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Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2014, 04:17:25 PM »
Check the frequency response chart. Pag hifi speaker the graph is flat, pag guitar speaker may mid frequency bump.

Eto example ng sa Vintage 30



unfortunately walang ganyang sa site ng CROWN

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« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2014, 08:46:29 PM »
unfortunately. haha.
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Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2014, 11:08:04 PM »
I use starvox brand to substitute with celestion low wattage speakers. I can't remember if i bought it at lionco or deeco in raon many years ago.
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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2014, 06:12:48 AM »
I use starvox brand to substitute with celestion low wattage speakers. I can't remember if i bought it at lionco or deeco in raon many years ago.

how much?
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2014, 08:06:01 AM »
I use starvox brand to substitute with celestion low wattage speakers. I can't remember if i bought it at lionco or deeco in raon many years ago.

pwede po malaman specs? thanks
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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2014, 09:25:25 AM »
pwede po malaman specs? thanks

10" cost around 350 back then. Same specs as celestion g10l 35 but 8 ohms instead of 16.

12" cost around 480 back then. No idea on the specs though.
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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2014, 10:05:05 AM »
10" cost around 350 back then. Same specs as celestion g10l 35 but 8 ohms instead of 16.

12" cost around 480 back then. No idea on the specs though.

when was this?
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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2014, 10:13:15 AM »
Way back 2006. You can check this thread http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=16183.0 for more info. Try calling deeco in Raon first. Dai-ichi also has instrument speakers available. Cost around 700 that time.
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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2014, 10:25:19 AM »
Way back 2006. You can check this thread http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=16183.0 for more info. Try calling deeco in Raon first. Dai-ichi also has instrument speakers available. Cost around 700 that time.

thanks sir. its been a long while since I visited raon.
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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2014, 10:51:16 AM »
I remember, me and my dad salvaged an old PIGGY BASS Amp, and it was really beat up but still works..

he managed to have the speaker reconed sa raon from some guy who set up shop along the street...and my dad redid the upholstery changing the tolex to some grey speaker carpet..bought some corner plastic guards...its still working..though Im not sure if they brought it when we moved house recently..haha

its not that high fi as newer bass amps with all the nice frequencies pronounced, walang kalansing (na trip kong sound for a bass amp) but it does the trick for our jams of yesteryear..
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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2014, 10:55:38 AM »
I remember, me and my dad salvaged an old PIGGY BASS Amp, and it was really beat up but still works..

he managed to have the speaker reconed sa raon from some guy who set up shop along the street...and my dad redid the upholstery changing the tolex to some grey speaker carpet..bought some corner plastic guards...its still working..though Im not sure if they brought it when we moved house recently..haha

its not that high fi as newer bass amps with all the nice frequencies pronounced, walang kalansing (na trip kong sound for a bass amp) but it does the trick for our jams of yesteryear..

TITO GANDY :p
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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2014, 10:58:57 AM »
I remember going to Raon by myself for the first time..I wore some boysen tshirt thats shabby as f*ck..and kept my money taped to my slipper strap... fearing getting mugged..haha..

bought a cheapo mic stand that day I think...or some BMX bike parts I cant remember..haha

seriously now? Id avoid Raon or Sta.Mesa shops...as there are now more sophisticated shops and sellers all over..that have better gear products and accessories..

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« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2014, 11:03:32 AM »
I remember going to Raon by myself for the first time..I wore some boysen tshirt thats shabby as f*ck..and kept my money taped to my slipper strap... fearing getting mugged..haha..

bought a cheapo mic stand that day I think...or some BMX bike parts I cant remember..haha

seriously now? Id avoid Raon or Sta.Mesa shops...as there are now more sophisticated shops and sellers all over..that have better gear products and accessories..

I remember the sex toys they sell sa sidewalks

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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2014, 11:05:16 AM »
More of Tito Gandy, haha

I also remember when we were starting out..I got so obsessed with those cheapo ROTO amps and Drumset..a kit was like 6,000 php..and we wanted to set up a jamming studio with my bro..and I was really bummed kasi di mabili..as 6k was too big for our budget.. but you know how these stuff are..really "obscure barrio combo/ or overpass blind man playing guitar " quality and specs...

hahaha...

luckily we ended with a Fernando kit...from JB Cubao...which was 10x better...

