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Offline musicianurse28

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Big Kit or Small Kit
« on: August 31, 2016, 01:41:34 AM »
For long time drummers who grow old drumming, which do you prefer nowadays after years and years of drumming?

I've been playing the drums since year 1999, I also experienced both monster and 4pcs kits. Either are fun to play.

But I noticed as I age, I want a simpler kit. So I bought a Ludwig Breakbeats last year. I'm torn wether or not to sell my 6pcs Gretsch Catalina Maple or just keep it.

I also think that the simpler the kit, the better. I'm not saying that playing a small kit means you're more talented, less talented, better, or worse than someone who plays a larger kit. It's just that for me, I think (now that I'm almost 30-ish), smaller kit has less distraction than larger ones. We can focus on one lick, fills, groove, skill, in million different ways with it. Yes, we can apply this with the big ones (with lots of options and freedom) as well. But I think downsizing to a lesser piece bring out the best in our creative mind/skill by making the most out of a small kit. Then what more if we apply it to the big ones?

Hmmm.. Your thoughts? Prefered kit?

Disclaimer: I'm not starting a debate between playing big or small kit. It's just that I want to know if you guys also feel the same like I do as we grow old. Going to a simpler kit. Or is it just me?


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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2016, 02:04:16 AM »
Largest kit my drumming talent can accommodate is 4 toms, 1 bass drum (my double bass technique sucks), 1 snare (I don't know what the hell to do with an aux snare), 1 hi hat ( I don't know what the hell to do with an aux hat), 2 crashes, a ride, and maybe a china (yeah I don't know what the hell to do with a splash either, hahaha). I don't know what the hell to do with 8 inch or smaller toms. I may play 20 inch toms, but maybe not often.

When I got older (because I got better at control) I learned to play quiet gigs with a kick+snare+hat+ride setup, and then later a kick+snare+ride setup, and later a kick+snare+brush setup (no cymbals) and snare+brush only setup. All of which sounds better than a kahon, if you ask me.
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2016, 09:51:25 AM »
haha I feel you bro.
Nakakatuwa may monster kit pero its just more of reality sinking in na pag nag gig ka kasi simple setup lang
ang magagamit mo. For me 2 racks and floor sa bahay pero given a chance na smaller kit i would.
and bigger kits are harder to clean. (the matanda speaking) :-D :-D
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2016, 12:23:59 PM »
used to have a 3 rack tom (10/12/13), 2 Floor Tom (14/16) 2 snare (13 Piccolo/14 regular), 20 Bass Drum setup, coupled with 14 Hats, 16/18/20 Crashes, 21 Ride, 18 China, 6/8/10 Splashes and a 12 China Splash

that was during college, panay practice lang sa bahay hahaha tapos napansin ko, pag gig, naiilang akong pumalo kasi nagdecrease ang setup to a 4 piece (2 tom, snare + bass) I downsized my setup as well.

lately, ang preference ko ay 10 inch tom, 14 inch floor tom, 13 piccolo, 20 bassdrum, 14 hats, 18 crash, 21 ride, 16 crash, 10 splash.

parehas naming okay sakin. ang plus lang talga para sakin ng mas maliit na setup ay ang faster setup and teardown time hahahaha =))
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2016, 03:07:26 PM »
LOL at the "matanda speaking". Hahahaha! :eek:

Di ba? Pag tumatanda na talaga napapa-isip ka na kung alin ba talaga ang "dapat" eh, ang "sapat lang", at ang "kailangan lang". Medyo napapa-isip tuloy ako, looking back sa mga lumipas na taon kung gaano ako ka-hayok sa GAS. Wrong move. Hirap magbawas ng gears pa naman ngayon. "Parang walang pera mga tao" ika nga ni boss Pao with regard sa pagbenta ng 2nd hand items.

Maganda monster kit talaga. Para kang may signature setup eh. Mas maganda pa nga yan kung anak tayo ni Henry Sy. Hehe.

Pero kung titignan din, may beauty rin naman talaga sa simpleng setup. Minsan pag napapatingin tayo sa simpleng setup parang mas may marame pa tayong magagawa kesa sa big setup eh. Naramdaman niyo na yon? Yung sa simple lahat mapapalo mo pero yung sa big kit hindi lahat magagamit mo.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2016, 10:46:15 AM »
Seryoso nabibigatan na nga ako magdala ng cymbals for gig ngayon hahaha
ayoko na magdala ng snare. hahaha or iniisip ko bumili ng piccolo kaso wala naman weight yung sa gig pag di nakamic haha
anyway ginawa ko na yan last two years. pinakawalan ko na speed cobra ko,a few cymbals more,tapos bumili na lang ako
camco na pedal for gigs. hahaha. gusto ko pa nga pakawalan snare ko kaso masyadong barat mga tao. isipin mo brand new with box
na joey gusto presyo ng 2nd hand.
Anyway naiiba na din siguro priorities natin kaya ganun. :lol:
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2016, 10:56:40 AM »
Seryoso nabibigatan na nga ako magdala ng cymbals for gig ngayon hahaha
ayoko na magdala ng snare. hahaha or iniisip ko bumili ng piccolo kaso wala naman weight yung sa gig pag di nakamic haha
anyway ginawa ko na yan last two years. pinakawalan ko na speed cobra ko,a few cymbals more,tapos bumili na lang ako
camco na pedal for gigs. hahaha. gusto ko pa nga pakawalan snare ko kaso masyadong barat mga tao. isipin mo brand new with box
na joey gusto presyo ng 2nd hand.
Anyway naiiba na din siguro priorities natin kaya ganun. :lol:


