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« Reply #75 on: December 02, 2017, 11:54:35 PM »
Alex, I don't think it would be fair to compare the Mesa to the Katana. The Katana is in a class that didn't exist back in the 80s (to the best I know). The most would be to file them under the sub-$1000 price point, but even then that's a nebulous category.

If sound alone, it might not chalk up to a good tube amp for understandable reasons. If you base it on feature set, you're going to have to compare it to the Line 6 Spider, the Blackstar ID60, and the Fender Mustang Amp. It may be better than those if you're doing apples to apples.

Anyway, I heard a Katana once at a show and while it sounded good for what it was, my attention was squarely on the Orange Dual Terror on the other side of the room as it just sounded better to my ears. Modeling amps have gotten better sounding, but right now I'd still prefer to go with a no-nonsense SS amp like the Orange CR120 if we're talking about amps on a budget.

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thats why i said over and over again , what suits you and what works for your ears :)

btw someones gotta give  :lol:
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« Reply #76 on: December 02, 2017, 11:56:42 PM »
Alex, I don't think it would be fair to compare the Mesa to the Katana.

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what he said

ps: I also like this  :)



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« Reply #77 on: December 03, 2017, 05:36:58 AM »
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thats why i said over and over again , what suits you and what works for your ears :)

btw someones gotta give  :lol:

Well obviously, I have gotta give because its a fun thread.  And I can surely predict, when the flavor of the month is over, most on this thread will proceed to the next best thing when it comes out.  For me, Boss and Roland are not known for their amps.  They are not known for being robust or even sounding exemplary.

I dislike the roland jazz chorus because there are other great sounding CLEAN tube amps specially from boutique manufacturers and combining them with an old CE1 floats my boat.  The price point is scarier because it screams china made crap that will give up soon.

As I use to say before, some ears are better than others....

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« Reply #78 on: December 03, 2017, 05:41:35 AM »
+1

what he said

ps: I also like this  :)



I also want to try this JP signature AND compare it with a REAL Mark 2C+.  That's how I treat the hype.  I have heard one REAL Mark 2C+ and it was really loud.  But I found it stiff.  I attributed that to the KOA cabinet of which only two were made by Mesa Boogie.  It was heavy because of the solid KOA cabinet.

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« Reply #79 on: December 04, 2017, 07:57:25 AM »
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thats why i said over and over again , what suits you and what works for your ears :)

btw someones gotta give  :lol:

I likey!!! Twice.

Yup, got to try the 100 watt 1x12 model  And I like it.

Its even better than Blue Cube Artist which is twice the price.

Mayroon siyang lambot na wala ang mga ibang amps.  Usually you need to open up a tube amp at loud volumes to get that lambot.

Effects are also OK.  Parang you don't need other effects pedals.

Cons: Does not have the 'big' sound of a tube amp.  It might be tricky matching the head.  Better to go for both combos.  Might not match up with boutique tube amps in terms of volume.  There is still a certain compression -- sterility -- that great tube amps do not have.

Unknowns: Since its the first amp by boss -- first serious endeavor at least; I cannot say about its reliability and endurance. 

Conclusion: Go for it if you need a practice amp or beginning guitar.  Is it something to stick to?  Nope.  Its good but does not have that WOW factor.

P.S. Unit is Made in Malaysia and NOT China.  I might prefer Taiwan over Malaysia but either way, construction looks MEH.   I mean its cheap (better value for money) relative to some of the Chinese crap that looks like crap.  But not on the level of USA made.
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« Reply #80 on: December 04, 2017, 09:31:49 AM »
Yep. It won't get that big tube compression an high volume. I tried it wide open Master at 10 and it sounds a bit bigger than the other SS amps at that master level. May ginawa yatang ok sa DSP ang Boss sa power amp para maging loose yung feeling ng amp as you go higher volume on the master knob. I found out that as you go up the master you have to go down on the gain like a real world amp.

Otherwise, at full volume the SS clipping is there. A bigger power amp headroom should afford it more ooomph.

It gets the job done better compared to its competition. The new Line 6 spider Vs don't have that warm bounce and crunch that the Katana has.