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« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2014, 11:11:44 AM »
More of Tito Gandy, haha

I also remember when we were starting out..I got so obsessed with those cheapo ROTO amps and Drumset..a kit was like 6,000 php..and we wanted to set up a jamming studio with my bro..and I was really bummed kasi di mabili..as 6k was too big for our budget.. but you know how these stuff are..really "obscure barrio combo/ or overpass blind man playing guitar " quality and specs...

hahaha...

luckily we ended with a Fernando kit...from JB Cubao...which was 10x better...

I bought a drumset for 8k 10 years ago...so tito

but what I like about raon are the salonga music stores. everything they sell at JB is 50% cheaper. zoom multifx to laney solidstates
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« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2014, 11:14:41 AM »
I remember the sex toys they sell sa sidewalks

yeah! the classic "pilik mata ng kambing"...all there... was quite familiar with quiapo since my grandma was a black nazarene devotee and my uncle worked in a bank near the bridge where they sold those capiz and handicrafts..
well anyway... one time I drove our shiny new Vespa over there under the heat of the sun just wearing a sando, shorts and slippers...and was freaking afraid where to park the damn thing safely!

the speaker guys over there can rewind and recone fast and cheap... haha been there 4-5 years ago to checkout the photography area, hidalgo ba yun?! haha

ahhh...good old Manila... and of course..those freaking seedy,hanky panky Art Deco Movie Houses! hahaha  bought a lot of stuff there, bmx,bike stuff, military surplus gear, and music stuff..

hmmm come to think of it..lahat ng trip ko sa hobbies ko..nandun na pala lahat...

except the seedy movie houses though! hahahahahahaha

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Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2014, 11:17:12 AM »
I bought a drumset for 8k 10 years ago...so tito

but what I like about raon are the salonga music stores. everything they sell at JB is 50% cheaper. zoom multifx to laney solidstates


ahhh didnt know that one! thanks for the tip! hehe

ok tama na Tito Gandy mode.. back to Topic guys..sorry for the kwento! hahaha
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« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2014, 11:26:06 AM »
"lahat yan nasa raon" - tito
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« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2014, 03:35:15 PM »
on topic.

any other local brand and model suggestions?
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« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2014, 05:07:47 PM »
More of Tito Gandy, haha

I also remember when we were starting out..I got so obsessed with those cheapo ROTO amps and Drumset..a kit was like 6,000 php..and we wanted to set up a jamming studio with my bro..and I was really bummed kasi di mabili..as 6k was too big for our budget.. but you know how these stuff are..really "obscure barrio combo/ or overpass blind man playing guitar " quality and specs...

hahaha...

luckily we ended with a Fernando kit...from JB Cubao...which was 10x better...

buhay pa yung mga ROTO? the bass amp stayed with me for a while. i think dai-ichi young speakers nun na 15s.
and since the heads are [not too] bad, the speakers sounded dead a bit.

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Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2014, 05:12:02 PM »
buhay pa yung mga ROTO? the bass amp stayed with me for a while. i think dai-ichi young speakers nun na 15s.
and since the heads are [not too] bad, the speakers sounded dead a bit.

nakay Ging na ba yun, I think nasa kanya yata! hahaha good stuff, good times!  :wave:

bassist na ako ngayon dito Migs! nyahaha...

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« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2014, 06:32:21 PM »
Crown PA-1220 ang nilagay ko na instrumental speaker sa ginawa ko na 1 x 12 guitar cab, ok naman ang tunog.
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Re: CROWN Jackhammer Series Speakers for Guitar Cabs(?)
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2014, 07:32:17 PM »
Consider the Dai-1chi IS series instrumental speakers. Its not a big secret that Dai-1chi is an OEM for Celestion, and this series is most likely similar.

Take a look at the frequency response of the Dai-ichi IS12000 12".  Emphasis on 80Hz-5000Hz, with roll-off on the low bass and treble frequencies.  Just right for guitars.


Though I like the frequency response graph of the IS10000 10" better.  Smoother on the upper midrange, and no spikes on the treble.


I'm pretty sure they're not as cheap as the brands mentioned earlier, but at least its not hit-and-miss.  With the response graphs above, there is good indication that its fit for guitars.

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« Reply #48 on: December 11, 2014, 02:43:46 AM »
Napadaan ako sa DEECO Farmers Plaza kanina. 895 pesos yung Crown PA-1220. 

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« Reply #49 on: December 11, 2014, 06:30:07 AM »
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