Guitarists' view on Emo music

[keida]

no offense to those kids who think they're emo, but it really gets on my nerves whenever i see some kid that looks like this...

http://www.dtbmusic.com/gallery/emo%20kids.jpg


now, it's not that i'm getting @nal about the whole emo as a counterculture thing, but the whole emo thing started from hardcore punk in 1985 and is still a part of hardcore punk. i asked one of "those" kids about what they thought about it, they said, "pare, ang pagiging emo is emotional, emo music is music na may emotion!" and i was all, "wtf!? dude, there's no such thing as an emo culture, even if you trace it back to 1985 to 1994 and even as late as 1999 and 2003" and the only reaction i got was something like, "oo na, ang dami mo nang alam, yabang mo!" it's funny really, how insecure, image obsessed kids could latch on to a new trendy clutch so quickly. i mean, these kids don't even listen to real emo, all they listen to is stuff like Chiodos, Alesana, Dashboard Confessional, Typecast, Atreyu, Chicosci, Bring Me The Horizon, Drop Dead Gorgeous, Underoath, the Used and the likes. i dunno, it's not that i'm being elitist or something, but i'm just sick of how so many people pretend to know something they don't, and become so defensive if you try to share something you learned when you were in that position so long ago.

just in case people wanna know what emo is and have no idea of what it is prior to reading this post, lemme just give a short primer.

emo was a slightly derogatory term attached to the introspective approach of hardcore punk bands like Embrace and Rites of Spring who both came out in the Washington, DC scene in 1985. some 'zine referred to their introspectively expressive spin on hardcore as "emocore". ever since, the term sort of sideways stuck throughout emo's evolution.

here's a list of notable emo/screamo bands according to era/style.

Emocore(around 1985-1987 i think)
basically hardcore punk with parched singing and desperate sounding vocal delivery. the music itself was characterized by certain use of octave chords.

examples:

Rites Of Spring
Embrace
Husker Du

Emo (probably around 1987-1994)
the emo sound was built around the earlier emocore template that brought a more cathartic dimension to punk. this time, stripped down to pure unharnessed emotional delivery characterized by beautiful use of plucked buildups and cathartic, chaotic climaxes.

examples:

Indian Summer
Plunger
Julia
Moss Icon
Don Martin 3

Hardcore Emo (in the early 90s, i think)
to paraphrase Andy Radin, hardcore emo is to emo as hardcore is to hardcore punk. characterized by fast, blurry tempos and usually harsh screamed vocals.

examples:

Heroin
Angel Hair
Antioch Arrow
early Portraits of Past
Honeywell

Emo Violence
a joke term coined by a band called In/Humanity, probably first played by people who listened to powerviolence alongside either emo or hardcore emo.

examples:

Jenny Piccolo
In/Humanity
Palatka
Usurp Synapse

Screamo
this is debatable, but in my opinion, screamo itself is a blend of all the previous styles of emo, implementing traits from other genres of music such as indie-rock, post-rock, and to an extent, harsher types of music such as grindcore. it has become sort of a catchall for modern emo. it has reached worldwide popularity in different parts of the world particuarly in America and Europe. screamo bands from across the world usually have regional sounds associated with them.

examples of american screamo bands:

Saetia
Welcome The Plague Year
Neil Perry
You And I
Funeral Diner
Joshua Fit For Battle
Hassan I Sabbah
Cease Upon The Capitol
Yaphet Kotto

examples of italian screamo bands:

La Quiete
Raein
the Death Of Anna Karina

examples of french screamo bands:

Mihai Edrisch
Daitro
Gantz
Sed Non Satiata

examples of german screamo bands:

June Paik
Tristan Tzara
Louise Cyphre
Einermusstot

examples of scandanavian screamo bands:

Angora Static
Amalthea
Shikari
Marat
the Manhattan Skyline
Kaospilot

examples of malaysian screamo bands:

Kias Fansuri
Orbitcinta Benjamin
Killeur Calculateur
Daghlia

examples of japanese screamo bands:

Envy
Nervous Light Of Sunday
Nitro Mega Prayer
Dipleg

examples of philippine screamo:

Caitlyn Bailey
Capulette
Tigers Are Out, Bears Are In
Iola Morton
Means To No End

common characteristics in modern emo and screamo
in the 00's, more screamo bands took advantage of the buildup and cathartic climax element of emo and blended them with post-rock, bands like City Of ------ and Envy being perfect examples of this type of emo. another common type of screamo band is the more progressive type of emo characterized by complex structures and time changes, such as Circle Takes the Square. regional traits aside, it's also noted that Canadian bands from the 90s such as Union Of Uranus and One Eyed God Prophecy soundwise did a lot to influence screamo bands such as Orchid, Reversal Of Man, and the like. it's influence can still be seen in bands as recent as the Apoplexy Twist Orchestra or the Flying Worker.