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« Reply #81 on: December 11, 2017, 11:09:57 AM »
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« Reply #82 on: December 15, 2017, 10:37:24 PM »
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« Reply #83 on: December 19, 2017, 08:48:36 AM »
How does it fare in a live setting? The main gripe I have about most modeling amps is that for some reason, they really can't cut through a drummer and another guitarist even with the mids maxed out at times.
I'd rather be sharp than flat.

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« Reply #84 on: December 21, 2017, 07:42:01 PM »
How does it fare in a live setting? The main gripe I have about most modeling amps is that for some reason, they really can't cut through a drummer and another guitarist even with the mids maxed out at times.

t=74s

In my exprience, it cuts fine live assuming you have nice speakers. It is voiced quite middy and pretty bright to begin with.

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« Reply #85 on: January 03, 2018, 05:12:40 PM »
Just purchased the Katana 50 for a practice amp in my flat. It’s always set to 0.5 watt and even that, the master volume is always at 9 o’clock because it’s still too loud for my use.

Pretty nice amp for practice purposes, and I don’t have any plans of gigging it because I don’t gig. Di na ako talo, it’s effing cheap and has many effects, and you can access other amp sims via ‘sneakyamps’ and ‘katanaflooaps’ program.

I chose it over the heavier VoxAC4 C1 and C1 -112.. coz it’s cheaper and lighter to carry back to my flat.
I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones

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« Reply #86 on: January 03, 2018, 06:36:26 PM »
Just purchased the Katana 50 for a practice amp in my flat. It’s always set to 0.5 watt and even that, the master volume is always at 9 o’clock because it’s still too loud for my use.

Pretty nice amp for practice purposes, and I don’t have any plans of gigging it because I don’t gig. Di na ako talo, it’s effing cheap and has many effects, and you can access other amp sims via ‘sneakyamps’ and ‘katanaflooaps’ program.

I chose it over the heavier VoxAC4 C1 and C1 -112.. coz it’s cheaper and lighter to carry back to my flat.

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« Reply #87 on: January 04, 2018, 01:21:58 PM »
Any thoughts on how the Master and Volume knobs should be set?

Saw in one site that the Master should be set to max, while dialing the Volume to taste. On some sites, they say Boss recommends the opposite -> Volume maxed while adjusting the master to your needs.

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« Reply #88 on: January 06, 2018, 11:38:13 PM »
Any thoughts on how the Master and Volume knobs should be set?

Saw in one site that the Master should be set to max, while dialing the Volume to taste. On some sites, they say Boss recommends the opposite -> Volume maxed while adjusting the master to your needs.

I think just try both and hear what sounds better to you.. dont think it will have a detrimental effect to the amp.

I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones

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« Reply #89 on: January 07, 2018, 05:45:26 AM »
I think just try both and hear what sounds better to you.. dont think it will have a detrimental effect to the amp.

You're right. As far as I can tell it doesn't seem to make any difference. Maybe it'll only make a difference at loud volumes.

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« Reply #90 on: January 08, 2018, 04:48:17 AM »
Any thoughts on how the Master and Volume knobs should be set?

Saw in one site that the Master should be set to max, while dialing the Volume to taste. On some sites, they say Boss recommends the opposite -> Volume maxed while adjusting the master to your needs.

I always set Master vol at 50%. Gives me that nice sag. You will notice that as you go up the master volume, you get more resonance dsp from the poweramp that makes it sound better. It works like a tube amp. Go up with the master and you get some "simulated" power amp distortion. The lower it is, the tighter and thinner the sound.

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« Reply #91 on: January 08, 2018, 02:36:05 PM »
Ohhh nice discussion and feedbacks. Isa to sa mga options ko pra sa modeler ko as my stage monitor (if ever makakasampa sa stage). Or something magamit at higher volumes.

Luckily, this and two other familiar speaker brands (EV, Alto) ay nasa isang shop dito sa dubai. And when budget permits, mabalakikan, test and makapg uwi ng isa sa kanila.



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« Reply #92 on: January 08, 2018, 05:15:37 PM »
I always set Master vol at 50%. Gives me that nice sag. You will notice that as you go up the master volume, you get more resonance dsp from the poweramp that makes it sound better. It works like a tube amp. Go up with the master and you get some "simulated" power amp distortion. The lower it is, the tighter and thinner the sound.

