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Offline Kennyadry

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« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2019, 08:55:29 AM »
savior ng OPM? namatay ba?

According to these articles ...it is being implied that it is dying.
https://newsbits.mb.com.ph/2017/07/30/who-killed-opm/
http://varsitarian.net/circle/20120513/now_and_then_is_opm_going_extinct

Although some articles may find ways to reason out it is still alive and well
https://www.rappler.com/entertainment/music/49260-radio-republic-opm-alive

Pero mahirap i deny na mas dumami ang tumangkilik sa musica ng ibang bansa (k-pop, jpop, ed sheeran, bruno mars, etc.) kaysa sa OPM
https://smartboxph.wixsite.com/arts-culture/opm-fighting-for-survival

magsasawa ka sa underground ng OPM. lawakan mo pananaw mo TS.

Brod, hindi ko sinasabi na walang magagaling sa underground ng OPM.
My personal favorite OPM artist is Crowns Down and it's because of their guitarist na si Jojo Garbilao. I'm pretty sure kaonti lang nakakalam nitong bandang ito, kung skills lang and musicality ang pag-uusapan, malayo ang IVOS nito, but unfortunately, hindi sila sikat.

Wag ka mabulag sa kagwapuhan ng IVOS (kahit tatlo lang sila).

Ikaw lang ang nagsabi nyan brod.
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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2019, 09:03:06 AM »


dying pero hindi dead as in patay na. nasa tamang oras at lugar lang ang ivos. mas trip ko pa nga si Unique nung nag-solo eh
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« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2019, 10:11:44 AM »

dying pero hindi dead as in patay na. nasa tamang oras at lugar lang ang ivos. mas trip ko pa nga si Unique nung nag-solo eh

Yes you are right, at least ngayon, hindi na kpop at jpop at ed sheeran ang tinitilian ng karamihan.
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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2019, 01:38:28 PM »
Yes you are right, at least ngayon, hindi na kpop at jpop at ed sheeran ang tinitilian ng karamihan.


antayin mo ko, hindi pa sumisikat laos na  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2019, 03:32:22 PM »
Sorry sir ha, but mas sanay akong mag type sa English. But I'll try to type it in tagalog.

I understand the point na baka ma misinterpret..but can you cite my grammatical mistake resulting to your misinterpretation?
parang di ka naman masyadong sanay :D lol.
next time nalang. madami dami din eh.



Good observation on the pentatonics, 4/4 measure and singing quality.

But I find ivos songs technically more complex than jk.
The guitar riffs were more well crafted and the basslines and drums were arranged cleaner for ivos in my opinion.
And I think IVOS have better dynamics compared to JK.
But it could be that my personal judgment is affected by the fact that IVOS has more songs than JK.

Fair enough observations.
while it may be true that the studio versions of IVOS songs sound better and cleaner than JK.
However, we have to remember that a studio recording is affected by a lot of factors and that it's not only the artist you are "hearing".
the studio recording is a product of the artist, the producers and the engineers.

Hence my statement earlier that they are pretty much are at par, in terms of skills, in terms of being the artists.
kasi kung studio recording lang tayo babase, maaaring ang mas magaling eh yung producer kaya mas gusto mo yung songs nung isa.


Your "pogi" thing, I believe is more applicable to JK than to the IVOS. Di hamak na mas maraming nagtitiliang babae kay JK everytime he sings buwan.

eh... di mo pa nga sila napapanood maglive diba? JK or IVOS?
Dumog ng female fans ang IVOS shows sir.
Sa kanila ko lang nakita yung nagiiyakang mga babaeng teenage fans na nagtatantrum sa mga magulang nila pag di pinayagang manood ng gig ng IVOS.
I highly encourage you watch their live gigs as well. both JK and IVOS.

No I haven't. Youtube lang. Does it disqualify me from giving my 2 cents?