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a little FAQ section
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Q: are Dashboard Confessional or My Chemical Romance emo?
A: no they are not, read the rest of the crap i posted, and you'll clearly see why

Q: but they are emotional Sad
A: so was my grandfater, but he isn't emo by a longshot.

Q: if they aren't emo, what are they then?
A: there are 134983721948 non-emo genres out there, figure that out yourself, sherlock. that's none of my concern.

Q: what do real emo kids dress like?
A: there's no such thing as an emo kid, the only emo kids are effects of gross mislabelling of bands via mainstream channels such as Spin Magazine and MTV.

Q: am i emo?
A: you are not.

Q: are you emo?
A: i wouldn't be caught dead in skinny jeans and scene hair, that's just dumb in my opinion.

Q: what are emo lyrics like?
A: contrary to popular belief, emo lyrics aren't usually about love or being misunderstood by the cool kids in school, rather, emo lyrics tend to be rather political, such with the case of bands like Ampere and Reversal Of Man.

Q: is there such a thing as emo-goth music?
A: there is no such thing, although Antioch Arrow actually did bring a little touch of goth aesthetic and goth musical flair to hardcore emo. but that's an isolated case, i guess.

Q: is there such a thing as emo-punk?
A: nope, punk rock came before hardcore punk, hardcore punk is a direct descendant of punk. emo is a direct descendant of hardcore punk, so it's impossible to label anything as emo-punk given that it's a generation apart in terms of chronological order. anything that has to do with real emo in terms of music is punk, but not everything that's punk has anything to do with emo.

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note:
the best way to understand emo is to actually give the bands a listen, so if anyone's remotely interested in learning what emo sounds like, it's best to open www.myspace.com and use the search music function with this guide or a site like fourfa.com or youdontknowemo.tk as reference.
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(written by my bandmate.)

well there you go.

now anyone remember san pablo city's on a day like today?
and the time when SPC unwillingly became the philippine's emo capital 
that was waaaayyyy back in the 90's

[Ground Zero]

yeah...it's so like boy abunda, 

So like Kris Aquino also... Oh my gosh, Josh!!!

[chromeknive]

Oist, Battle Gear. 

[markv]

Guitarists' view on Emo music

they are now the model ad for d'addario on guitar magazines

[noy69]

Ok naman ang Emo eh kayalang kung beginner na guitarist ka  tapos ito musical influence mo  parang hindi mag de develop ang mga skills mo as a guitarist unlike nung dati panahon ng 80's era mga glam rock, metal ,  halos lahat sila technical parang pag napanuod mo sila wow gusto ko maging gitarista , ..... 

[rainierito]

Guitarists' view on Emo music

at least they get more girls than just sitting infront of the pc whinning about thier music and style.

[progressive_pilipinas]

why is it that everyone thinks emo music is about whining? weird.   

Id justify ALL music in the world as emotional, screw those who kill themselves because of what they listen to.

I listen to EMO music, i even play some of it.

Almost everyone sounds so condescending to EMO musicians. Respect them. We make music because we ALL have emotions.

[chromeknive]

IMO, having emotions is different from being over-the-top emo.

also, i believe respect is earned. that being said, may respeto naman e. its just that too much of something is never a good thing.

[the_Nong]

guys, i grew up in the 70's, my height was the 80's, started being in the band in the 90's and again now..

we just have to accept the "sign of the times". what EMO is today is like our "NEW WAVE", "HARCORE" or "PUNK ROCK" way back in our time. only: IT HAS THE TWIST OF THE MODERN TIMES..

-parang noon uso bell bottoms/flare pants, pero high waisted noon, low wasted ngayon. so goes for skinny jeans, noon nga lang we call it strech jeans and high waisted din. uso din one sided noon like ngyaon, even eyleliners etc. retro shoes are back, except may halong pagka-modern na.. i hope you guys get it.. sayang miss ko na ang Bla-Bla na shoes, crayon, dayfull, bigman and Creepers ng Glenmore!! heheheh...

emo as based on the "emotional" content during the 80's:
"the hurting" album of Tears for Fears with songs of "mad world" & "pale shelter", take note of the outfit sa mga videos!! hhehehehe..
"somebody" of depeche mode.
"the smiths"
"lotus eaters"
"flock of segulls"
"china crisis"
"talk talk"
i can go on & on. kung nauso lang ang "emo" term noon, un na ang ginamit.

still, many people at that time de-hin gets ang new wave, pero some do. parang ganun lang ang emo ngayon. let's just take it as it is..
it is till music so why not accept it? we don't have to embrace it, it's just part of our musical history.