Salamat sir. I appreciate it. Will test it the moment i get home. Hehehe

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« Reply #93 on: January 09, 2018, 02:17:45 AM »
It was nice testing the Katana against the Mesa Boogie JP2C. Im gassing for the cab after that. Ang ganda ng response ng Katana high gain models sa Mesa Celestion V30.
My other cab is 16ohms so the Katana isnt making full 100w. This mesa vertical 2x12 is 8ohms kaya ramdam ko difference.



Pero syempre talo pa rin laban sa magandang tube amp hahaa. Pero puwede na. It is loud enough and cuts through the mix ok.

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« Reply #94 on: January 09, 2018, 02:41:09 AM »
It was nice testing the Katana against the Mesa Boogie JP2C. Im gassing for the cab after that. Ang ganda ng response ng Katana high gain models sa Mesa Celestion V30.
My other cab is 16ohms so the Katana isnt making full 100w. This mesa vertical 2x12 is 8ohms kaya ramdam ko difference.



Pero syempre talo pa rin laban sa magandang tube amp hahaa. Pero puwede na. It is loud enough and cuts through the mix ok.

woa!!! dream equipment! Sarap saguro gamitin nyan  :drool: :drool: :drool:
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« Reply #95 on: January 09, 2018, 03:33:08 AM »
woa!!! dream equipment! Sarap saguro gamitin nyan  :drool: :drool: :drool:

sarap nga. kuhang kuha classic metallica sound at ang glassy ng clean tones. mahal lang talaga hahaha! perfect gigging amp kasi ang solid ng midi switching.

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« Reply #96 on: January 09, 2018, 07:32:27 AM »
sarap nga. kuhang kuha classic metallica sound at ang glassy ng clean tones. mahal lang talaga hahaha! perfect gigging amp kasi ang solid ng midi switching.

As I said before, I like this amp as a beginner guitar amp and I bought a 2x12 for my ina anak which I felt will save him years of GAS... :) but sorry to say that the Katana does NOT have the dimensionality and big sound of great sounding tube amps.  Also, its less expressive compared to great sounding boutique tube amps.

That being said, solid state or whatever katana is, is never better than now.  By the way, I have several Jackson Soloists Made in the USA with modifications so its not about the guitar.

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« Reply #97 on: January 09, 2018, 03:08:14 PM »
Quite an interesting, informative thread!

I have been contemplating giving up all my beginner amps - tube amp heads and ss combos - and replace them all with either just the Katana or BluesCube Artist.

But after reading this thread, and Alex's inputs, I'm not sure I want either amp anymore. Not sure either is a substantial upgrade over my Cube 60 or BluesCube 30 which still service my simple dirty blues tone requirements.

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« Reply #98 on: January 09, 2018, 04:16:07 PM »
Quite an interesting, informative thread!

I have been contemplating giving up all my beginner amps - tube amp heads and ss combos - and replace them all with either just the Katana or BluesCube Artist.

But after reading this thread, and Alex's inputs, I'm not sure I want either amp anymore. Not sure either is a substantial upgrade over my Cube 60 or BluesCube 30 which still service my simple dirty blues tone requirements.

Another point I would like to make IS -- I don't know its durability.  So, thats one reason to keep your Cube 60 or Blues Cube 30 for gigging.  Again, if I were a beginner at home and I wish this product was available back in 1989; I would definitely love it.  But if you love tone and expression, and get your tone from your hands there are better alternatives.

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« Reply #99 on: January 09, 2018, 04:21:25 PM »
Quite an interesting, informative thread!

I have been contemplating giving up all my beginner amps - tube amp heads and ss combos - and replace them all with either just the Katana or BluesCube Artist.

But after reading this thread, and Alex's inputs, I'm not sure I want either amp anymore. Not sure either is a substantial upgrade over my Cube 60 or BluesCube 30 which still service my simple dirty blues tone requirements.

I can definitely say that it sounds better than the Cubes. Although, magkaiba feature set. Pero yun nga, baka tama si Alex na mas matibay Cube. This is my first time owning an amp from Malaysia. My Katana head feels sturdy though.

By the way, I have several Jackson Soloists Made in the USA with modifications so its not about the guitar.

My CS Soloists sound different compared to the Japanese dinkies through it. I can say that the differences and nuances do come across.  Pag sa Line 6 parang Nye! Plakda yung response.