No it doesn't disqualify you, pero it sure does lessens the credibility.
kasi it shows na hindi ka nakakanood ng gigs ng iba't ibang local artists kaya hasty ka to make the statement, or agree with the statement na "IVOS is the savior of OPM"
as I've mentioned in my previous posts, not that I am discrediting the skills of IVOS, pero really andaming solid mas magaling sakanila, hindi lang kasing sikat kasi nga, walang ganung klaseng break or connections.
no producer, no manager, no label.

Pasensya na kung hindi mo naintindihan ang English ko sir ;)
thanks fine, mas naiintindihan na kita ngayon. :)

But I still insist I was clear from the beginning. And  I don't think my grammar is the problem, if you can quote my grammatical mistakes resulting to your misinterpretation, then I will properly accept it :) but take note ha, "grammatical mistake resulting to your misinterpretation"
insist mo pa, eh andami na ngang nagreact sa post mo dito :)
to err is human :)


People means mass of people not just "a particular group of people"....I based this definition of people solely on these facts..
Mundo is No. 1 both on the Spotify Global Charts and Spotify Philippines Daily Charts. (2018)
Nominees for Best Southeast Asian Act at this year’s MTV Europe Music Awards (EMAs). (2018)

And again, baka ma mis interpret mo naman...I put the word, "if" before the word "people"..It's a conditional clause..I am not saying that the people have already said it. It is "My Assumption" that "if" people call them the savior I would accept it.
eto nanaman yung flawed logic  eh. number 1 sa charts, nominees sa music awards.
by that train of thought kasi mangyayari niyan nagnumber din ang "What The Fox Say" ni Ylvis sa Charts.
Savior na rin si Ylvis ganon?

I did not defend them since I know it's only my opinion. I dont know what you're saying about me being defensive. Your misinterpretation has took a toll on you. I have always said that calling them (IVOS) the OPM's savior "is my opinion".
And if people (please don't let me redefine this again) accept them as the OPM's savior, I would accept it.

hindi ko na tlga ipapadefine sayo ito kasi hindi mo talaga mapapaliwanag ng maayos :Daily
to begin with nga kasi, the logic is flawed.
dinedepensahan mo nanaman sarili mo na kesyo ako lang nagmimisinterpret ng mga statements mo eh kita mo naman lahat ng taong nagreply dito na tuliling sa OPM Savior conditional clause mo :D


Are there any bands better than them (IVOS)? YES for SURE
Are there any bands worth listening than them? Certainly yes

But I am not aware (yet) of any band who have created a certainly huge bandwagon effect such as the IVOS

https://www.bandwagon.asia/articles/iv-of-spades-ayala-solenad-mall-show-concert-fans
naks with sources hahaha
it's from the internet, so it must be facts! :D

kung bandwagon nga lang pinaguusapan, dami dami tols.
not saying they are worth listening to ha, pero yung Ex-Batallion yun bandwagon din solid.
depende nalang kung ano ulit depinisyon mo ng bandwagon.


I never said IVOS is a genre,... please...stop misrepresenting my posts
linawin mo kasi pagpopost mo.
there's no other way to interpret your statements other than a literal or word for word basis dahil forum ito.
now what I've been saying since post 1, state your points clearly.


The last time I checked, fliptop is the term they call for rap battle.(https://tl.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlipTop)
So kailan pa to naging group of rappers?
uhm... sino po kasali sa Fliptop? diba mga rapper?
yan kasi puro wikipedia at google search ginagamit mong source.
based on the previous post i made pertaining to logic, I was referring to the contestants included in FlipTop. The rappers.
so yug kasali sa fliptop, pinasikat nila ulit yung OPM Hiphop genre, so saviors of OPM hiphop na rin sila?

o baka ngayon ako parin ang nagiisang nagmimisinterpret ha. :D

If you can probably mention an OPM Hiphop group that has songs "people" are listening to. Then I can probably understand now your point.
Arists of FlipMusic: LDP, Abra, June Marieezy, Rjay
EX-B, Smugglaz, BLKD

daming niyang sikat ngayon.
either way, sobrang humahaba na tong usapang to.
wala naman itong katapusan, at the end of this discussion, you're still putting IVOS on the top of the pedestal.

my final point is this:
Go out, watch more gigs, watch and listen to more unknown artists.
OPM is so not dead and dying.
it's just that people are lazy to find ways to listen and instead, just say that its dead.
nasanay kasi tayo puro YOUTUBE, SPOTIFY or LoveRadio nalang.