[the_Nong]

Friends:

Since the last episode of MYXPOSED about EMO, many requested to do more about it. sino pwede sa inyo ma-interview? to shed light on the REAL essence of EMO. sana mge EMO peeps talaga... para makita ng tao kung ano talaga ang emo: lifestyle, music, fashion etc..

pm me or text 09178258362.

[juwanfidle09]

e2 sabi ng mga METAL sa EMO last year! 



 

uy, ganyan dati buhok ko (yung may salamin) hehehe!!!

[killjom]

Coheed is progressive rock.

tama.. wag sanang mamisinterpret na emo sila.. listen to the technicalities of their songs.. on how claudio and travis play their guitar..

[spankyrigor]

i sort of like the music.

it's the whole attitude thing that i can't stand. and the fashion component of it.

[moying_only]

nd k emo kung wala k laslas s pulso.

[xid02]

IMO, ok the music is good, the fashion statement? forget it, bakit mo naman kailangan pa mag bihis ng ganun? para lang ma-notice na EMO ka na depressed ka,  look for a psychologist hehe, maganda mabibigay na apayo sa iyo nun, kung depressed ka it is not the right time to listen in this kind of music kasi lalo k lng magiging depresssed ma-stock ka depression mo... dun nlng titigil ang mundo mo..

back to the topic, marami EMO guitarist ang magagaling, thursday the used finch yan ung mga alam ko indi na din kasi ako nakikinig nayon nyan... nagiging complicated ung music kasi to dahil sa mga tao na POSER.. heheh


peace tayo

[nuno]

i sort of like the music.

it's the whole attitude thing that i can't stand. and the fashion component of it.

+1 

[blues2death]

it's just rock n roll.......nag-iiba lang ang itsura ng mga rockers ngayon.....glam, grunge, nu metal, hardcore.......

there are some distinct factors that make each rock genre different......but it's all good

if you don't like it, no one's forcing you to listen to it

disclaimer: i don't listen to emo but that doesnt mean i hate it........jail the pusher, save the user...

[Larukunai]

ayoko lng sa emo minsan eh puros porma nlng and the voice!!! THE VOICEEEEEEEE!!! parang ipis na natapakan...i guess it only goes to show na hindi ko talaga gusto ang emo,screamo or whatever that is...pero i respect the genre...music padin naman yun...but you won't catch me listening to it.

Peace tayo mga emo lovers

+1 well some emo songs are good though specially pang harana but the problem is their way of expressing music their like cheap copy of every genre, like the mowhawk na ginaya sa metal, talagang nakakainis sabi nga ibang forums ng ibang website their like cheap wanna be copies of goths, plus they act like FOOLS!

sa sobrang inis ko nga sa ugali nila I composed a song but the thing is na band ako sa ibang forums kaya hinde ko nalang siya ipopost dito

[the_Nong]

hehehe,
i can see history repeating itself..

[Ground Zero]

Napaka EMO naman ng discussions nyo...

[HellZBellZ]

AMBOT SA EMO!!!! daming nag sulpot na mga kagaguhan na genra! baka sunod may emo-thrash , emo-death or emo-black nyetardz!!!

[chromeknive]

@hellbellz - "genre".

@ground zero - "battle gear".

  peace!

[fretburner]

when one cannot discuss emo and NOT discuss fashion, that is very indicative that the music SUCKS ASS.

[markv]

EMO: why are you guys randomly picking us most of the time?

ROCKER: because it felt good

METALHEAD: because it felt good

JAZZER: because it felt good

EMO: ........... (slashed his throat)

[Mute]

EMO: why are you guys randomly picking us most of the time?

ROCKER: because it felt good

METALHEAD: because it felt good

JAZZER: because it felt good

EMO: ........... (slashed his throat)

Hahaha in the olden days Emo wasnt like this dati parang astig eh, they kept screaming and the hair wasnt like bangs-y.the hairstyle with the current emo bands is new wave and i think it started with tom delonge coz he was a big new wave fan,well i guess the kinds thought it was punk coz blink 182 was punk.oh well.