down to 14 Hats, 10 Splash, 16/18 Crash at 21 Ride nalang ang cymbals ko ngayon hahaha snare ko is a 14 x 5 Birch para lang flexible hahaha tska single pedal na elims hahaha

kung gumigig pa ako eh baka binili ko yang JJ sayo.
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: Big Kit or Small Kit
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2016, 09:56:17 PM »
Seryoso nabibigatan na nga ako magdala ng cymbals for gig ngayon hahaha
ayoko na magdala ng snare. hahaha or iniisip ko bumili ng piccolo kaso wala naman weight yung sa gig pag di nakamic haha
anyway ginawa ko na yan last two years. pinakawalan ko na speed cobra ko,a few cymbals more,tapos bumili na lang ako
camco na pedal for gigs. hahaha. gusto ko pa nga pakawalan snare ko kaso masyadong barat mga tao. isipin mo brand new with box
na joey gusto presyo ng 2nd hand.
Anyway naiiba na din siguro priorities natin kaya ganun. :lol:

Wala nang mas tototoo pa. #WalangPoreberr talaga! Everything's changing. :eek: :cry:

Oo masyado barat mga tao ngayon sa 2nd hand gears kaya pahirapan rin magbenta. Well, siguro hindi rin naman din nila priority talaga.
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Re: Big Kit or Small Kit
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2016, 02:19:42 AM »
same here sir...

monster kit for cabinet/shelves
jungle kit for daily use...

tsaka parang ang gandang tingnan ng jungle kit, cute... haha

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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2016, 12:11:57 PM »
same here sir...

monster kit for cabinet/shelves
jungle kit for daily use...

tsaka parang ang gandang tingnan ng jungle kit, cute... haha

Hahaha! Oo nga, para sa mga Like-A-Tito-Drummers like me parang mas preferred na yung Monster Kit nasa cabinet na lang at small kit na lang naka setup.

Tsaka oo cute sila tignan pag naka setup. Parang ang neat tignan, ang sarap upuan.

One thing I noticed, mas focused ang learning sa grooves and time keeping pag small setup eh (which is a good thing, kesa puro chops di naman maka-poste). Ika nga, "Less is More". Sarap tuloy mag drums ngayon!
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2016, 06:59:46 PM »
At home I have a 22"double kick set up with a 12" rack and 16" floor along with cheap entry level cymbals since it's only for practice. On gigs that require bringing a kit I just grab my 16" floor tom and convert it to a kick drum then add 10" rack and 13" floor tom then I use my better sounding cymbals. Worked for me the last 5 years. On that note I agree "Jungle" kits can deliver great results as much as a regular sized kit and they do make you look cool too.  8-)
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2016, 11:50:49 AM »
Kahit noong estudyante palang ako sa pagtatambol nakasanayan ko na yung 4 piece kit, mag iba man yung sizes still 4 piece pa din. nanibago lang ako one time nung nakapag jam ako sa isang studio near sa school ko (ewan ko kung alam niyo) near RTU boni and PLDT siguro 6 toms 2 kick 2 hi hat with aux pa at 8 cymbals! Aaminin ko nabobo ako pero yung feeling na nakakacreate ka ng variations ng tunog mo sa dami ng pinapalo mo.

Pero, 4 piece pa din ako. planning a Project 4 piece kit this christmas habang may kuwarta pa  :-D
Wala ka na nga hitsura, wala ka pa diskarte. Wala ka talaga.

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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2016, 11:55:49 AM »
doubled post
Wala ka na nga hitsura, wala ka pa diskarte. Wala ka talaga.

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2016, 02:18:49 PM »
Kahit noong estudyante palang ako sa pagtatambol nakasanayan ko na yung 4 piece kit, mag iba man yung sizes still 4 piece pa din. nanibago lang ako one time nung nakapag jam ako sa isang studio near sa school ko (ewan ko kung alam niyo) near RTU boni and PLDT siguro 6 toms 2 kick 2 hi hat with aux pa at 8 cymbals! Aaminin ko nabobo ako pero yung feeling na nakakacreate ka ng variations ng tunog mo sa dami ng pinapalo mo.

Pero, 4 piece pa din ako. planning a Project 4 piece kit this christmas habang may kuwarta pa  :-D

i want a big kit for my own pero syempre mas ok sa gig yung small kit lang.
Naalala ko din with your same experience may nameet kaming drummer sa taiwan dinala kame sa
studio niya may super kit din parang sayo. mejo nawindang ang coordination skills ko kasi di sanay mata ko sa ganung
bagay hahaha.
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2016, 04:16:34 PM »
i want a big kit for my own pero syempre mas ok sa gig yung small kit lang.
Naalala ko din with your same experience may nameet kaming drummer sa taiwan dinala kame sa
studio niya may super kit din parang sayo. mejo nawindang ang coordination skills ko kasi di sanay mata ko sa ganung
bagay hahaha.
Nakakatakaw mata lang yung malaking kit kasi ang angas mo sa pktyur pag naka upo ka sa harap ☺
Wala ka na nga hitsura, wala ka pa diskarte. Wala ka talaga.