reply #569 on: October 09, 2013, 04:01:46 AM »
How were you able to know the offending frequency?  Did you use any measurement device?  Is it booming at that frequency range?  You have modal problems.  The main problem is your room ratio (dimensions).  You have to make a Helmholtz resonator that zeroes in on those frequencies you mentioned.  A tuned box is your best solution.  You can find some designs in the net as well as the formulas and computations on how to do it.  Good luck.
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« Reply #570 on: October 09, 2013, 09:49:54 AM »
How were you able to know the offending frequency?  Did you use any measurement device?  Is it booming at that frequency range?  You have modal problems.  The main problem is your room ratio (dimensions).  You have to make a Helmholtz resonator that zeroes in on those frequencies you mentioned.  A tuned box is your best solution.  You can find some designs in the net as well as the formulas and computations on how to do it.  Good luck.

You are definitely correct. It's modal problem. Room mode due to it's dimensions.

I used an RTA to arrive at the offending frequency. Plus my familiarity with certain tracks which i use for reference. And yes, it's booming. I estimate it to be more than 6 db. I'll try to google again re Helmholtz resonator. I haven't encountered a tuned box? Though i've also researched re large hollow wood panels. I keep you posted if you don't mind.

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« Reply #571 on: October 09, 2013, 11:04:58 AM »
Did some research na.

A tuned box is your best solution.  You can find some designs in the net as well as the formulas and computations on how to do it.  Good luck.

Tuned box meaning slot resonator? Or the Panel resonator?

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« Reply #572 on: October 10, 2013, 08:03:11 PM »
You can use any to solve the problem.
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« Reply #573 on: October 16, 2013, 12:22:32 PM »
About to  make bass trap measuring 2'X4' the thickness of the rockwool available is 50mm dapat ba pagpatungin ko ung 2 block para to make it 100mm mas effective ba ung makapal,ok lang ba na lagyan ng 1/8 plywood ung likod ng frame na gagawin ko.When mounting the frame to the wall is there a standard height from the floor or kailangan nasa center ng floor and ceiling
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« Reply #574 on: October 23, 2013, 04:55:38 AM »
Anong price range pag pinagawa to sa professional? Drum room and control room na maliit lang? Typical bedroom size?