We forget that the music played on the radio and mainstream listening sites are not the only ones left for OPM.
OPM is rich in talent. hindi lang lahat nabigyan ng mainstream avenue to showcase.

hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha


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« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2019, 02:24:57 AM »
OT: di na ako nagbasa kasi nakakahilo sa dami ng replies.

BTT: going back to the topic, IVOS as OPM savior? Nah.. kalokohan. Have you already explored the indie scene today? Have you been to live gigs recently? Ever heard of Tom's Story? How about Peryodiko? (if the case was musical package)

Kennyadry, start exploring. Not because we told you, but for you to widen your knowledge about OPM. OPM doesn't need just a savior. It need heroes. Not just a man but men of talent, skills, dedication and hardwork.
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« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2019, 04:10:46 AM »
Namiss ko yung ganitong klaseng discussion na may quote then response, yung Matanglawin days.  :idea:
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« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2019, 01:53:12 PM »
Ung looks nila ngaun dko na makilala. C zild pa rin ba un. Namayat ba sya or what?  Parang lumiit cla.. haha.. mahina pa naman ako makarecognize. Cla pa rin ba un.

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« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2019, 01:36:32 PM »
next time nalang. madami dami din eh.

- madami-dami pero ni isa hindi maka point out. What a lame excuse.

Hence my statement earlier that they are pretty much are at par, in terms of skills, in terms of being the artists.
kasi kung studio recording lang tayo babase, maaaring ang mas magaling eh yung producer kaya mas gusto mo yung songs nung isa.

- If the IVOS's producer and sound engineer have made it appear to the listener/viewer that IVOS talent is better than JK, then kudos to them.

- If the JK's producer and sound engineer have made it appear to the listener/viewer that JK's talent is worse than IVOS, then they should be really looking for better replacements.

- But watching JK live (Yes I did watch JK band live, I find Juan Karlos guitar playing messy (for the lack of a better term)...the least I could say is unrefined. The other instrumentalists are good, particularly the lead guitar and the bassist..but their lead singer is messing up with his instruments...I really like him as a performer and a singer though.
- I could only say IVOS have better playing (instruments) based on what I see on youtube with their live performances. And yes I admit it's not a good thing to compare youtube (for IVOS) and live (JK). But I can't help but compare

eh... di mo pa nga sila napapanood maglive diba? JK or IVOS?

- IVOS I didn't
- JK the band, I did, twice, here in Cebu (I missed stating this on my previous post, so it's my bad). So when I say nagtitiliang babae, It's not youtube base of course. More or less 90% of the crowd (Base on what my eyes saw) were, females
- Siguro Cebuano females are biased towards JK kasi Cebuano sya So biased din ang mga cebuana for him. Naging kapitbahay ko rin si JK sa Consolacion 6 years ago before his "the voice years". I've seen his younger years until his present musical career. SO when I say nagtitilian ang mga babae, I literally hear their screams
- but fair enough, I can't have the appropriacy of comparison since I haven't watch the other band live.

insist mo pa, eh andami na ngang nagreact sa post mo dito :)
to err is human :) dinedepensahan mo nanaman sarili mo na kesyo ako lang nagmimisinterpret ng mga statements mo eh kita mo naman lahat ng taong nagreply dito na tuliling sa OPM Savior conditional clause mo :D

- Non sequitur. It does not mean that the forumist are misinterpreting it, makes my post err with grammatical mistakes.

- Again, I already admitted that my post can be misinterpreted, but to say that it contains "grammatical error" which resulted to their misinterpretation is totally a different story.

eto nanaman yung flawed logic eh. number 1 sa charts, nominees sa music awards.
by that train of thought kasi mangyayari niyan nagnumber din ang "What The Fox Say" ni Ylvis sa Charts.
Savior na rin si Ylvis ganon?

-Grabi na man to oh...nasingit pa si Ylvis eh di na man OPM to. Unless you would contend that Ylvis is an OPM artist, mag iiba na naman ang usapan dyan.

naks with sources hahaha
it's from the internet, so it must be facts!

- haha, ikaw lang nag sabi nyan. Neither did I say those were facts or non-facts

kung bandwagon nga lang pinaguusapan, dami dami tols.
not saying they are worth listening to ha, pero yung Ex-Batallion yun bandwagon din solid.
depende nalang kung ano ulit depinisyon mo ng bandwagon.

- "IF " (again conditional clause) Ex-Batallion has gotten the attention of the Filipinos away from foreign artists, then yes,...consider him part of my definition of being an "OPM" savior.

- The point that I am making is not whether the IVOS are the best artists in the Philippines. NO not yet. They're still far from that in my opinion.

- But are they taking back the filipino crowd from - Kpop, Jpop, Ed Sheeran, and so on ...back to the Filipino music? In my observation IVOS is doing that.

yan kasi puro wikipedia at google search ginagamit mong source.

- The only thing that can make the conversation be understood clearly is when people have "common grounds" on the definition of the terms being used. If people define terms differently, there is no common ground. The reason I chose to use wiki source is to at least confirm from you kung pareho ba tayo ng definition. Wala talagang klaro kung iba yung sayo. Logic won't work if we think of these terms differently.

Arists of FlipMusic: LDP, Abra, June Marieezy, Rjay
EX-B, Smugglaz, BLKD

- I haven't observe a mass of filipino people following any of these groups. I know some of them, since my brother is a fan of this kind of thing. But yeah, "IF" these groups are getting the attention of Filipinos away from foreign artists, then yes,...consider him part of my definition of being an "OPM" savior.

my final point is this:
Go out, watch more gigs, watch and listen to more unknown artists.
OPM is so not dead and dying.
it's just that people are lazy to find ways to listen and instead, just say that its dead.
nasanay kasi tayo puro YOUTUBE, SPOTIFY or LoveRadio nalang.

- and this is my final point. Probably my final reply.
I know lots of really good local artists and I am sympathetic towards the fact that they are not getting a shot at fame.

And NO, IVOS is not the best OPM band for me, their skill are still far from what I consider the best.

BUT, I am happy that they are taking the attention of the mass filipino back to OPM away from foreign music.
This, I believe is good for the music industry in the Philippines.


« Last Edit: April 10, 2019, 01:40:59 PM by Kennyadry »
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« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2019, 01:41:45 PM »
OT: di na ako nagbasa kasi nakakahilo sa dami ng replies.

BTT: going back to the topic, IVOS as OPM savior? Nah.. kalokohan. Have you already explored the indie scene today? Have you been to live gigs recently? Ever heard of Tom's Story? How about Peryodiko? (if the case was musical package)

Kennyadry, start exploring. Not because we told you, but for you to widen your knowledge about OPM. OPM doesn't need just a savior. It need heroes. Not just a man but men of talent, skills, dedication and hardwork.

See my reply to red lights. I can't repeat my self a lot. Time is limited.
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« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2019, 02:03:15 PM »
rpelyan ko lang ng isa yung todo denial ka parin sa grammar errors mo :)


Very good point.

You may also add to it(omit) that their parents may have some connections...(Especially that(omit)  when you add to the fact(omit - replace with "when you consider") that both Zild and Blaster fought for (in) the finals of the(omit)EB's Music Hero, I[/I] can't help but wonder why these two went all the way to the ultimate final showdown without any connection help at all)

You may reject to(omit) the idea that they are the savior, probably because of their pogi thing...

But I CAN SAY(omit - replace with "the reason I said" ) "I can accept them if they will be called the savior of the OPM in "today's" generation."

The reason for that is,...They have the "skill" and "talent"...

Yes they are pogi,.....pero kung kapogian lang ang naging dahilan ng pag sikat nila, makakapamura na talaga ako sa industriya ng musika sa Pilipinas...

Atleast, they are really good. These guys (as a band) can really play and make a(omit) good music to my ears, not someone like Daniel Padilla, or even Juan Karlos...

I seldom listen to any radio stations, but I heard their song (Mundo) for the first time when I rode a taxi on my way home...I thought, woah, these guys can play...didn't knew(replace with KNOW) their band name yet...

Then later I just forgot that song, until one of my church mate (replace with CHURCHMATES) played the guitar riff of that song and I said, wait a minute that sounds familiar, who's the artist? Then there you go...(there we go what?)

Searched it on youtube and yes, I was a little surprised at(replace with "with") how popular they are , but what was more shocking is how young they are but (add "nevertheless,")  playing a genre that a(omit) certain people who lived through the 70s, 80s, and 90s can certainly appreciate.

So I guess, I can accept it, if people would label them as the "savior" of the OPM. I think I would. (If people accepted, then you would what??)

If teens idolized them because of their kapogians, at least, they idolized pogis with real talents...not just some random pogis.




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« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2019, 06:33:42 PM »
See my reply to red lights. I can't repeat my self a lot. Time is limited.
wag ka magalit IVOS fan boy.  :lol:

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« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2019, 10:04:29 PM »
To sum it all up for the TS, in his own point of view, IV of Spades is on the top and he is shoving it in everyone's throat. With all due respect to that band, this thread is simply implying that "Wala ng mas magaling pa sa IV of Spades", tama ba?
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« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2019, 03:28:34 AM »
To sum it all up for the TS, in his own point of view, IV of Spades is on the top and he is shoving it in everyone's throat. With all due respect to that band, this thread is simply implying that "Wala ng mas magaling pa sa IV of Spades", tama ba?
take it or leave it kumbaga.  :lol: :lol:
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« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2019, 08:22:49 AM »

hindi kaya type ni TS si plaster silonga?
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« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2019, 09:36:20 AM »
i dont know. naba-bother talaga ako sa turtlenecks e.
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« Reply #41 on: April 11, 2019, 09:44:45 AM »
To sum it all up for the TS, in his own point of view, IV of Spades is on the top and he is shoving it in everyone's throat. With all due respect to that band, this thread is simply implying that "Wala ng mas magaling pa sa IV of Spades", tama ba?

to be fair, hindi naman daw sila yung pinakamagaling.
for him lang, he believes they are, and I quote,  "The OPM's Savior"
kumbaga, messiah na magliligtas sa nabubulok na opm.


nahiya ng solid yung ibang opm bands sa statement :D
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« Reply #42 on: April 11, 2019, 10:41:28 AM »
i dont know. naba-bother talaga ako sa turtlenecks e.

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« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2019, 02:59:00 PM »
Their music is nice... i like their music to be honest... pero to say that they are the best/savior of OPM, naaahhhh.... there are other OPM bands that i like more....
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« Reply #44 on: April 11, 2019, 04:16:33 PM »
Their music is nice... i like their music to be honest... pero to say that they are the best/savior of OPM, naaahhhh.... there are other OPM bands that i like more....


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« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2019, 04:27:07 PM »

aliiiiiing cynthia.....



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« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2019, 05:37:23 PM »
Hindi nalalayo to sa HIYAW logic eh.
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« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2019, 07:08:28 PM »

aliiiiiing cynthia.....

Pakuha nga ng kanin at munggo....



tingggg... ang mga salitaaaa...

this one hindi ko gets...hahaha
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« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2019, 07:25:29 AM »
Clap! Clap! Clap! sabi ni TS
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« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2019, 09:56:54 AM »
Pakuha nga ng kanin at munggo....

this one hindi ko gets...hahaha

kaya mo yaaaaan :D :D :D
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